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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 03:34:00 -
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I'm sorry, Calvin, I'll try not to do it again. :) |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1215
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Posted - 2014.07.17 04:19:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:
When facing a scout there are a few things i can figure out instantly. Like if they are using a kb/mouse and if they have a clue.
KB/mouse scouts that know what they are doing are dammed near impossible to kill they are like bouncing flying cat ninjas! they are just all over the dam place.
Even with my HMG at nearly point blank i am lucky to even hit them never mind take their shields down.
scouts using a controller even if they are experienced are much easier to hit and their movements far less erratic. Most of the time i can turn them into a pile of ooze.
Huh? Are you serious?
How you can possibly tell who is using a MKB and who is using a DS3 by how they jump or how erratically they move is COMPLETELY beyond me, and I suspect you are simply projecting false logic to a problem of varied skill levels in your opponents.
The best five scouts I know all use DS3. In fact, I don't know of a A+ scout (or, frankly any top infantry slayer) that uses MKB. They might be out there -- and if anyone knows of one, please do correct me -- but I've not met them.
Have you used a MKB with Dust?
It's what I usually play with -- so please trust me when I tell you it's not MKB that you're seeing. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1216
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Posted - 2014.07.17 04:29:00 -
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Clone D wrote:calvin b wrote:The cloak has been one of the most lopsided items placed in the game IMO and needs to be removed. You are a closed beta vet so you know all about ewar. What is you reason behind not speccing into cal scout in order to get more TACNET info and achieve greater awareness?
God love him, Calvin just likes to complain. That's his MO, and this thread is simply one of many -- all with the same tone.
I think it's kind of cute and often make fun of him. 
He rarely takes my bait any more. 
Calv, All jokes aside, I hope you're doing well.  |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 21:55:00 -
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calvin b wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Clone D wrote:calvin b wrote:The cloak has been one of the most lopsided items placed in the game IMO and needs to be removed. You are a closed beta vet so you know all about ewar. What is you reason behind not speccing into cal scout in order to get more TACNET info and achieve greater awareness? God love him, Calvin just likes to complain. That's his MO, and this thread is simply one of many -- all with the same tone. I think it's kind of cute and often make fun of him. He rarely takes my bait any more. Calv, All jokes aside, I hope you're doing well. I hope your doing well, second yes I am ball of anger that is why I like to run heavy it allows me to wade into Hell and kill as many as I can before I succumb to the dreaded frame rate drop. Just letting everyone know I do not like to lose and I am a tryhard.
You and me, both, Calvin. The fact that you try hard and play to win is why I always liked you, even if I do give you a hard time when you rage on the forums. :) |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1220
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Posted - 2014.07.17 22:10:00 -
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p.s. as for the topic at hand, I think the "getting a shot off while cloaked" and the "cloaked and completely invisible" and the "recharge/reengage timer should be like vehicles" should all be implemented to tone down the clear advantage of cloaked scouts. Anyone who says this game is in a good place with scout/cloak as powerful as they are is not being objective, IMO. Now, we can, and should, debate what's the right fix, but to simply look past the issue is wrong, IMO. This is coming from someone who primarily plays Cal Scout with a cloak. |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1220
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Posted - 2014.07.17 22:14:00 -
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p.p.s. Calvin, you still running primarily solo? If so, I suspect that may be, at least in part, why you're taking a bit of a hard line on cloaks. I think you'll find that if you're in a good squad with a good gal logi or passive scanning cal scout, you won't die nearly as much to cloaked scouts. That doesn't mean there's no problem, because there is, but rather that you may be getting the short end of the stick, so to speak, because of running solo (if you're still doing that). |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1241
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Posted - 2014.07.24 05:13:00 -
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Thurak1 wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Thurak1 wrote:
When facing a scout there are a few things i can figure out instantly. Like if they are using a kb/mouse and if they have a clue.
KB/mouse scouts that know what they are doing are dammed near impossible to kill they are like bouncing flying cat ninjas! they are just all over the dam place.
Even with my HMG at nearly point blank i am lucky to even hit them never mind take their shields down.
scouts using a controller even if they are experienced are much easier to hit and their movements far less erratic. Most of the time i can turn them into a pile of ooze.
Huh? Are you serious? How you can possibly tell who is using a MKB and who is using a DS3 by how they jump or how erratically they move is COMPLETELY beyond me, and I suspect you are simply projecting false logic to a problem of varied skill levels in your opponents. The best five scouts I know all use DS3. In fact, I don't know of a A+ scout (or, frankly any top infantry slayer) that uses MKB. They might be out there -- and if anyone knows of one, please do correct me -- but I've not met them. Have you used a MKB with Dust? It's what I usually play with -- so please trust me when I tell you it's not MKB that you're seeing. its pretty simple really. With the ds3 there is a acceleration curve with movement. With the keyboard there isnt a curve. I am surprised you can't tell. Its far easier to move around in different directions with a kb than with a controller. Yes i play with a keyboard and mouse from time to time. I am still getting used to it and the menu controlls stink but otherwise it is far better for movement. Just because you havent meet such a player does not actually mean anything. Honestly though i think you are just trolling because i can't believe anyone thinks that something with an acceleration curve is better than something with 0 curve.
I'm not trolling, I've tested it. Extensively. It is only simple in your mind. There is virtually no difference in "acceleration curve" between MKB and DS3, and to the contrary, there is input lag with MKB and a lack of AA that make it much harder to play/slay with. Movement has virtually no affect on the game -- and circle strafing is far easier with a DS3.
Let me ask you a direct question, since you use both: Which do you do better with? |
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