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Glass Bowtie wrote:

Anarchide wrote:

The standard Chess game doesn't have any new content or updates, but it still have a playerbase!

And of course thats why you play chess instead of decent video games. Confused as to why you are here.

True, it has been a common them among these forums that as new games come out, they signal the death of Dust. While this may not be completely true, each new wave of new games that comes out sees a mass exodus of Dust veterans, as well as a drop in quality of Dust in general. Don't believe me? Dust was in a way better place when GTA was suppose to kill it. GTA didn't kill it of course, but Dust in general was better at that time than it is now, for all the well known reasons.

Destiny is not the same game at all as Dust, and I never expected it to replace Dust.

But if I want a strategy game, and the only option is chess, i'll play something else until a better strategy game shows up.

And I certainly wouldnt reference "skill" what so ever in combination with Dust. Specially when the game has been hemorrhaging vets since day 1.

INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC/ Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/ Num1 AHole in Dust/ Politically Incorrect MAN

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Pr0phetzReck0ning KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 256	Posted - 2014.07.16 11:49:00 - [1] - Quote Are ya'll getting ready for the Back Door Penetration, Destiny is about to bestow on you, CCP?? Beta is Tomorrow!!! Woot Woot. I'm going to start a Destiny Dance Party ^_^

ChribbaX Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions 1238	Posted - 2014.07.16 11:51:00 - [2] - Quote Because of Volcano. DUSTSearch DUSTBoard DUST Server Status

Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 773	Posted - 2014.07.16 11:51:00 - [3] - Quote True FPS players like to shoot other players in the face, not AI bots. Destiny will be childish garbage. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Pr0phetzReck0ning KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 256	Posted - 2014.07.16 11:52:00 - [4] - Quote ChribbaX wrote: Because of Volcano. Thats one way of calling it I suppose lmao!!
Pr0phetzReck0ning KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 256	Posted - 2014.07.16 11:53:00 - [5] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: True FPS players like to shoot other players in the face, not AI bots. Destiny will be childish garbage. Uh...Destiny has tons of PVP NOT JUST PVE ..... -_- Remove Yourself
Izlare Lenix Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo 773	Posted - 2014.07.16 11:58:00 - [6] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: True FPS players like to shoot other players in the face, not AI bots. Destiny will be childish garbage. Uh...Destiny has tons of PVP NOT JUST PVE ..... -_- Remove Yourself Not really. The core of the game the 'missions' of whatever they are called are AI based. Most of the time when you are shooting something it will be a bot. Have fun with that. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Pr0phetzReck0ning KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 256	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:02:00 - [7] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: True FPS players like to shoot other players in the face, not AI bots. Destiny will be childish garbage. Uh...Destiny has tons of PVP NOT JUST PVE ..... -_- Remove Yourself Not really. The core of the game the 'missions' of whatever they are called are AI based. Most of the time when you are shooting something it will be a bot. Have fun with that. I shall have more fun than you playing the same 3 game modes every day with the same community of try hards. With the same ridiculos lag. The FOTM's and the highly broken and pointless PC... So yes I shall have fun and you shall be stuck
steelRatt Ametat Security Amarr Empire 35	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:11:00 - [8] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: True FPS players like to shoot other players in the face, not AI bots. Destiny will be childish garbage. Uh...Destiny has tons of PVP NOT JUST PVE ..... -_- Remove Yourself Not really. The core of the game the 'missions' of whatever they are called are AI based. Most of the time when you are shooting something it will be a bot. Have fun with that. true mmo games are pve games with pvp best of both worldslook at WOW it was the biggest game ever with over 20mil players till it became s#:t also we don't no how destiny is going to work but you stay here play the same 4 maps with the same game modes against the same players in the same shrinking community Defeat dose not exist to them that are willing.
Spaceman-Rob Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 456	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:54:00 - [9] - Quote Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: True FPS players like to shoot other players in the face, not AI bots. Destiny will be childish garbage. Uh...Destiny has tons of PVP NOT JUST PVE ..... -_- Remove Yourself Not really. The core of the game the 'missions' of whatever they are called are AI based. Most of the time when you are shooting something it will be a bot. Have fun with that. I shall have more fun than you playing the same 3 game modes every day with the same community of try hards. With the same ridiculos lag. The FOTM's and the highly broken and pointless PC... So yes I shall have fun and you shall be stuck Destiny will have its own problems, don't you worry about that.
Jimmy Slapnuts Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 60	Posted - 2014.07.16 13:09:00 - [10] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: True FPS players like to shoot other players in the face, not AI bots. Destiny will be childish garbage. Uh...Destiny has tons of PVP NOT JUST PVE ..... -_- Remove Yourself Not really. The core of the game the 'missions' of whatever they are called are AI based. Most of the time when you are shooting something it will be a bot. Have fun with that. I shall have more fun than you playing the same 3 game modes every day with the same community of try hards. With the same ridiculos lag. The FOTM's and the highly broken and pointless PC... So yes I shall have fun and you shall be stuck Destiny will have its own problems, don't you worry about that. No doubt, every game does. However, I'm willing to bet cash money that Destiny will be more polished out of the gate than Dust is (even now), any significant problems will be sorted out reasonably quickly, and Bungee won't just give up and abandon it (and it's players) less than a year after it's release. Face it, Dust has set a pretty low bar.

Glass Bowtie Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.07.16 13:10:00 - [11] - Quote Destiny may not be the pvp replacment for Dust, but it will function, and the folks making Destiny 1) Aren't criminal scum bags, and 2) Have made first person shooters before, so it won't be utter garbage. Destiny might not be Dust, but Dust is nowhere near MAG, so getting high and mighty about Dust is hilarious. If you wanna tout the whole pvp skill thing here in Dust, you must forever be using militia with no SP invested in anything at all. Otherwise you are just riding your crutch, and "skill" does not belong in any of your statments.
Jimmy Slapnuts Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 60	Posted - 2014.07.16 13:15:00 - [12] - Quote The AI enemies in Destiny will probably be tougher than most of the current HUMAN players in Dust (myself included )
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 487	Posted - 2014.07.16 13:46:00 - [13] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: True FPS players like to shoot other players in the face, not AI bots. Destiny will be childish garbage. Uh...Destiny has tons of PVP NOT JUST PVE ..... -_- Remove Yourself Not really. The core of the game the 'missions' of whatever they are called are AI based. Most of the time when you are shooting something it will be a bot. Have fun with that. So basically the average level of the competition will be higher than in DUST. Thanks for confirming. It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
Mike De Luca STOP TRYING TO RECRUIT ME 187	Posted - 2014.07.16 14:09:00 - [14] - Quote It's just a beta, can't confirm anything from it until it launches in about 2 months AFTER the final tweaks have been made. I'm holding off my final judgements until then and providing any feedback Bungie might need to make the experience better. what i think of when charging fg
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2338	Posted - 2014.07.16 15:05:00 - [15] - Quote pulls out a pen and a little notebook and adds Destiny to the list of games that were supposed to kill Dust CPM1 Underdog *Greedy Bastards*
Yeeeuuuupppp uptown456 Dark Taboo 478	Posted - 2014.07.16 15:16:00 - [16] - Quote This is a sign of the game slowly perishing. Rage Proficiency V Mic status: Muted Storage Wars Champion.
Spaceman-Rob Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 456	Posted - 2014.07.16 15:17:00 - [17] - Quote All aboard the Destiny hype train! woot woot!
Master Jaraiya Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1495	Posted - 2014.07.16 15:23:00 - [18] - Quote I was thinking about buying the preorder, then I decided to go watch some videos of it lol. With all its flaws, I'd much rather play DUST 514 "The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies." *- The Toad Sage*
Jimmy Slapnuts Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 63	Posted - 2014.07.16 15:45:00 - [19] - Quote Anarchide wrote: pulls out a pen and a little notebook and adds Destiny to the list of games that were supposed to kill Dust True, I doubt any single game will kill Dust, but it dies a little more with each new game released. That, combined with the fact that there is no new content to look forward to, CCP has left it's players with very little reason to jump ship to better, more polished games that actually HAVE a future. Destiny will be just another nail in the coffin.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2339	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:01:00 - [20] - Quote The standard Chess game doesn't have any new content or updates, but it still have a playerbase! CPM1 Underdog *Greedy Bastards*

Glass Bowtie Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:34:00 - [21] - Quote Anarchide wrote: The standard Chess game doesn't have any new content or updates, but it still have a playerbase! And of course thats why you play chess instead of decent video games. Confused as to why you are here. True, it has been a common them among these forums that as new games come out, they signal the death of Dust. While this may not be completely true, each new wave of new games that comes out sees a mass exodus of Dust veterans, as well as a drop in quality of Dust in general. Don't believe me? Dust was in a way better place when GTA was suppose to kill it. GTA didn't kill it of course, but Dust in general was better at that time than it is now, for all the well known reasons. Destiny is not the same game at all as Dust, and I never expected it to replace Dust. But if I want a strategy game, and the only option is chess, i'll play something else until a better strategy game shows up. And I certainly wouldnt reference "skill" what so ever in combination with Dust. Specially when the game has been hemorrhaging vets since day 1.
Jimmy Slapnuts Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic 65	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:45:00 - [22] - Quote Anarchide wrote: The standard Chess game doesn't have any new content or updates, but it still have a playerbase! That's because Chess is an infinitely better game than Dust. Perfectly balanced, no lag, no bugs, all the pieces are included and work properly, etc ....
aaaasdff ertgfdd 150	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:51:00 - [23] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: True FPS players like to shoot other players in the face, not AI bots. Destiny will be childish garbage. It has pvp my friend, full spec of games as well. INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC/ Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/ Num1 AHole in Dust/ Politically Incorrect MAN
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5665	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:52:00 - [24] - Quote Jimmy Slapnuts wrote: Spaceman-Rob wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Izlare Lenix wrote: Pr0phetzReck0ning wrote: Uh...Destiny has tons of PVP NOT JUST PVE ..... -_- Remove Yourself Not really. The core of the game the 'missions' of whatever they are called are AI based. Most of the time when you are shooting something it will be a bot. Have fun with that. I shall have more fun than you playing the same 3 game modes every day with the same community of try hards. With the same ridiculos lag. The FOTM's and the highly broken and pointless PC... So yes I shall have fun and you shall be stuck Destiny will have its own problems, don't you worry about that. No doubt, every game does. However, I'm willing to bet cash money that Destiny will be more polished out of the gate than Dust is (even now), any significant problems will be sorted out reasonably quickly, and Bungee won't just give up and abandon it (and it's players) less than a year after it's release. Face it, Dust has set a pretty low bar. I've learned from SWTOR not to trust your big, well-respected game developers. It was great out of the gates, but had practically no endgame, a ****** PVP experience, and game balance got WORSE as the devs tried "fixing" it, despite it not being broken in the first place. EA tried to help by overcharging for expansions and making the game F2P Now look at the state it's in. It's a mockery of what it was out of the gates. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
aaaasdff ertgfdd 151	Posted - 2014.07.16 17:00:00 - [25] - Quote Glass Bowtie wrote: Anarchide wrote: The standard Chess game doesn't have any new content or updates, but it still have a playerbase! And of course thats why you play chess instead of decent video games. Confused as to why you are here. True, it has been a common them among these forums that as new games come out, they signal the death of Dust. While this may not be completely true, each new wave of new games that comes out sees a mass exodus of Dust veterans, as well as a drop in quality of Dust in general. Don't believe me? Dust was in a way better place when GTA was suppose to kill it. GTA didn't kill it of course, but Dust in general was better at that time than it is now, for all the well known reasons. Destiny is not the same game at all as Dust, and I never expected it to replace Dust. But if I want a strategy game, and the only option is chess, i'll play something else until a better strategy game shows up. And I certainly wouldnt reference "skill" what so ever in combination with Dust. Specially when the game has been hemorrhaging vets since day 1. Its been hemorrhaging eve players that leveled up in this game early on, but then as real fps players came from other shooters they got raped and quit. An example would be the first dust tournament, won by the beta max and si, those dudes were being led by Jenza in that match, she used a scout and then heavy. But later they sucked and got owned, and people like her, iws, etc etc who came from eve sucked balls at shooting, they didnt have decades of shooting experience built into their thumbs. They been clicking a damn mouse telling their ship to shoot another ship, looking at spreadsheets. This huge influx of eve also created many of the first imbalance, as they were trying to build balancr off the feedback of horrible shooters. Thankfully many of them are gone. INFINITE DIVERSITY IDIC/ Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/ Num1 AHole in Dust/ Politically Incorrect MAN
Glass Bowtie Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 17	Posted - 2014.07.16 17:31:00 - [26] - Quote Unfortunately, even without the advice of crappy EVE people, CCP still has no idea how to properly design and balance an fps in any way shape or form. Hence Legion not being green lit. If CCP had even the slightest idea how to make a decent fps, the game would at least be marginally successful. Enough to justify actually begining work on Legion. Even with the scraps of the player base left over from FF14. The fact that balance was never even remotely approached, and the fact that to this day the role of certain classes on the battlefield is still not figured out, along with the poor quality of the most basic parts of an fps (moving without getting caught on the ground) speaks to CCPs skill at creating an fps. Of course, thats because of the U3 engine. And if that was even remotely true, you would think someone would have picked up on that, what, 3-4 years ago, when they started work on the game? Either way, the quality of Destiny will be head and shoulders above Dust. Now whether Destiny is the type of game any given individual will want to play is a different story. I want a competitive fps, and Destiny will not be that. But i'm unwilling to play a game with a lower overall quality than the original Quake to get my competitive fps. For everyone else, thats their choice. And being someone who played Dust religiously for nearly a year, to the point it could have been considered a job, once you reallybreak away from this trash (im not talking about a 1 night break) you realize how sad and crappy Dust is, and playing a game that a company actually spends money developing, as opposed to randomly throwing money at projects said company doesnt have the intent or ability to ever finish, is quite the breath of fresh air.


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