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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
911
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Posted - 2014.07.18 09:35:00 -
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Assaults are mainly being ignored because scouts (and some logistics) can do their jobs better.
What if assaults and Lolmandos were the kings of small arms?
My idea?
-Reduce DPS from all light weapons and sidearms (except KN) by 50% (amount can change)
-Give assaults and commandos a 10% damage increase bonus per level to their racial weapons(total 50%,and an additional 10% for commandos aka their current bonus)
So a Lv5 Gal assault would do current damage with an AR,but anyone else would do 50% damage. (except commandos who would get an additional 10%)
But if a Gal assault equipped a RR he could only do 50%, even if he has Cal assault Lv5.
Thoughts?
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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
911
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Posted - 2014.07.18 10:03:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:so basically you're saying
why don't we take all the loyal Dust players, and try to stuff them into this tiny little box and the ones that don't fit will be left behind
i don't want any more radical changes that will demand full respecs again
Tiny box? Lolno more like defined roles.
(See logistics bonuses)
Scouts and logistics should never be the favored go-to suit for getting kills,assaults/commandos should.
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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
911
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Posted - 2014.07.18 10:07:00 -
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castba wrote:They would need a +20% per level to bring them up to current stats. Also, people **** and moan about heavies now, can you imagine if scout and logi light weapon damage was halved?
NO.
If Damage were reduced by 50%, they would only get a 50% bonus NOT 100%.
I'm trying to give them an advantageous edge,not the whole sword.
Also,screw scouts and slayer logis.
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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
914
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Posted - 2014.07.18 23:14:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:yeah.......so making assaults basically do double damage compared to everyone else? That's....excessive.
Or we can just buff them by 2% a level, give them weapon support skills, and decent HP regen bonuses and call it a day?
2% is the commando bonus,they have cpu/pg reduction.
I'm up far more regeneration as long as logistics gets more armor.
Fair is fair.
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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
914
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Posted - 2014.07.19 00:50:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Meee One wrote:Assaults are mainly being ignored because scouts (and some logistics) can do their jobs better.
What if assaults and Lolmandos were the kings of small arms?
My idea?
-Reduce DPS from all light weapons and sidearms (except KN) by 50% (amount can change)
-Give assaults and commandos a 10% damage increase bonus per level to their racial weapons(total 50%,and an additional 10% for commandos aka their current bonus)
So a Lv5 Gal assault would do current damage with an AR,but anyone else would do 50% damage. (except commandos who would get an additional 10%)
But if a Gal assault equipped a RR he could only do 50%, even if he has Cal assault Lv5.
Thoughts? 50% is a huge margin. Basically you're saying **** scouts and logis you guys shouldn't kill anything at all even though you are forced to use a weapon. If this is so I'd say nerf RE count by 2, nerf damage by 75% but give scouts a +15% to damage per level and +1 carried/active per level. Fair is fair
REs are equipment,logistics is the equipment master.
Scouts specialise in cloaks (hence the fitting reduction).
So LOLNO on scouts being better at using equipment than the master support class (logistics).
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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
914
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Posted - 2014.07.19 04:08:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Meee One wrote:
REs are equipment,logistics is the equipment master.
Scouts specialise in cloaks (hence the fitting reduction).
So LOLNO on scouts being better at using equipment than the master support class (logistics).
***** please, since when did a logi use REs better than a scout? RE's aren't support EQ therefore the master support class does not get a bonus to them.
Yes it does,logistics gets a fitting reduction to all equipment,even cloaks.
And REs fall under equipment.
And tbh scouts shouldn't have the ability to equip REs,yet they do.
"Use better" is a stupid comparison,lets look at which one specialises in equipment:
-Logistics
Can carry more:
-Logistics
Gets a fitting reduction:
-Logistics
What do scouts get?
-Intel bonuses
-Cloak fitting reduction
Which one is actually "better" with REs?
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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
914
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Posted - 2014.07.19 04:14:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Well I wholeheartedly disagree with the racial sidearm damage reduction. I was under the impression that most of the point of sidearms was having a smaller, weaker version of the other racial weapons to counterbalance the weaknesses of your primary weapon. Hence why I have a ScP with my HMG.
HMGs would be untouched.
ScP does insane damage anyway.
But i would consider at least lowering light weapon damage.
I'm getting tired of Cal scouts with basic RRs killing me in 4 shots from 100~m.
And Gal scouts with ScR.
And having my Mk.0 logistics suit killed in a single shot by an invisible enemy using a MLT shotgun 12m away. (often 600+ damage)
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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
914
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Posted - 2014.07.19 05:13:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Are you serious? Is this thread serious?
I'm having a hard time taking any of this seriously.
Nobody would use any other classes.
This is an FPS. In FPSs, the primary objective, above all others, is to kill. Even for Logis and Scouts. If only 2 classes can effectively kill, the others will never be used.
Aww fizzer,of course i'm serious.
CCP wants assaults used more and this would do it,while lolassault scouts and slayer logis would become extinct.
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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
916
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Posted - 2014.07.19 08:33:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Meee One wrote:
Yes it does,logistics gets a fitting reduction to all equipment,even cloaks.
And REs fall under equipment.
And tbh scouts shouldn't have the ability to equip REs,yet they do.
"Use better" is a stupid comparison,lets look at which one specialises in equipment:
-Logistics
Can carry more:
-Logistics
Gets a fitting reduction:
-Logistics
What do scouts get?
-Intel bonuses
-Cloak fitting reduction
Which one is actually "better" with REs?
Lol such a pitiful argument. "I get EQ bonus so I use RE's better" Scouts use RE's ten times better than Logis because we can run faster thus throw them farther and we have the best passive scanning thus we can use them from behind walls (look ma no eyes!) and the best you can come up with is a finger pointed at CPU/PG reduction. Meanwhile if a Logistic had no suit bonus whatsoever they wouldn't be able to use any EQ better than anything. Meanwhile a scout can use remote explosives better than any suit regardless of skill bonuses. And tbh scouts shouldn't have the ability to equip REs,yet they do.Hahahahahaha you're ideas never cease to amuse me.
Aww banjo you're so sweet. I mean bojo.
I knew you would come around to my way of seeing things.
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