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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1742
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Posted - 2014.07.17 02:09:00 -
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Everyone wants balance and so do I and that is why the cloak must go, immediately. I am tired of being sucker punched every match, out strafed to the point I lost to a militia SmG as the Cal scout went left and right back and forth and due to poor hit detection , the scout having a quarter of my hit box was able to jump, glide back and forth to the point my HMG could not keep up. I tried to strafe and follow the target but I could not. It was damn near impossible. As soon as your about the to win they cloak and run faster than you can turn a corner.
The fact I go to hack an objective and nothing shows on my radar, so I begin to hack and of course a SG goes off or CR I turn to return fire and my weapon will not fire do to a glitch yet to be fixed. So I am standing for 2-3 seconds trying to survive as the Cal scout bounces all over the place. Or your heading to your destination and three scouts will decloak and begin to make your life miserable.
The fact a scout can appear out of nowhere, then proceed to whittle you down with a basic CR or militia SmG as you try and hit them is almost impossible. The fact there is not one negative to being a scout at all. They can tank more than an assault, run the same equipment as a Logi, and is faster and better at CQC than a heavy which still boggles the mind.
The scout had issues before the cloak but the cloak has ruined this game IMO. If it was removed then balance would be possible.
My question to CCP how do you defend against a target you cant see. Sure I can see what is front of me but how many times have you been ambushed by group of scouts that appeared out of nowhere.
Cloaks need to be removed or you have to give us a way of seeing them. If I have to run scout to kill a cloaked scout I will quit.
The cloak has been one of the most lopsided items placed in the game IMO and needs to be removed.
Closed Beta Vet and Heavy, so no I am not FOTM I am an Antique
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1742
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Posted - 2014.07.17 02:28:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:'' I am tired of being sucker punched every match, out strafed to the point I lost to a militia SmG as the Cal scout went left and right back and forth and due to poor hit detection , the scout having a quarter of my hit box was able to jump, glide back and forth to the point my HMG could not keep up. I tried to strafe and follow the target but I could not. It was damn near impossible. As soon as your about the to win they cloak and run faster than you can turn a corner.''
Sorry Mr.Calvin. Being Butthurt is not a good reason to remove something from a game.
Plus= Cloaks = More scouts = More fun for my HMG
Plus : Scouts are MEANT to play solo. They cannot move with a whole squad due to their location being revealed due to their squadmates precision. They are low HP solo players most of the time....
If you were hacking an objective...ALONE... means you were trying to do the scout's job. You deserve a SG/NK/ACR to the neck.
Go in a squad or at least 2 other friends, check for R/E, hack safely.
Its not being butthurt. Second one does hacking become a scout only roll. The cloak is OP and no matter how many come to the cloaks defense it will be until there is a way to counter it without the use of another scout.
Closed Beta Vet and Heavy, so no I am not FOTM I am an Antique
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1742
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Posted - 2014.07.17 02:43:00 -
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its not about seeing the scout it is the fact they do not show up on radar and is able to see your position and the way your facing. A flux should be able to prevent a cloak from working temporary and should cause a cool down before reuse.
Closed Beta Vet and Heavy, so no I am not FOTM I am an Antique
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1747
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Posted - 2014.07.17 13:06:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Atiim wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:' Go in a squad or at least 2 other friends I don't support the removal of Cloaks, but that's "Tanker's Logic". No its not.I can still be taken out by a single enemy infantry unit.: O Im just saying that since Calvin here assures its impossible to kill cloaked scouts.
No I can kill scouts all day, its the fact the cloak gives one class such a huge advantage over others. It needs removal or way needs to be implemented to prevent the cloak from working temporary or have a counter to there ability to hide on radar.
Closed Beta Vet and Heavy, so no I am not FOTM I am an Antique
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1747
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Posted - 2014.07.17 13:10:00 -
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Clone D wrote:calvin b wrote:The cloak has been one of the most lopsided items placed in the game IMO and needs to be removed. You are a closed beta vet so you know all about ewar. What is you reason behind not speccing into cal scout in order to get more TACNET info and achieve greater awareness?
I am proto cal. I specced into it first day. Problem was it became FOTM and that was when I left it in the closet. Second heavies are also going that way and so I started to skill into assaults. Today I turn proto in Cal Assault. I choose what I think will be a challenge, the scout was a bust and the heavy is well everyone is either going heavy or scout that is why I am choosing assault as my new toy.
Closed Beta Vet and Heavy, so no I am not FOTM I am an Antique
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1747
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Posted - 2014.07.17 13:14:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Clone D wrote:calvin b wrote:The cloak has been one of the most lopsided items placed in the game IMO and needs to be removed. You are a closed beta vet so you know all about ewar. What is you reason behind not speccing into cal scout in order to get more TACNET info and achieve greater awareness? God love him, Calvin just likes to complain. That's his MO, and this thread is simply one of many -- all with the same tone. I think it's kind of cute and often make fun of him. He rarely takes my bait any more. Calv, All jokes aside, I hope you're doing well.
I hope your doing well, second yes I am ball of anger that is why I like to run heavy it allows me to wade into Hell and kill as many as I can before I succumb to the dreaded frame rate drop. Just letting everyone know I do not like to lose and I am a tryhard.
Closed Beta Vet and Heavy, so no I am not FOTM I am an Antique
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1747
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Posted - 2014.07.17 13:21:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Lol. I love hearing players cry about something because they suck at killing it.
I have been a scout for 8 months. I maxed out Caldari day 1 since I always wanted a cal scout. Very recently I started specining into heavy/hmg because they are WAAAYY stronger than scouts.
I only have lvl 1 amarr/cal heavy suits and only lvl 4 hmg, and guess what...I can murder everything with a basic suit and mh-82 especially scouts. And the burst makes scouts my *****.
So why can I kill most scouts I come across as a very new heavy while long time heavies ***** and moan about scouts? Because I'm always thinking like a scout. I know how scouts operate, how they flank, how they hide, how they set traps and when they like to attack. And I am not blind as I can clearly see scouts shimmer, and with the hmg when you see a shimmer, point, click, +50.
So many heavies are stupid morons with zero situational awarness. Too many heavies have allowed their high hp suits and death dealing OP as fuk hmg to make up for thier lack of gun game.
So if you are using the highest hp suit in the game with the highest dps weapon in the game, and a scout with 1/3 your hp kills you there are two possibilities. The scout got the best of you, which is his role, or you suck balls with the best cqc weapon in the game.
Its not about situational awareness. It is the fact there is no counter to 3-4 scouts decloaking beside you and as soon as you start to lay waste they cloak and run off, or they toss RE into the air that glide and then land at your feet, or the fact they can jump over your head but I cant even jump onto a 6in curb.
When a cloaked scout decloaks besides you and then proceeds to climb his way into your inner bowels remember scouts are easier, as he puts round after round into as you fail to kill them, why? Because you forgot how to think like a scout
Closed Beta Vet and Heavy, so no I am not FOTM I am an Antique
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1765
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Posted - 2014.07.19 15:56:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Stop that already! That hate all around scouts. You think its that easy? Grab one and play vs normal players (read : not blueberrys). My caldari scout can be taken down by 1 charged vizia scr shoot.. no matter if your scout have 300-700ehp, scr melts every scout. No matter if its armor or shield. 15 shoots (without amarr bonus) is egnouth to take down shield + 500+ armor.
Now they are taking aways caldari precision. So now you will see what is tanking. Most cals will run 4x shield because there will be no sense to eqiup 2enchancers to scan 1x damp scout.
Hitbox is a problem? Then how bad are you? Because militia blueberry can spot and take out my cloaked scout from 60+ meters.
If you have problem with tanked scout, eqiup scanner, ScR/CR and kill them. Or can you only qq about how bad are you and cant kill everyone?
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Or the fact you suck as a scout. If you cant go 30+ kills running in a cal scout with a CR or SG you suck. The fact is it is too easy to use the scout and I cant wait for the scrubs hiding behind another FOTM to have to play on an even field and not hide behind another crutch. The cloak and built in scanners give the scout such a huge advantage over other suits its ridiculous. The fact your defending them says a lot about you. Also hit box is 1/4th of any other suit, so the question how terrible are you that you cant pull off more than 30 kills a game with such an easy crutch?
Closed Beta Vet and Retired Heavy. Assaults 07
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1769
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Posted - 2014.07.20 19:41:00 -
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This length of discussion shows how divided we are as a player base. I would like to see the radar eliminated for it brings false since of awareness.
It should look like this on top of the screen where the radar once was.
150/150 <------ Clone count
100/100 100/100 <-------- First number is shields and the second is Armor % for the MCC
That's it CCP lets make it simple and do away with radar and give me visual
Closed Beta Vet and Retired Heavy. Assaults 07
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