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pegasis prime
PROTO WOLVES
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:05:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Not Jason Pearson wrote:Glass Bowtie wrote:Lol, your bragging about the academy. Nothing more needs to be said. Lol, the children really have taken over since most of us vets left after ff14. Keep practicing, maybe some day you will impress somebody with your ability to not crouch in the academy.
I like how you are so relevant your go to defense is to reference your KC, screams trainee/weak link.
Keep making alts and playing in the academy, sounds like thats more your speed. Those battles with the big boys are really hard arent they? Oh dear, so the "kill count reference" is not an actual kill count reference, sorry to disappoint you, if I wanted to try and sound impressive I'd tell you I am better than ReG, so yeah, and in the spirit of education, this is what I was referring to.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15PikMost of us vets, are still here, but are banned, and being the creative soul that I am, I dislike being banned.. I still haven't gotten banned yet.
fuckherrightinthepusy
Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012.
I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
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Glass Bowtie
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:12:00 -
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Yea I didnt get banned until last week when I bashed CCP Rattphooee with one of my remaining alts. The reasons for the ban seemed to fall in line with what the op of this thread is, oh well.
NJP, I guess we are done for now? You seemed so eager to point out the disparity of likes between your main and my dead main. Apparently a large amount of likes doesn't keep you from talking yourself into a corner, or maintaining a single line of thought for more than 3 minutes. Looks like your mom should have focused on treating your ADD, not telling you that you can kiss boys if you want (totally cool if thats what you are into). Oh well, im sure that in true "forum warrior" style, you'll show back up later in the night when you think im not around to get the last word in. Guess we'll find out soon enough. |
Baal Omniscient
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1956
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:34:00 -
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Not Jason Pearson wrote:I can.. post? Oh ****.
Hai guys.
Actually, I'd like to mention that Academy is adorable, especially the guys crouching and walking around in crouch, A for effort, little cuties.
+1 for the alt name, good to hear from ya Jason
Cross Atu for CPM1
Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
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Not Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:34:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:
I still haven't gotten banned yet.
Going to get you banned for Missile abuse kthx.
@Glass Bowtie, apologies, it's a new account, I can only post every 5 minutes until 2 days have passed. And I had to clear my ******* cache because bungie kept linking my account to my alt PSN, got into the Destiny Beta cos DUST guys are wonderful. I hope you are around, just bump it if you come back later. I mean if I can be a tanker and argue with Atiim through dozens of threads, I doubt you're going to scare me off <3
I'm not flip flopping my dear, Newbies are adorable, Academy fights are dull, crouch walkers amuse me. Does that clear it up?
Look guy, MY MOMS WERE COOL, don't be upset because your parents never said that you were special in whispered voices.
It's just amusing how quickly you got.. would the word be angered here? Because it seems like there's a hint of anger here, I mean, what with the subtle insults and such, you just seem mad.. I apologize if I've offended you and your crouch walking ways, I truly am, I won't knock you for it, it's adorable but I mean, you just go out there and do your best darlin'.
As for the qsync comment, That is a great idea, my KDR is going to be epic.
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Glass Bowtie
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:42:00 -
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Not Jason Pearson wrote:Glass Bowtie wrote:People are still going to the academy in an attempt to feel relivant? Thats adorable. Dust must be improving by leaps and bounds day by day. You know, cause people still like to hide in the academy......
Would you care to brag about your kill count from said academy matches? Im pretty sure people will be impressed..... My kill count? over 9000. Ooft, I like the hostility, but from a non factor such as yourself It feels diminished in some way, I don't need to try and stay relevant, because I am. This post was more about the fact I finally made another character to post on, a sort of hello to all the forum warriors I enjoy speaking to here, and less about murdering academy scrubs. Educate yourself, scrublet.
Lol, good, your back. Here is post #3, your very first response to my very first post. Whos mad again? You were gone for a good bit more than 5 minutes. Go ahead and read the first 2 words of my post like youve been doing, clean up your cache again, then come on back and flat out deny that you keep shooting yourself in the foot.
Not trying to chase you off, your doing all my work for me ;)
Oh btw, good stuff with the voices in head thing, makes you seem really edgy and cool. (<----woops, looks like im guilty of reading your posts too fast lol, you can disregard that sentence). |
Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:51:00 -
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Not Jason Pearson wrote:Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Kdr matchmaking fixes this. Well, in general, I'd agree, but when it comes to alts and academy, there are players who will create alts just to try and get a 100+ KDR and then never log in again, they still end up in a academy fight with low kdr players, at least the first battle.
Nothing's perfect, but it would sure go a long way, leaving only the PSYCHOTICALLY insecure few to ply this tactic.
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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Not Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:54:00 -
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Glass Bowtie wrote:Not Jason Pearson wrote:Glass Bowtie wrote:People are still going to the academy in an attempt to feel relivant? Thats adorable. Dust must be improving by leaps and bounds day by day. You know, cause people still like to hide in the academy......
Would you care to brag about your kill count from said academy matches? Im pretty sure people will be impressed..... My kill count? over 9000. Ooft, I like the hostility, but from a non factor such as yourself It feels diminished in some way, I don't need to try and stay relevant, because I am. This post was more about the fact I finally made another character to post on, a sort of hello to all the forum warriors I enjoy speaking to here, and less about murdering academy scrubs. Educate yourself, scrublet. Lol, good, your back. Here is post #3, your very first response to my very first post. Whos mad again? You were gone for a good bit more than 5 minutes. Go ahead and read the first 2 words of my post like youve been doing, clean up your cache again, then come on back and flat out deny that you keep shooting yourself in the foot. Not trying to chase you off, your doing all my work for me ;) Oh btw, good stuff with the voices in head thing, makes you seem really edgy and cool. (<----woops, looks like im guilty of reading your posts too fast lol, you can disregard that sentence).
I feel we're both reading each other's posts in a very different way to how we are trying to display, I'm currently imagining an overexcited kid trying to get a one up on someone, and perhaps you're imagining the same, however read my slowly, calmly and with a hint of amusement in mind and that's pretty much how I'm replying, which I may be wrong to assume, but is probably what you're also intending to get across.
Aye it was longer than 5 minutes, I suppose it's no excuse, I'll give you a heads up now then, I fully intend to go shoot things on Jason Pearson (my main), in a regular match, you know, to kill scrubs and boost my KDR, because that's what I do. I also fully intend to reply to people in my other thread talking about optimal ranges, so It's quite possible I will post slower than I should. But don't worry, I always get around to my fans. :P
Oh and I am edgy and cool, my dead sister in my head tells me so (****, another TV reference, just another heads up.)
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Glass Bowtie
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:56:00 -
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Not Jason Pearson wrote:
It's just amusing how quickly you got.. would the word be angered here? Because it seems like there's a hint of anger here, I mean, what with the subtle insults and such, you just seem mad.. I apologize if I've offended you and your crouch walking ways, I truly am, I won't knock you for it, it's adorable but I mean, you just go out there and do your best darlin'.
You have a strange obssesion with crouching down.....i'll let the community form their own conlusions on that one sir........errr ma'am? Not really sure anymore. You say your not from the US, but your over use of "darlin" makes me feel like im talking to an old lady from Alabama. Your english is great, sentence structure good. Canadian? Havent seen any Aussie or England slang. You definitely need work on information retention.
**ahhh, theres an "aye", Scotland?** |
Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:57:00 -
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Dam this glass bowtie guy is angry. Hey kid, let it go. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:57:00 -
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Not Jason Pearson wrote:Glass Bowtie wrote:People are still going to the academy in an attempt to feel relivant? Thats adorable. Dust must be improving by leaps and bounds day by day. You know, cause people still like to hide in the academy......
Would you care to brag about your kill count from said academy matches? Im pretty sure people will be impressed..... My kill count? over 9000. Ooft, I like the hostility, but from a non factor such as yourself It feels diminished in some way, I don't need to try and stay relevant, because I am. This post was more about the fact I finally made another character to post on, a sort of hello to all the forum warriors I enjoy speaking to here, and less about murdering academy scrubs. Educate yourself, scrublet.
You are not Jason Pearson..... the real Jason has swag.....the real Jason does not say things like "scrublet or relevant" unless he is arguing with me or Lorhak.
You cannot not be Jason Pearson I shall not stand for your lies!
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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Glass Bowtie
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:02:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Dam this glass bowtie guy is angry. Hey kid, let it go.
Lol, Mikey Ducati. Not sure there is anyone here on the forums that could lower the status of your name anymore than you have already done. Not interested in arguing with you, sorry.
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Not Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:03:00 -
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Glass Bowtie wrote:
You have a strange obssesion with crouching down.....i'll let the community form their own conlusions on that one sir........errr ma'am? Not really sure anymore. You say your not from the US, but your over use of "darlin" makes me feel like im talking to an old lady from Alabama. Your english is great, sentence structure good. Canadian? Havent seen any Aussie or England slang. You definitely need work on information retention.
You know what, I will come from this thread a little better off, because I rarely get complimented on my sentence structure and ability to speak English, thanks. I am actually Welsh, you know, Wales? The little country everyone assumes in just another part of England. I could be more like "yaw bruv hu da fuk u think ur talking 2 m8, ur a proper mug yu get me fam?" if you'd prefer, but honestly things such as "Darlin'" is just how I actually talk.
I think it comes from a games I've played previously, If you've ever played RP servers or roleplay games, I'm thinking things like SA-MP and FoM, then crouchwalking is usually done by RPers to pretend they're being "tactical", I guess it just takes me back to those games.
True Adamance wrote:
You are not Jason Pearson..... the real Jason has swag.....the real Jason does not say things like "scrublet or relevant" unless he is arguing with me or Lorhak.
You cannot not be Jason Pearson I shall not stand for your lies!
Listen here you little ****, where the **** have you been and have you even bothered adding me on PSN? WE WERE WORRIED!
Not King of the Forums
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Zelda Harkinian
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:07:00 -
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Not Jason Pearson wrote:Glass Bowtie wrote:
You have a strange obssesion with crouching down.....i'll let the community form their own conlusions on that one sir........errr ma'am? Not really sure anymore. You say your not from the US, but your over use of "darlin" makes me feel like im talking to an old lady from Alabama. Your english is great, sentence structure good. Canadian? Havent seen any Aussie or England slang. You definitely need work on information retention.
You know what, I will come from this thread a little better off, because I rarely get complimented on my sentence structure and ability to speak English, thanks. I am actually Welsh, you know, Wales? The little country everyone assumes in just another part of England. I could be more like "yaw bruv hu da fuk u think ur talking 2 m8, ur a proper mug yu get me fam?" if you'd prefer, but honestly things such as "Darlin'" is just how I actually talk. I think it comes from a games I've played previously, If you've ever played RP servers or roleplay games, I'm thinking things like SA-MP and FoM, then crouchwalking is usually done by RPers to pretend they're being "tactical", I guess it just takes me back to those games.
well, in Halo if you crouch/ crouch walk you can get under a player's radar and sneak around like that. I imagine, since Halo is the other HUUGE sci-fi fps game, many new players come into dust thinking it will play just like Halo.
Is it adorable? yes. is it effective? not at all, unless you're walking behind cover or around a hill. but they don't know that because there is no tutorial saying what can and what can't get you under the radar. |
Glass Bowtie
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:08:00 -
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Fair enough. While I have heard of Wales, as you said I assumed it was a part of England. Learn something new everyday I suppose. Right or wrong, i'm sure you had to expect at least a little flak for your op, no? |
Zelda Harkinian
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:11:00 -
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Not Jason Pearson wrote:I can.. post? Oh ****.
Hai guys.
Actually, I'd like to mention that Academy is adorable, especially the guys crouching and walking around in crouch, A for effort, little cuties.
This does not seem like anything remotely asking for flak. (o_O ) but hey, it's the forums so I guess you must be prepared for someone to find something they don't like.
*edit- heck, someone may find something not to like with THIS post too. better do something to show I don't want to argue...
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Not Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:13:00 -
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Zelda Harkinian wrote:
well, in Halo if you crouch/ crouch walk you can get under a player's radar and sneak around like that. I imagine, since Halo is the other HUUGE sci-fi fps game, many new players come into dust thinking it will play just like Halo.
Is it adorable? yes. is it effective? not at all, unless you're walking behind cover or around a hill. but they don't know that because there is no tutorial saying what can and what can't get you under the radar.
Now that makes a little more sense, yeah, going back to starting out, I heard something about sprinting would make you show up on the map, so I didn't sprint anywhere, just jogged along trying to "not get caught". I guess it comes down to what we've played, I never played personally but those I introduced to DUST say "This is similar to Halo but for playstation"..
Glass Bowtie wrote:Fair enough. While I have heard of Wales, as you said I assumed it was a part of England. Learn something new everyday I suppose. Right or wrong, i'm sure you had to expect at least a little flak for your op, no?
Actually I assumed I'd get more **** from regulars about being back and the fact I've been banned like 3-4 times and only now decided to get myself an alt. ^_^
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
339
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:14:00 -
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Dude, you're a child. Only children argue for pages on end. And for what, really? When you become a man, maybe you will realize that what other people think of you doesnt matter. I give a **** what these people think of me here. Internet tough guys are for chumps and punks.
Now you may reply, but this is the last thing I say to a snot nosed kid who never paid his own weight. Put some testosterone in your system boy.
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Glass Bowtie
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:20:00 -
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Not Jason Pearson wrote:Zelda Harkinian wrote:
well, in Halo if you crouch/ crouch walk you can get under a player's radar and sneak around like that. I imagine, since Halo is the other HUUGE sci-fi fps game, many new players come into dust thinking it will play just like Halo.
Is it adorable? yes. is it effective? not at all, unless you're walking behind cover or around a hill. but they don't know that because there is no tutorial saying what can and what can't get you under the radar.
Now that makes a little more sense, yeah, going back to starting out, I heard something about sprinting would make you show up on the map, so I didn't sprint anywhere, just jogged along trying to "not get caught". I guess it comes down to what we've played, I never played personally but those I introduced to DUST say "This is similar to Halo but for playstation".. Glass Bowtie wrote:Fair enough. While I have heard of Wales, as you said I assumed it was a part of England. Learn something new everyday I suppose. Right or wrong, i'm sure you had to expect at least a little flak for your op, no? Actually I assumed I'd get more **** from regulars about being back and the fact I've been banned like 3-4 times and only now decided to get myself an alt. ^_^
Lol yeah used to be the simple mention of the academy started at sh*t storm about sp graduation requirments and vets basically living in the academy. To this day I see no purpose for the academy, of course the game will forever be frozen in time so I guess it doesnt matter. What is the graduation requirment at these days, out of curiousity? |
Zelda Harkinian
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
111
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:29:00 -
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well, the academy is there to create an environment for new players that is a bit more forgiving then the current environment, and the truth is, it is working. Because everyone starts off with such low sp, you are guaranteed that the vast majority of players are running militia or mostly militia. Sure, you'll get 2 or 3 vets playing in BA, but even they have to deal with the low sp, so it's not nearly as bad as having to face a squad of proto players.
Because I try to be careful with not upsetting the beginning experience I have only received 1 hate mail my entire dust career. I was trying to test to see if the increased rate-of-fire of the tactical sniper rifle was better or if I should just go for the increased damage-per-shot of the higher tiered sniper rifles. Someone accused me of hacking because I had something that wasn't militia. (o_O ) said I would get banned.
But anyways, you do NOT want me on your team in Battle Academy. besides testing, I will do absolutely nothing to help my team win. lol.
and you get out of BA if you accumulate a lifetime total of 2,000 war points. |
Not Jason Pearson
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:30:00 -
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Glass Bowtie wrote:
Lol yeah used to be the simple mention of the academy started at sh*t storm about sp graduation requirments and vets basically living in the academy. To this day I see no purpose for the academy, of course the game will forever be frozen in time so I guess it doesnt matter. What is the graduation requirment at these days, out of curiousity?
Good question, I think it's 2500 WP. It's a bad system, because not only does it throw people out into the big bad universe almost immediately, but if the WP threshold is increased, then you'll get people who intend to just pad their KDR for a while. Never understood why CCP never prioritized an in depth tutorial with NPC opponents to take on, they wouldn't even have to be that good.
If Legion ends up with the same setup there's probably no hope, it needs to cover so many things:
- Basic Infantry Gameplay, fighting single enemies and learning the roles through usage
- Basic Vehicle Gameplay, Tanks fights, dropship piloting, etc.
- Interactive fitting tutorial
- Optional Market and Social tutorial
Not only this, but KDR and WPL needs to factor into matchmaking, If you're running 0/10 every game with a WPL of like 5, then you need to be matched up with people similar, not someone who's got a 10 KDR with a 1000 WPL
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Glass Bowtie
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:46:00 -
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Yea I think NPC academy would be the way to go. Even with no sp and militia gear, simple map knowledge is such a huge factor. As a vet, you can glance at the overhead map and damn near predict the ebb and flow of battle. Before I switched from assault to logi I ran some academy matches to learn the ropes of effective drop uplinking, back when they gave you those free uplinks for completing whatever the training goals were, and with few to no vets on the other team battles could be easily won with uplinks alone. I remember when I started playing the grad requirment was 400wp. I had read on the forums how tough the transition was and was a bit nervous, cause I thought the academy was hard enough as it was. Then a week into playing I got a better grasp on what all was going on and realized I had been out of the academy for 6 days lol. Not that Dust was easy, I was just thinking "man, if the academy is this tough, the real game must be hell" lol.
Best bet would seem to be just give people a stress free place to try out all the buttons, some weapons, maybe some scenarios with an NPC squad, vehicle basics, and thats it. Its really hard to train people for all the wacky sh*t regulars and vets can pull off in Dust, might as well throw them to the wolves. I feel you learn a lot faster if you arent made to feel somewhat safe. |
Patrick57
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:52:00 -
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I like how some random guy comes into this thread and accuses the OP of being bad, even though his post had nothing to do with stomping academy noobs.
Dust forums at their best. 
The original King ThunderBolt hate video receiver. XD
TFR
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Glass Bowtie
Kirkinen Risk Control
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Posted - 2014.07.16 22:18:00 -
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Who, me? |
Leeroy Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.07.16 23:01:00 -
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Glass Bowtie wrote:Who, me?
lel
congrats on taking srs post srsly. you are gud at intrwebs.
ANYWAY.
OP IS A N00b
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
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Glass Bowtie
Kirkinen Risk Control
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Posted - 2014.07.16 23:04:00 -
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??
Over the span of 2 small posts I am now completely lost. |
Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.07.16 23:40:00 -
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Glass Bowtie wrote:What, you know who I am? If you were indeed refering to me thats good, because thats 2 people in this thread who know i'm DunkMujunk.
Who? |
Leeroy Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.07.16 23:50:00 -
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Glass Bowtie wrote:??
Over the span of 2 small posts I am now completely lost.
And nothing of value etc etc.
Congratulations on having such a butthurt response. Probably one of the most entertaining exchanges I have ever seen on these forums.
It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart...
CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2014.07.16 23:53:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:Kdr matchmaking fixes this.
Suddenly nobody can find many logies....
WP per Death would be a bit better, though supposedly the current system uses W/L ratios
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Glass Bowtie
Kirkinen Risk Control
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.17 00:10:00 -
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Leeroy Gannarsein wrote:Glass Bowtie wrote:??
Over the span of 2 small posts I am now completely lost. And nothing of value etc etc. Congratulations on having such a butthurt response. Probably one of the most entertaining exchanges I have ever seen on these forums.
Ok, so here is where my confusion comes in, not only has the dispute between me and NJP been resolved between the 2 of us (your a few hours late at least), but I am not the OP. Go ahead and re-read from the beginning.
Lol, wow. You seem pretty fired up, you have nothing to do with the convo, you come out swinging, and you completely miss the target on all your assumptions. Which one of my posts hurt your feelings? |
Glass Bowtie
Kirkinen Risk Control
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Posted - 2014.07.17 00:12:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Glass Bowtie wrote:What, you know who I am? If you were indeed refering to me thats good, because thats 2 people in this thread who know i'm DunkMujunk. Who?
You know all those nights you heard your mom grunting and groaning in her bedroom while your dad was away on a business trip? Well, i'm not quite sure how to tell you this but......... |
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