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deezy dabest
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Posted - 2014.07.16 16:34:00 -
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boba's fetta wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Just ran a small test and this is NOT the case. Will have the raw feed up shortly and will see about getting an edited version up as well. dont edit just post. we have seen evidence to suggest this is the case. if you have something that prove's it wrong we would like to see it. again my own testing isnt complete.
Raw Test Video
It is difficult to see since targeting info is not displayed but there was actually a couple of cases where it seemed to deliver more damage when not on center.
We tested with basic HMG and basic assault HMG at multiple ranges. If anyone has a specific request on how to test it or would like to run their own test and just have me film for them feel free to drop me mail in game.
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Master Jaraiya
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1499
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Posted - 2014.07.16 16:50:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:boba's fetta wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Just ran a small test and this is NOT the case. Will have the raw feed up shortly and will see about getting an edited version up as well. dont edit just post. we have seen evidence to suggest this is the case. if you have something that prove's it wrong we would like to see it. again my own testing isnt complete. Raw Test VideoIt is difficult to see since targeting info is not displayed but there was actually a couple of cases where it seemed to deliver more damage when not on center. We tested with basic HMG and basic assault HMG at multiple ranges. If anyone has a specific request on how to test it or would like to run their own test and just have me film for them feel free to drop me mail in game.
Haa
GTFO that video is not even recent. Dude seriously, the target reticule isn't even the same now lmmfao.
Nice try, show me where the heavy touched you.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
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boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:00:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:deezy dabest wrote:boba's fetta wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Just ran a small test and this is NOT the case. Will have the raw feed up shortly and will see about getting an edited version up as well. dont edit just post. we have seen evidence to suggest this is the case. if you have something that prove's it wrong we would like to see it. again my own testing isnt complete. Raw Test VideoIt is difficult to see since targeting info is not displayed but there was actually a couple of cases where it seemed to deliver more damage when not on center. We tested with basic HMG and basic assault HMG at multiple ranges. If anyone has a specific request on how to test it or would like to run their own test and just have me film for them feel free to drop me mail in game. Haa GTFO that video is not even recent. Dude seriously, the target reticule isn't even the same now lmmfao. Nice try, show me where the heavy touched you.
and this is why i wanted to see the raw unedited footage =)
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Master Jaraiya
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1499
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:16:00 -
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boba's fetta wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:deezy dabest wrote:boba's fetta wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Just ran a small test and this is NOT the case. Will have the raw feed up shortly and will see about getting an edited version up as well. dont edit just post. we have seen evidence to suggest this is the case. if you have something that prove's it wrong we would like to see it. again my own testing isnt complete. Raw Test VideoIt is difficult to see since targeting info is not displayed but there was actually a couple of cases where it seemed to deliver more damage when not on center. We tested with basic HMG and basic assault HMG at multiple ranges. If anyone has a specific request on how to test it or would like to run their own test and just have me film for them feel free to drop me mail in game. Haa GTFO that video is not even recent. Dude seriously, the target reticule isn't even the same now lmmfao. Nice try, show me where the heavy touched you. and this is why i wanted to see the raw unedited footage =)
IKR lol I downloaded the video too, not saying he would go n take it down n replace it with a doctored version having the same title and description or anything, but he did upload a video of old gameplay footage trying to pass it off as legit.
He must not have noticed I stated I was a Chromosome Vet.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
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Posted - 2014.07.16 18:12:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:deezy dabest wrote:boba's fetta wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Just ran a small test and this is NOT the case. Will have the raw feed up shortly and will see about getting an edited version up as well. dont edit just post. we have seen evidence to suggest this is the case. if you have something that prove's it wrong we would like to see it. again my own testing isnt complete. Raw Test VideoIt is difficult to see since targeting info is not displayed but there was actually a couple of cases where it seemed to deliver more damage when not on center. We tested with basic HMG and basic assault HMG at multiple ranges. If anyone has a specific request on how to test it or would like to run their own test and just have me film for them feel free to drop me mail in game. Haa GTFO that video is not even recent. Dude seriously, the target reticule isn't even the same now lmmfao. Nice try, show me where the heavy touched you.
That was recorded after i read this thread. We are still online if you would like to come ask yourself. Drop me a line in game.
Oh and I am currently streaming live as well. So yea....... definitely not recent at all.
Good job on making yourself look like the forum troll you are.
Laser focused in a room full of mirrors. Everything you ever wanted coming SoonGäó just keep buying boosters.
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MassiveNine
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
842
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Posted - 2014.07.16 18:23:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:deezy dabest wrote:boba's fetta wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Just ran a small test and this is NOT the case. Will have the raw feed up shortly and will see about getting an edited version up as well. dont edit just post. we have seen evidence to suggest this is the case. if you have something that prove's it wrong we would like to see it. again my own testing isnt complete. Raw Test VideoIt is difficult to see since targeting info is not displayed but there was actually a couple of cases where it seemed to deliver more damage when not on center. We tested with basic HMG and basic assault HMG at multiple ranges. If anyone has a specific request on how to test it or would like to run their own test and just have me film for them feel free to drop me mail in game. Haa GTFO that video is not even recent. Dude seriously, the target reticule isn't even the same now lmmfao. Nice try, show me where the heavy touched you. That was recorded after i read this thread. We are still online if you would like to come ask yourself. Drop me a line in game. Oh and I am currently streaming live as well. So yea....... definitely not recent at all. Good job on making yourself look like the forum troll you are.
While he might have been wrong about the date of the video, Jaraiya is one of the few people who have fought reasonably tooth and nail for the heavy, and has provided proof and sources multiple times. If he says there is something wrong the hmg, there is.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
780
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Posted - 2014.07.16 18:47:00 -
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MassiveNine wrote:
While he might have been wrong about the date of the video, Jaraiya is one of the few people who have fought reasonably tooth and nail for the heavy, and has provided proof and sources multiple times. If he says there is something wrong the hmg, there is.
I dont care about the statement on the date of the video, I am more worried about the fact that he did not even know what the reticule looks like.
No worries either way, mistakes happen.
Laser focused in a room full of mirrors. Everything you ever wanted coming SoonGäó just keep buying boosters.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
508
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Posted - 2014.07.16 18:59:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:So you're telling me that the HMG is currently too hard to aim and kill with.... No, I'm telling CCP that the HMG either needs updated animations and a new reticule, or a bug fix. When I use it, it seems more than fine. I don't even have to aim, i just hold down R1 and try to control the rise on it, while i let auto-aim track strafers. The key is to counter strafe and let auto aim do the work for you
LOLOLOL this is so troll...but kind of true too...
"One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only mk.0 Scouts do ... wait... I'm still outclassed by Gal scouts.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1436
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:32:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:So you're telling me that the HMG is currently too hard to aim and kill with.... No, I'm telling CCP that the HMG either needs updated animations and a new reticule, or a bug fix. When I use it, it seems more than fine. I don't even have to aim, i just hold down R1 and try to control the rise on it, while i let auto-aim track strafers. The key is to counter strafe and let auto aim do the work for you Bahahahahahah You are trying to tell me that a weapon is too easy to use, but you use auto aim lmmfao /facepalm No, no I don't use auto aim.
Well auto-aim is linked to hit detection, so if you're having problems, that might be it
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:34:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:So you're telling me that the HMG is currently too hard to aim and kill with.... No, I'm telling CCP that the HMG either needs updated animations and a new reticule, or a bug fix. When I use it, it seems more than fine. I don't even have to aim, i just hold down R1 and try to control the rise on it, while i let auto-aim track strafers. The key is to counter strafe and let auto aim do the work for you Bahahahahahah You are trying to tell me that a weapon is too easy to use, but you use auto aim lmmfao /facepalm No, no I don't use auto aim.
That's the problem with having auto aim off. You can be aiming at the same spot you would with auto aim only you'll miss have your shots because there's no bullet magnatism. The game should be designed and play tested with auto aim off until it feels right and aim assist should only make small movements to the crosshair with no changes to the hit detection system.
Dispersion and kick mean nothing if aim assist makes the guns always find the target even if the crosshair is not even touching the enemy sometimes. We'd probably need a client side update and a complete rework of how guns and aim assist behave and I only hope they're changing it up for legion.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1480
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:38:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:deezy dabest wrote:boba's fetta wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Just ran a small test and this is NOT the case. Will have the raw feed up shortly and will see about getting an edited version up as well. dont edit just post. we have seen evidence to suggest this is the case. if you have something that prove's it wrong we would like to see it. again my own testing isnt complete. Raw Test VideoIt is difficult to see since targeting info is not displayed but there was actually a couple of cases where it seemed to deliver more damage when not on center. We tested with basic HMG and basic assault HMG at multiple ranges. If anyone has a specific request on how to test it or would like to run their own test and just have me film for them feel free to drop me mail in game. Haa GTFO that video is not even recent. Dude seriously, the target reticule isn't even the same now lmmfao. Nice try, show me where the heavy touched you.
....Anything that contradicts you, no matter how well based in fact, is going to be attacked by you because you believe that abstractions that you conjure are concrete evidence. Your HMG is more than fine, and now you want it to be even easier to use?
GTFO
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
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Master Jaraiya
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1505
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Posted - 2014.07.16 23:29:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:deezy dabest wrote:boba's fetta wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Just ran a small test and this is NOT the case. Will have the raw feed up shortly and will see about getting an edited version up as well. dont edit just post. we have seen evidence to suggest this is the case. if you have something that prove's it wrong we would like to see it. again my own testing isnt complete. Raw Test VideoIt is difficult to see since targeting info is not displayed but there was actually a couple of cases where it seemed to deliver more damage when not on center. We tested with basic HMG and basic assault HMG at multiple ranges. If anyone has a specific request on how to test it or would like to run their own test and just have me film for them feel free to drop me mail in game. Haa GTFO that video is not even recent. Dude seriously, the target reticule isn't even the same now lmmfao. Nice try, show me where the heavy touched you. ....Anything that contradicts you, no matter how well based in fact, is going to be attacked by you because you believe that abstractions that you conjure are concrete evidence. Your HMG is more than fine, and now you want it to be even easier to use? GTFO
Lol no, I want the HMG to work as intended, and the damn animations to match! Right now, they don't, and that lame attempt to prove me wrong backfired. It isn't a recent video because the damn HMG reticule isn't even like that any longer lol. Am I the only one who sees that? SMH open your eyes man!
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Master Jaraiya
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1505
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Posted - 2014.07.16 23:31:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:MassiveNine wrote:
While he might have been wrong about the date of the video, Jaraiya is one of the few people who have fought reasonably tooth and nail for the heavy, and has provided proof and sources multiple times. If he says there is something wrong the hmg, there is.
I dont care about the statement on the date of the video, I am more worried about the fact that he did not even know what the reticule looks like. No worries either way, mistakes happen.
Wow, really. Are you ******* kidding me lol.
You got ballz ill give you that.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
349
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Posted - 2014.07.16 23:48:00 -
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Master Jaraiya, I am completely appalled how some came to your thread with the nerf the heavy agenda. What you are talking about indeed happens. I played some matches today and yes, the little almost invisible dot has to be on target for the damage to register. Case in point, a mercenary hid behind a shoulder high wall. The ring of the reticule turned red when I acquired target, yet when firing, he received no damage. I expected a lil bit of damage to register because of projectile spread but none happened. When making sure the dot placed on his head, I noticed the spread still missed him only this time, I watched the trace round go directly into the dot and grant me a head shot kill.
I wish could record it. I really need to invest in the capabilities anyway.
This is something worth discussing. Is this due to the stun/slowdown effect that was used for better hit detection that was removed? I would like to get a dev's attention on this. |
Master Jaraiya
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1505
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Posted - 2014.07.16 23:53:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Master Jaraiya, I am completely appalled how some came to your thread with the nerf the heavy agenda. What you are talking about indeed happens. I played some matches today and yes, the little almost invisible dot has to be on target for the damage to register. Case in point, a mercenary hid behind a shoulder high wall. The ring of the reticule turned red when I acquired target, yet when firing, he received no damage. I expected a lil bit of damage to register because of projectile spread but none happened. When making sure the dot placed on his head, I noticed the spread still missed him only this time, I watched the trace round go directly into the dot and grant me a head shot kill.
I wish could record it. I really need to invest in the capabilities anyway.
This is something worth discussing. Is this due to the stun/slowdown effect that was used for better hit detection that was removed? I would like to get a dev's attention on this.
No, they just rolled back a fix to the HMG sometime between 1.4 and Hotfix Bravo.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
349
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Posted - 2014.07.17 00:02:00 -
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boba's fetta
Dead Man's Game
Dark Taboo
745
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Posted - 2014.07.17 00:26:00 -
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if we have a willing victim we can prove this definatively. my test footage with the supply depot while it appears to prove the point isnt conculsive.
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Master Jaraiya
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1506
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Posted - 2014.07.17 01:36:00 -
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HMG does work as intended, though they lowered the dispersion significantly since the end of Dec 2013.
I still would like to see the reticule changed, and the animations for the dispersion toned down a bit.
@ Gav, you were right, though, if you let aim assist track for you it makes a huge difference in the amount of rounds that land on its target.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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KING CHECKMATE
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
5294
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Posted - 2014.07.17 01:39:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:So you're telling me that the HMG is currently too hard to aim and kill with....
I find it surprising too.
I mean, with all due respect, im not an ''old school heavy'' well, at least not with HMG's, but i actually find myself DROPPING my Proto Gal scout in order to run around with heavies since its so easy for me to mow down 2-3-4+ enemies without problem with the HMG....
And i use the STD HMG with no dam mods nor prof...
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Master Jaraiya
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1506
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Posted - 2014.07.17 01:40:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:
That was recorded after i read this thread. We are still online if you would like to come ask yourself. Drop me a line in game.
Oh and I am currently streaming live as well. So yea....... definitely not recent at all.
Good job on making yourself look like the forum troll you are.
Seems to me there's a difference in the reticule's behavior between our video and yours. Care to retract lol?
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Master Jaraiya
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1506
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Posted - 2014.07.17 02:28:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:So you're telling me that the HMG is currently too hard to aim and kill with.... I find it surprising too. I mean, with all due respect, im not an ''old school heavy'' well, at least not with HMG's, but i actually find myself DROPPING my Proto Gal scout in order to run around with heavies since its so easy for me to mow down 2-3-4+ enemies without problem with the HMG.... And i use the STD HMG with no dam mods nor prof...
lol you guys and your egos
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
1742
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Posted - 2014.07.17 02:45:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Dear CCP, If you can remember, prior to Uprising 1.4 many of us veteran heavies had noticed something "off" about the HMG. Several threads and support tickets were created, and a video was eventually made (linked in original thread below) before it was decided that, indeed, the HMG was not operating as intended. Thread with VideoMy thread in FeedbackThe HMG is back to operating exactly like in the video, the only difference being it has a new Reticule. Honestly, the new reticule just pisses me off more when bunny hopping, uberstrafing, speed tanked Mercs are dancing in a hail of HMG bullets, but take absolutely no damage unless the tiny, barely visible dot in the center touches the target, lighting an orange crosshair. Did you really think nobody would notice?
I agree. Another issue is when you take damage its like your feet is welded to the ground which makes it even harder to track and hit a moving target.
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
783
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Posted - 2014.07.17 03:44:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:deezy dabest wrote:
That was recorded after i read this thread. We are still online if you would like to come ask yourself. Drop me a line in game.
Oh and I am currently streaming live as well. So yea....... definitely not recent at all.
Good job on making yourself look like the forum troll you are.
Seems to me there's a difference in the reticule's behavior between our video and yours. Care to retract lol?
I am still live streaming right now with the exact same reticule. Feel free to drop in, I will be around for about another hour.
http://www.twitch.tv/deezy_dabest
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Master Jaraiya
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1508
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Posted - 2014.07.17 06:11:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:deezy dabest wrote:
That was recorded after i read this thread. We are still online if you would like to come ask yourself. Drop me a line in game.
Oh and I am currently streaming live as well. So yea....... definitely not recent at all.
Good job on making yourself look like the forum troll you are.
Seems to me there's a difference in the reticule's behavior between our video and yours. Care to retract lol? I am still live streaming right now with the exact same reticule. Feel free to drop in, I will be around for about another hour. http://www.twitch.tv/deezy_dabest
Gaming Monitor? How are you changing the reticule?
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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deezy dabest
IMPERIAL SPECIAL FORCES GROUP
783
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Posted - 2014.07.17 06:22:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:deezy dabest wrote:
That was recorded after i read this thread. We are still online if you would like to come ask yourself. Drop me a line in game.
Oh and I am currently streaming live as well. So yea....... definitely not recent at all.
Good job on making yourself look like the forum troll you are.
Seems to me there's a difference in the reticule's behavior between our video and yours. Care to retract lol? I am still live streaming right now with the exact same reticule. Feel free to drop in, I will be around for about another hour. http://www.twitch.tv/deezy_dabest Gaming Monitor? How are you changing the reticule?
no gaming monitor. I am playing through the AverTV HD DVR with some heavily adjusted display settings to get some things to show up better (like cloaks). I do not know what is making the reticule appear differently to you but obviously there are other people that feel mine does not look right either so I apologize for my earlier statement.
Back on topic, I am still not seeing an issue with damage application. Can I ask what range you are testing at, what suit you are shooting, and which HMG you are using? I am interested in trying to find the issue you are pointing out.
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Master Jaraiya
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1508
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Posted - 2014.07.17 06:37:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:deezy dabest wrote:
That was recorded after i read this thread. We are still online if you would like to come ask yourself. Drop me a line in game.
Oh and I am currently streaming live as well. So yea....... definitely not recent at all.
Good job on making yourself look like the forum troll you are.
Seems to me there's a difference in the reticule's behavior between our video and yours. Care to retract lol? I am still live streaming right now with the exact same reticule. Feel free to drop in, I will be around for about another hour. http://www.twitch.tv/deezy_dabest Gaming Monitor? How are you changing the reticule? no gaming monitor. I am playing through the AverTV HD DVR with some heavily adjusted display settings to get some things to show up better (like cloaks). I do not know what is making the reticule appear differently to you but obviously there are other people that feel mine does not look right either so I apologize for my earlier statement. Back on topic, I am still not seeing an issue with damage application. Can I ask what range you are testing at, what suit you are shooting, and which HMG you are using? I am interested in trying to find the issue you are pointing out.
After testing, we discovered it is applying damage all the way out to the cone, just as is shown in your video, your reticule is different though lol. If you watch Our video you will see that there is an red crosshair that lights up when the center of the cone finds a target,
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
1506
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Posted - 2014.07.17 08:07:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Dear CCP, If you can remember, prior to Uprising 1.4 many of us veteran heavies had noticed something "off" about the HMG. Several threads and support tickets were created, and a video was eventually made (linked in original thread below) before it was decided that, indeed, the HMG was not operating as intended. Thread with VideoMy thread in FeedbackThe HMG is back to operating exactly like in the video, the only difference being it has a new Reticule. Honestly, the new reticule just pisses me off more when bunny hopping, uberstrafing, speed tanked Mercs are dancing in a hail of HMG bullets, but take absolutely no damage unless the tiny, barely visible dot in the center touches the target, lighting an orange crosshair. Did you really think nobody would notice?
what is the problem? your crutch is not good enough?
HMG is fine lol
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
1889
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Posted - 2014.07.17 20:30:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Wait what? They gone back to the previous HMG mechanic where its laser accurate? Ok everybody time to get the assaults and scouts out and dance infront of a heavy again with a scrambler pistol.
More like the cone damage wasn't registering. If all the theoretical DPS was dead center HMGs would have been brokenly powerful. Or at least good enough to counter the the horrible Dropsuit stats pre-Uprising 1.8
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