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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.07.18 09:12:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Atiim wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:As must be very well known, the singularly least used module in all of the DUST 514 economy is the PG Upgrade. Even less than Myrofibril Stimulants? They are similarly terrible . We are trying to figure out a way to make those poor suckers useful as well...
I have been oblivious about PG upgrades being terrible. I have been using those on occasion (gonna calculate % of current fits soon) but especially during the slayer Caldari logi days - the abundance of lows to that suit enabled it to buff both it's PG and CPU.
Nowadays, some logi fits need PG upgrades in order to fit all the equipment.
Also, shield tanking fast mover needs PG upgrades as Red Cans (kincats) gulp a ton of PG.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.07.18 09:15:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote: How can they be of use in the current environment? Give way more PG, be high slot, cost no CPU? Feel free to brainstorm.
THAT is a big NO-NO. The free fitting cpu upgrade is a broken module and a freak amongst others.
There should always be a cost even though how minimal. The point is that there's no sacrifice in fitting complex cpu mod over basic. Only balancing thing is isk price, and isk balancing is the worst balancing.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.07.18 09:35:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:
Please speak your mind about it, I am particularly interested in players who actually use it, and for what purpose. What kind of fitting can be made better with a PG upgrade?
Here goes: (gallente) logis: - Shield tanked, 2xRedCanned (kincat), max uplink suit - Cloaked 2xRedCanned runner for escape links
Not much at the moment, actually... I too try to avoid 'wasting' a slot - but do accept it if I need that proto weapon or max equipment.
I recall previously max proxy mine suit needed one. Obsolete Caldari slayer logis I mentioned before. Any non-scout cloak user. Multiple uplink suits. Multiple Kin cat users.
And I state again, one big general type which needs PG upgrades is: Shield tanked fast moving slayer - though it's not at it's prime at current meta.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.07.18 09:43:00 -
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Stile451 wrote:Appia Vibbia wrote:A lot of the problem I see with the PG upgrade is the CPU cost. If I've got the CPU for the mod but not the PG I try and fit a PG upgrade but the cost on it usually means I no longer have the CPU to use it. This is my experience for the most part although I do use them on a few suits.
Well that's is a normal part of fitting tuning process. Never expect that to go away coz it shouldn't.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.07.18 09:49:00 -
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If player stacks multiple high level modules on one fit, it's likely that he will run out of one or the other: PG or CPU. That can be helped via PG/CPU upgrade module.
IN ESSENCE, PG/CPU UPGRADE MODULES CAN BE CONSIDERED AS A VOLUNTARY STACKING PENALTY.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.07.18 10:03:00 -
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My guess why Rattati is mapping (PG) upgrade usability is that as both mods are low slots, it means granting some suits more low slots makes then harder to plan to balance.
If a suit has abundant low slots - but has option not to armour tank - then it has access to enormous PG/CPU and therefore setting the said suits base PG/CPU is that much harder task.
People would enjoy Dust a lot more if they accepted the fact that EVERYTHING is subject to change
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