DUST Search - Ammunition Management

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:

Ill be brief and to the point here: on the current battlefield, the sheer number of heavies is leading to an indirect problem with ammunition management, as it takes 2-5x the amount of ammo to kill a Sentinel/Heavy as it does a medium or light frame.

For certain weapons, maximum ammunition that was already on the low side (looking at you specialist Shotguns) is becoming even more inaccessible.

So please, buff the maximum ammo capacity of all weapons, or, alternatively, increase the concentration of supply depots as well as the total HP so that they are both easier to access and can't be easily destroyed by a WP hungry tanker.

Thanks,

Gav

I see your point. But nanohives....

And having more Supply depos wouldn't work.Currently there is only one per map to control TANK ammo.

Tank ammo....

They just recall if they run out, is my understanding

Thats at least 1 minute without a tank :3

consider the time they need to move to a safe position,recall, wait for cooldown, call in another one.

Hey itssomething...

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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1550	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:43:00 - [1] - Quote Ill be brief and to the point here: on the current battlefield, the sheer number of heavies is leading to an indirect problem with ammunition management, as it takes 2-5x the amount of ammo to kill a Sentinel/Heavy as it does a medium or light frame. For certain weapons, maximum ammunition that was already on the low side (looking at you specialist Shotguns) is becoming even more inaccessible. So please, buff the maximum ammo capacity of all weapons, or, alternatively, increase the concentration of supply depots as well as the total HP so that they are both easier to access and can't be easily destroyed by a WP hungry tanker. Thanks, Gav "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 336	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:49:00 - [2] - Quote It's called ammo capacity skill. DUST 514 Forums. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villa- er, I mean panty weights and neckbeards.
castba Merc-0107 515	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:50:00 - [3] - Quote Hives?
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1551	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:51:00 - [4] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: It's called ammo capacity skill. Maxing it now, still don't have enough. Any other smart remarks? "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1551	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:53:00 - [5] - Quote castba wrote: Hives? While that would be nice, its unfeasible for all suits to carry them. I need fitting Op 5 on SMG and SG or CR and NK to fit a compact on my suits This is at Core/Engineering 5 and Electronics 4 Also, that only saves you 1-2 trips "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10665	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:56:00 - [6] - Quote I believe the Max. Ammo of all weapons should have been increased in correlation with the TTK changes, that way the amount of possible kills per capacity remains consistent. Though I believe the Ammunition skills need a buff as well, especially on "Launcher" weapons such as the Mass Driver. (+1 round per level means that even with about 1m SP spent you won't even an additional clip). And on that day, that very day, not a single Pilot had lived... -HAND
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1556	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:00:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: I believe the Max. Ammo of all weapons should have been increased in correlation with the TTK changes, that way the amount of possible kills per capacity remains consistent. Though I believe the Ammunition skills need a buff as well, especially on "Launcher" weapons such as the Mass Driver. (+1 round per level means that even with about 1m SP spent you won't even an additional clip). +1 and agreed "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5350	Posted - 2014.07.19 02:41:00 - [8] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Ill be brief and to the point here: on the current battlefield, the sheer number of heavies is leading to an indirect problem with ammunition management, as it takes 2-5x the amount of ammo to kill a Sentinel/Heavy as it does a medium or light frame. For certain weapons, maximum ammunition that was already on the low side (looking at you specialist Shotguns) is becoming even more inaccessible. So please, buff the maximum ammo capacity of all weapons, or, alternatively, increase the concentration of supply depots as well as the total HP so that they are both easier to access and can't be easily destroyed by a WP hungry tanker. Thanks, Gav I see your point. But nanohives.... And having more Supply depos wouldn't work.Currently there is only one per map to avoid control TANK ammo. Stealth Storm
Michael Arck 4895	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:19:00 - [9] - Quote Another situation where mercs aren't doing their job on the battlefield, you shouldn't even be worrying about that. There should be dispensed nanohives on ground. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Espartoi Orkz Clan 298	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:39:00 - [10] - Quote An ammunition module for the equipment slot but as always is asking too much. Shoot Smash Stomp Chop. Am a Giant Realistic Flying Tiger.

Fizzer94 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2977	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:49:00 - [11] - Quote Not all weapons need this tbh. My ScR has plenty. My Plasma Cannon would be awesome if it had more though. I always run out. My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon. Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1568	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:51:00 - [12] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Ill be brief and to the point here: on the current battlefield, the sheer number of heavies is leading to an indirect problem with ammunition management, as it takes 2-5x the amount of ammo to kill a Sentinel/Heavy as it does a medium or light frame. For certain weapons, maximum ammunition that was already on the low side (looking at you specialist Shotguns) is becoming even more inaccessible. So please, buff the maximum ammo capacity of all weapons, or, alternatively, increase the concentration of supply depots as well as the total HP so that they are both easier to access and can't be easily destroyed by a WP hungry tanker. Thanks, Gav I see your point. But nanohives.... And having more Supply depos wouldn't work.Currently there is only one per map to control TANK ammo. Tank ammo.... They just recall if they run out, is my understanding "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 338	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:53:00 - [13] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: It's called ammo capacity skill. Maxing it now, still don't have enough. Any other smart remarks? don't waste your ammo on me. your bullets will just deflect like nothing happened. i'm a ******* omnipotent God-like heavy. nerf me into the ground please oh wise overlord Eventually the Dust community is going to nerf itself into nonexistance. Please don't ruin heavies CCP.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1568	Posted - 2014.07.19 03:56:00 - [14] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: It's called ammo capacity skill. Maxing it now, still don't have enough. Any other smart remarks? don't waste your ammo on me. your bullets will just deflect like nothing happened. i'm a ******* omnipotent God-like heavy. nerf me into the ground please oh wise overlord So im guessing Gallente? "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5353	Posted - 2014.07.19 04:03:00 - [15] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Ill be brief and to the point here: on the current battlefield, the sheer number of heavies is leading to an indirect problem with ammunition management, as it takes 2-5x the amount of ammo to kill a Sentinel/Heavy as it does a medium or light frame. For certain weapons, maximum ammunition that was already on the low side (looking at you specialist Shotguns) is becoming even more inaccessible. So please, buff the maximum ammo capacity of all weapons, or, alternatively, increase the concentration of supply depots as well as the total HP so that they are both easier to access and can't be easily destroyed by a WP hungry tanker. Thanks, Gav I see your point. But nanohives.... And having more Supply depos wouldn't work.Currently there is only one per map to control TANK ammo. Tank ammo.... They just recall if they run out, is my understanding Thats at least 1 minute without a tank :3 consider the time they need to move to a safe position,recall, wait for cooldown, call in another one. Hey itssomething... Stealth Storm
Clone D Grundstein Automation 622	Posted - 2014.07.19 04:10:00 - [16] - Quote Yes! I posted an ammo cap buff request here: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168243 A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
Beastlina Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2014.07.19 04:24:00 - [17] - Quote I see your point but i'm sure this only applies to players with actual skill as i do not live long enough to run out of ammo 80% of the time. The struggle is real.
Meee One Algintal Core Gallente Federation 914	Posted - 2014.07.19 04:29:00 - [18] - Quote Beastlina wrote: I see your point but i'm sure this only applies to players with actual skill as i do not live long enough to run out of ammo 80% of the time. The struggle is real. +1
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2523	Posted - 2014.07.19 04:36:00 - [19] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Ill be brief and to the point here: on the current battlefield, the sheer number of heavies is leading to an indirect problem with ammunition management, as it takes 2-5x the amount of ammo to kill a Sentinel/Heavy as it does a medium or light frame. For certain weapons, maximum ammunition that was already on the low side (looking at you specialist Shotguns) is becoming even more inaccessible. So please, buff the maximum ammo capacity of all weapons, or, alternatively, increase the concentration of supply depots as well as the total HP so that they are both easier to access and can't be easily destroyed by a WP hungry tanker. Thanks, Gav I see your point. But nanohives.... And having more Supply depos wouldn't work.Currently there is only one per map to control TANK ammo. Tank ammo.... They just recall if they run out, is my understanding Thats at least 1 minute without a tank :3 consider the time they need to move to a safe position,recall, wait for cooldown, call in another one. Hey itssomething... Or you could call one in and then recall saves like half the time. Tanker/Logi 0 The number of 7ucks given
KING CHECKMATE Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 5357	Posted - 2014.07.19 04:38:00 - [20] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Or you could call one in and then recall saves like half the time. ITs still a bother to tankers. So i like it. Stealth Storm

Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2167	Posted - 2014.07.19 07:38:00 - [21] - Quote Don't miss as much "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 193	Posted - 2014.07.19 08:50:00 - [22] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: Or you could call one in and then recall saves like half the time. ITs still a bother to tankers. So i like it. But you know that its 10sec to change tank? Just drive around corner, call in tank, and recall the one you used. While youre recalling, new tank is dropping right next to you. Simple and easy. As to OP. Change skill so it adds 2-3more magazines. But ammunition is ok. You need more? Thats your problem, drop a hive or find some. Ps. Shootgun doesnt needs hives. With all ammo you can easly kill like 12+people (including heavies). -~-~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~-~-My CreoDron wont miss any of you
Meee One Algintal Core Gallente Federation 916	Posted - 2014.07.19 10:47:00 - [23] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Ill be brief and to the point here: on the current battlefield, the sheer number of heavies is leading to an indirect problem with ammunition management, as it takes 2-5x the amount of ammo to kill a Sentinel/Heavy as it does a medium or light frame. For certain weapons, maximum ammunition that was already on the low side (looking at you specialist Shotguns) is becoming even more inaccessible. So please, buff the maximum ammo capacity of all weapons, or, alternatively, increase the concentration of supply depots as well as the total HP so that they are both easier to access and can't be easily destroyed by a WP hungry tanker. Thanks, Gav Sounds like you need to go to business school because your management skills are terrible. But seriously,learn to run away. As a support based logistics i've learned this lesson well.
Dauth Jenkins Merc-0107 554	Posted - 2014.07.19 13:45:00 - [24] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: It's called ammo capacity skill. Maxing it now, still don't have enough. Any other smart remarks? Specialist shotguns tell you in the discription that you sacrifice amunition for the fitting bonus. -Sincerely --The Dual Swarm Commando
Forlorn Destrier Havok Dynasty 2723	Posted - 2014.07.19 13:49:00 - [25] - Quote No. I think the balance is about right. If you are using more ammo than you have frequently: 1) Change to a different weapon that better suits your play style 2) Squad with a Logi who has hvies 3) Carry you own hives 4) Look for a supply depot To me this is a non-issue. I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2712	Posted - 2014.07.19 13:49:00 - [26] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: It's called ammo capacity skill. Maxing it now, still don't have enough. Any other smart remarks? Yes: No.
Jack Boost Zarena Family 422	Posted - 2014.07.19 14:41:00 - [27] - Quote What is your K/D? EG: if arround 1... you need ammo for 1 kill .. no more If arround 3.. you need ammo for 3 kills... for AR is about 1 clip. Anyway... you skill up for decent longevity at battlefield... You have eq? - problem is solved... You are heavy? OOooo.... that is different story :) You must learn anyting about weapon, map, blueberies. I recomend for you even skill up at logi stuff... and make mini base ant map. I reconend for use breach wariants of weaponswith low rof but max dmg per bullet. I recomend for you remember when you see nano at map... and treasuse this place... You will need long trip for red zone. Kill any tank and swarmers because they just blow up depot for 50wp. Yes this hurts you. Anyway.. gl Not much time left...
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 649	Posted - 2014.07.19 18:21:00 - [28] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: It's called ammo capacity skill. and actually having someone y'know. be a logi? all my logi fits carry ishukone gauged hives (gal logi) as well as rep tool, scanner and uplinks. Rolling with the punches
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 585	Posted - 2014.07.19 19:25:00 - [29] - Quote While I'm finding it hard to be sensitive to a shotgun scouts needs, nanohives man. Or squad with a logi, or sacrifice part of your fit for better hives. Spawn in a logi suit and create mini ammo dumps in strategic spots for yourself. I know, I know: I don't wanna a, b, c, I WANNA run around with my shotgun all day without having to adjust my playing! In the words of....somebody somewhere... something hell, something something ice water. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3644	Posted - 2014.07.19 19:30:00 - [30] - Quote Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote: It's called ammo capacity skill. They need to lower the SP for that skill and the optimization skill. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire



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