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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 00:16:00 -
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I am requesting this for a third time CCP Rattati, I am also well aware this will probably require a Clientside update, but at some point this has to be done.
I as a player am being bled right out of this game because its core content is not present.
Please
Amarr/Khanid HAV (GoldeN Caldari Hull with Armour focus)
80GJ Heavy Pulse Laser ( Blaster Turret with EM and damage model proposed from Sisi as well as Green rounds)
Republic Minmatar HAV (Gallente Hull with Armour Focus)
220mm Heavy Artillery (Railgun with Anti Armour focus and Explosive Damage)
40mm Auto Canon (Small Blaster Turret with Projectile)
20GJ Scrambler Lances (Small Rails with Anti Shield damage)
Please dammit I've been begging for Amarr and Min vehicle content for 11 goddamn months now. I don't understand why this is not a Dust Side Focus.
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 00:33:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Wont happend like ever.
Not asking you.
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 01:13:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:The frames would work better the other way around. Amarr tend to be more rounded (like church arches) and Minmatar are more angular (because their equipment is a trash heap).
You see this is where I disagree. I am thinking of this from more of a lore based perspective. Since they are place holder models they need to looks like their own tech.
As such I am thinking of it more from a Khanid Innovations Caldari link perspective since the Caldari and Amarr work closely together to produce tech just like the Federation as part of its financial support for the MInmatar would send the defective Madrugar and Soma off to the Republic for repurposing.
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 01:14:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:What makes HAVs a priority over LAVs and Dropships?
Sucks but this totally isn't going to happen, the sooner you accept it and move on, the happier you'll be.
To be fair I am not qualified to make comments on the LAV or ADS the point still stands though and I am willing to take suggestions.
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 19:44:00 -
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sabre prime wrote:True Adamance wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Wont happend like ever. Not asking you. Place holders won't happen ever. Considering the assets for the genuine Amarr and Minmatar tanks have probably been generated and are sitting around on a hard disk somewhere, what's the point? It should all appear in Legion on day one, but who knows.
Then where are these assets? Why can't we see concept art for them? 4 times over the past 11 months I have petitioned CCP for even the rough sketches of these bloody things!
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 20:04:00 -
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Forever ETC wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Honestly from the way slots are done and compared to dropsuits, what we currently have are the Amarr (2 Highs, 3 Lows) and the Minmatar (3 Highs, 2 Low). I think the idea of bringing in Type-II variants of the existing vehicles is a great idea. Type-II dropsuits were used in the Beta to replicate racial dropsuits because the art assets were not ready, and I think the same principle is applicable here.
Using HAVs as an example
Gunnlogi 3 High 2 Low (Minmatar)
Gunnlogi Type-II 4 High 1 Low (Caldari)
Madrugar 2 High 3 Low (Amarr)
Madrugar Type-II 1 High 4 Low (Gallente) Amarr are Armor Tankers so it should be 1H 4L, and Gallente 2H 3L.
Pretty much ForeverETC....but I don't see what we can have both Gal and Amarr can't have 1H 4 L
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 20:17:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Forever ETC wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Honestly from the way slots are done and compared to dropsuits, what we currently have are the Amarr (2 Highs, 3 Lows) and the Minmatar (3 Highs, 2 Low). I think the idea of bringing in Type-II variants of the existing vehicles is a great idea. Type-II dropsuits were used in the Beta to replicate racial dropsuits because the art assets were not ready, and I think the same principle is applicable here.
Using HAVs as an example
Gunnlogi 3 High 2 Low (Minmatar)
Gunnlogi Type-II 4 High 1 Low (Caldari)
Madrugar 2 High 3 Low (Amarr)
Madrugar Type-II 1 High 4 Low (Gallente) Amarr are Armor Tankers so it should be 1H 4L, and Gallente 2H 3L. Yet Amarr Sentinels have 2/3 and Gallente have 1/4? Not for long, they are fixing it to be more in line with EVE. Hotfix Charlie is proposing Amarr Sentinel have 1/4 and Gallente Sentinel have 2/3 *shrugs* fair enough, as long as it's consistent that's what I care about. regardless, I think its safe to say there is a demand for a 4/1 and a 1/4 variant of HAVs, and similar variants for the other vehicles.
Pffffff its not about slot lay outs dude. I could care less about slots.
It's about damn time for racial parity. 18 months I've been playing this game, 2+ years its been in beta...... when will CCP develop the damn art assets for this core content?
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 20:25:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:True Adamance wrote:
Pffffff its not about slot lay outs dude. I could care less about slots.
It's about damn time for racial parity. 18 months I've been playing this game, 2+ years its been in beta...... when will CCP develop the damn art assets for this core content?
Well obviously the aesthetics are a bit more important to you than they are to me in that regard, but to each his own. I think making pseudo racial variants without any change in gameplay for those variants is shortsighted, but that's just my personal opinion. I mean if they had released all the new heavies and they had the same slots and stats as the Amarr Heavy, everyone would have said "-___- really? We waited for a reskin?"
We cannot begin to balance HAV and other vehicles without the racial turrets and hulls, or in this case place holders.
I'm all for having CCP introduce the proper variants...but I lost faith in them having the capacity to do that a long time ago...... and I'm freaking Amarrian to the core....I have Faith in everything!
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 21:03:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:Im not really sure what the paint job has to do with balance but ok...
To act as a place holder for the racial vehicles. Even as place holders they should still give the impression of being tied to a specific racial group. If updating the game for these requires a client side fix I see no reason why CCP could and should not reskin them.
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 21:32:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:Im not really sure what the paint job has to do with balance but ok... To act as a place holder for the racial vehicles. Even as place holders they should still give the impression of being tied to a specific racial group. If updating the game for these requires a client side fix I see no reason why CCP could and should not reskin them. Right but you make it sound like you wouldn't change the stats or slot layout and just keep them the same as the existing ones?
No we would need the alterations made to test the varied playstyles of the vehicles..... that's half the point of placeholders.
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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