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Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2014.07.16 04:55:00 -
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I'm currently a proto Amarr sentinel with a proficiency 3 HMG. While I love tearing people apart with 1700+ eHP, I do agree with a nerf for the heavies. I can kill anyone if I manage to get close to them. The only people I can't kill for some reason are caldari scouts, even at a 5-10 meter distance. (WTH? There's something going on there... ) While I DO support a nerf, don't overdo it. Look at the Flaylock Pistol. That thing was WAY overpowered. They nerfed it so hard that it's probably the least used sidearm now. A nerf is needed, but don't make it a ridiculous one. It should be just as effective as any other play style.
Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel.
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
550
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Posted - 2014.07.16 04:58:00 -
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Put the Drink down.
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
323
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:00:00 -
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No. A sentinel killing people up close? Uh, isn't that a 50 caliber weapon in your hand with a lvl 3 pro? You can't kill Cal scouts because your aim is terrible. Their agility is used against your spraying and praying style.
And question, why in the heck you are already in proto but you have a 3 pro HMG on your hands? |
Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
551
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:02:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:No. A sentinel killing people up close? Uh, isn't that a 50 caliber weapon in your hand with a lvl 3 pro? You can't kill Cal scouts because your aim is terrible. Their agility is used against your spraying and praying style.
And question, why in the heck you are already in proto but you have a 3 pro HMG on your hands?
Isnt that how its supposed to be? Does anybody need that extra 6% from 4-5?
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Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:05:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:No. A sentinel killing people up close? Uh, isn't that a 50 caliber weapon in your hand with a lvl 3 pro? You can't kill Cal scouts because your aim is terrible. Their agility is used against your spraying and praying style.
And question, why in the heck you are already in proto but you have a 3 pro HMG on your hands?
It is a giant chaingun, point taken. With that being said, they shouldn't have as much/more health than an LAV. It's a truck, for Christ's sake! I have found that the auto aim actually gives me problems against Cal scouts. I'm not sure if it was intended, but the Auto-Aim just pushes you off of them. Oh, and I got the proto Sentinel because I have other things on my suit. Its not JUST the HMG I'm supporting. I need slots, damage mods, Armor.
Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel.
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Fizzer94
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2923
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:06:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:No. A sentinel killing people up close? Uh, isn't that a 50 caliber weapon in your hand with a lvl 3 pro? You can't kill Cal scouts because your aim is terrible. Their agility is used against your spraying and praying style.
And question, why in the heck you are already in proto but you have a 3 pro HMG on your hands? Where does it say anywhere that it is a .50cal?
The fact that its bullets do less damage than the bullets from a machine pistol makes me want to say that HMG rounds are pretty small.
My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon.
Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
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Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
332
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:07:00 -
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Bone Scratcher wrote:I'm currently a proto Amarr sentinel with a proficiency 3 HMG. While I love tearing people apart with 1700+ eHP, I do agree with a nerf for the heavies. I can kill anyone if I manage to get close to them. The only people I can't kill for some reason are caldari scouts, even at a 5-10 meter distance. (WTH? There's something going on there... ) While I DO support a nerf, don't overdo it. Look at the Flaylock Pistol. That thing was WAY overpowered. They nerfed it so hard that it's probably the least used sidearm now. A nerf is needed, but don't make it a ridiculous one. It should be just as effective as any other play style.
I agree! Heavys are OP and should be nerfed to the ground oh don't forget rail rifles, combat rifles, scout suits, group share scanning, tanks, ADS, mass drivers, red line sniping, sniper rifles, assault rifles, AV grenades, demolition grenades, forge guns, swarm launchers, prototype tank turrets, hmg, logi suits, scrambler rifles, smgs, scrambler pistols, the mcc, missile turrets, rail turrets, blaster turrets, the rep tool, nanohives, drop up links, your cat, my dog, lavs, jlavs, the login button, balance... and my most favorite of the all anything that kills me in the gaaaaaame....
Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
37
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:09:00 -
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Miokai Zahou wrote:Bone Scratcher wrote:I'm currently a proto Amarr sentinel with a proficiency 3 HMG. While I love tearing people apart with 1700+ eHP, I do agree with a nerf for the heavies. I can kill anyone if I manage to get close to them. The only people I can't kill for some reason are caldari scouts, even at a 5-10 meter distance. (WTH? There's something going on there... ) While I DO support a nerf, don't overdo it. Look at the Flaylock Pistol. That thing was WAY overpowered. They nerfed it so hard that it's probably the least used sidearm now. A nerf is needed, but don't make it a ridiculous one. It should be just as effective as any other play style. I agree! Heavys are OP and should be nerfed to the ground oh don't forget rail rifles, combat rifles, scout suits, group share scanning, tanks, ADS, mass drivers, red line sniping, sniper rifles, assault rifles, AV grenades, demolition grenades, forge guns, swarm launchers, prototype tank turrets, hmg, logi suits, scrambler rifles, smgs, scrambler pistols, the mcc, missile turrets, rail turrets, blaster turrets, the rep tool, nanohives, drop up links, your cat, my dog, lavs, jlavs, the login button, balance... and my most favorite of the all anything that kills me in the gaaaaaame....
So what you're saying is the heavy ISN'T OP? Chances are you're a heavy yourself.
Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel.
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Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
332
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:11:00 -
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Bone Scratcher wrote:Miokai Zahou wrote:Bone Scratcher wrote:I'm currently a proto Amarr sentinel with a proficiency 3 HMG. While I love tearing people apart with 1700+ eHP, I do agree with a nerf for the heavies. I can kill anyone if I manage to get close to them. The only people I can't kill for some reason are caldari scouts, even at a 5-10 meter distance. (WTH? There's something going on there... ) While I DO support a nerf, don't overdo it. Look at the Flaylock Pistol. That thing was WAY overpowered. They nerfed it so hard that it's probably the least used sidearm now. A nerf is needed, but don't make it a ridiculous one. It should be just as effective as any other play style. I agree! Heavys are OP and should be nerfed to the ground oh don't forget rail rifles, combat rifles, scout suits, group share scanning, tanks, ADS, mass drivers, red line sniping, sniper rifles, assault rifles, AV grenades, demolition grenades, forge guns, swarm launchers, prototype tank turrets, hmg, logi suits, scrambler rifles, smgs, scrambler pistols, the mcc, missile turrets, rail turrets, blaster turrets, the rep tool, nanohives, drop up links, your cat, my dog, lavs, jlavs, the login button, balance... and my most favorite of the all anything that kills me in the gaaaaaame.... So what you're saying is the heavy ISN'T OP? Chances are you're a heavy yourself.
Yes sir I am! I'm also an assault user, scout user, logi user, commando user and an ADS pilot with a smeg of milita tank derping... All proto level.(not the tank part)
Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
323
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:12:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:No. A sentinel killing people up close? Uh, isn't that a 50 caliber weapon in your hand with a lvl 3 pro? You can't kill Cal scouts because your aim is terrible. Their agility is used against your spraying and praying style.
And question, why in the heck you are already in proto but you have a 3 pro HMG on your hands? Isnt that how its supposed to be? Does anybody need that extra 6% from 4-5?
Yes you do. You face me in a pub match or PC, you will get wrecked by my Sentinel with lvl 5 pro on HMG...and then you will just say that the HMG is OP.
That extra 6 percent is what you need facing highly competitive players. I will take that extra 6 percent any day because it matters in tight situations.
Fizzer94 wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:No. A sentinel killing people up close? Uh, isn't that a 50 caliber weapon in your hand with a lvl 3 pro? You can't kill Cal scouts because your aim is terrible. Their agility is used against your spraying and praying style.
And question, why in the heck you are already in proto but you have a 3 pro HMG on your hands? Where does it say anywhere that it is a .50cal? The fact that its bullets do less damage than the bullets from a machine pistol makes me want to say that HMG rounds are pretty small.
I'm pretty sure by just looking at the weapon, its a futuristic 50 cal. Simple stuff really. |
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1408
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:12:00 -
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Bone Scratcher wrote:Miokai Zahou wrote:Bone Scratcher wrote:I'm currently a proto Amarr sentinel with a proficiency 3 HMG. While I love tearing people apart with 1700+ eHP, I do agree with a nerf for the heavies. I can kill anyone if I manage to get close to them. The only people I can't kill for some reason are caldari scouts, even at a 5-10 meter distance. (WTH? There's something going on there... ) While I DO support a nerf, don't overdo it. Look at the Flaylock Pistol. That thing was WAY overpowered. They nerfed it so hard that it's probably the least used sidearm now. A nerf is needed, but don't make it a ridiculous one. It should be just as effective as any other play style. I agree! Heavys are OP and should be nerfed to the ground oh don't forget rail rifles, combat rifles, scout suits, group share scanning, tanks, ADS, mass drivers, red line sniping, sniper rifles, assault rifles, AV grenades, demolition grenades, forge guns, swarm launchers, prototype tank turrets, hmg, logi suits, scrambler rifles, smgs, scrambler pistols, the mcc, missile turrets, rail turrets, blaster turrets, the rep tool, nanohives, drop up links, your cat, my dog, lavs, jlavs, the login button, balance... and my most favorite of the all anything that kills me in the gaaaaaame.... So what you're saying is the heavy ISN'T OP? Chances are you're a heavy yourself. Anyone who says that the heavy isn't OP is a heavy....you can't kill one with a rifle unless its a RR at 80+ meters, and anyone who is good can easily kill everything, while being immune to about 70% of light weapons
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
552
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:12:00 -
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Heavies are situationally powerful, combined with a player who knows how/where/when to move and you have a formidable foe. It really does suck to round a corner into a BFG, but.....Thems the breaks.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1408
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:13:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Reign Omega wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:No. A sentinel killing people up close? Uh, isn't that a 50 caliber weapon in your hand with a lvl 3 pro? You can't kill Cal scouts because your aim is terrible. Their agility is used against your spraying and praying style.
And question, why in the heck you are already in proto but you have a 3 pro HMG on your hands? Isnt that how its supposed to be? Does anybody need that extra 6% from 4-5? Yes you do. You face me in a pub match or PC, you will get wrecked by my Sentinel with lvl 5 pro on HMG...and then you will just say that the HMG is OP. That extra 6 percent is what you need facing highly competitive players. I will take that extra 6 percent any day because it matters in tight situations. Fizzer94 wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:No. A sentinel killing people up close? Uh, isn't that a 50 caliber weapon in your hand with a lvl 3 pro? You can't kill Cal scouts because your aim is terrible. Their agility is used against your spraying and praying style.
And question, why in the heck you are already in proto but you have a 3 pro HMG on your hands? Where does it say anywhere that it is a .50cal? The fact that its bullets do less damage than the bullets from a machine pistol makes me want to say that HMG rounds are pretty small. I'm pretty sure by just looking at the weapon, its a futuristic 50 cal. Simple stuff really. I was wondering why your ideas were so bad....thanks for explaining it for me!
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
40
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:14:00 -
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I'm a heavy, too. Unlike most heavies, though, I don't want to have an unfair advantage over EVERYONE ELSE. I prefer a balanced game over a one-sided game.
Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
2983
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:16:00 -
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Is this thread about OP Sentinels or OP CalScouts? |
Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
552
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:18:00 -
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Mikey, I dont think Ive ever played you in a pub or a PC. I spend most of my matches playing assault specifically because too many people cant counter heavies.. Hopefully I'll see you around when Im not on Vacation and we can box a little bit lol, then we can see about that 6% and all.
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Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
40
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:18:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:Is this thread about OP Sentinels or OP CalScouts? I don't really think the CalScouts are OP, I just think there's something weird going on with the auto-aim. So to answer, your question - Both.
Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel.
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Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
40
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:19:00 -
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The 6% is great and all, but the extra 250 armor is more important to me, so I decided to grab it first.
Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel.
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
323
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:20:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:
I was wondering why your ideas were so bad....thanks for explaining it for me!
Some of you are just plain weirdos. Have you not seen a 50 cal slung on the shoulders that is similar to the HMG of the heavy? Where else you think they got the design from?
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Hynox Xitio
0uter.Heaven
1584
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:20:00 -
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This thread is a real eye-opener.
Alcohol can really distort mental faculties at an astonishing rate.
Unleash the Fogwoggler, follow your dreams.
( -íº -£-û -íº) /)
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
554
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:22:00 -
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Side note.... The HMG as we see it in DUST is visually a take off of the GAU 2 mounted Machine gun( Jesse Ventura in Predator), which was primarily produced in 7.62mm or .30 caliber rounds. I know DUST isnt "real life" But...if I had to guess, I would say thats where the idea came from.
Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
323
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:22:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote: Mikey, I dont think Ive ever played you in a pub or a PC. I spend most of my matches playing assault specifically because too many people cant counter heavies.. Hopefully I'll see you around when Im not on Vacation and we can box a little bit lol, then we can see about that 6% and all.
Any person who gets mad because opinions differs is a child who had parents that never told him the world doesn't revolve around what he thinks is correct.
So I can't wait to smash your snotbox in. I look forward to it. See you in the war. |
Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
323
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:23:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Side note.... The HMG as we see it in DUST is visually a take off of the GAU 2 mounted Machine gun( Jesse Ventura in Predator), which was primarily produced in 7.62mm or .30 caliber rounds. I know DUST isnt "real life" But...if I had to guess, I would say thats where the idea came from.
You just googled that because you had no other point of reference, huh? Just a movie you saw. Riggght. I can't wait to smash your snotbox on the battlefield. You will see your Omega and will reign in nothing. |
Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
554
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:23:00 -
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Hynox Xitio wrote:This thread is a real eye-opener.
Alcohol can really distort mental faculties at an astonishing rate.
I currently can attest to drinking said "Kool-Aid" so I apologize for any incoherence on my part or if I drift off mid comment.
Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
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Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
40
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:24:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Reign Omega wrote: Mikey, I dont think Ive ever played you in a pub or a PC. I spend most of my matches playing assault specifically because too many people cant counter heavies.. Hopefully I'll see you around when Im not on Vacation and we can box a little bit lol, then we can see about that 6% and all. Any person who gets mad because opinions differs is a child who had parents that never told him the world doesn't revolve around what he thinks is correct. So I can't wait to smash your snotbox in. I look forward to it. See you in the war. What you just said, simplified: "It's okay to have different opinions. Because you disagree with me on that, I can't wait to fight you. "
Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel.
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
554
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:25:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Reign Omega wrote: Mikey, I dont think Ive ever played you in a pub or a PC. I spend most of my matches playing assault specifically because too many people cant counter heavies.. Hopefully I'll see you around when Im not on Vacation and we can box a little bit lol, then we can see about that 6% and all. Any person who gets mad because opinions differs is a child who had parents that never told him the world doesn't revolve around what he thinks is correct. So I can't wait to smash your snotbox in. I look forward to it. See you in the war.
Wait..what? When did I get mad? I just said itd be nice to fight another heavy... Dont misread me I dont care enough to get mad at this game, or the opinions of the people who play it. Just friendly conversation my way.
And also, Predator was my favorite movie growing up. Ive known what the Vulcan is since.....1987 or some odd ridiculous year.
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
324
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:30:00 -
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Bone Scratcher wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:Reign Omega wrote: Mikey, I dont think Ive ever played you in a pub or a PC. I spend most of my matches playing assault specifically because too many people cant counter heavies.. Hopefully I'll see you around when Im not on Vacation and we can box a little bit lol, then we can see about that 6% and all. Any person who gets mad because opinions differs is a child who had parents that never told him the world doesn't revolve around what he thinks is correct. So I can't wait to smash your snotbox in. I look forward to it. See you in the war. What you just said, simplified: "It's okay to have different opinions. Because you disagree with me on that, I can't wait to fight you. "
Take his side because you don't like what I said. I'm not a fool. The man just called me out as a liar. Says he never seen me in pubs and figures me to be of little to no skill. A forum warrior. Then he says he wants to see me about that 6 percent.
If that isn't dismissing someone and calling them out, I don't know what is. You call me out, I'm ready to fight.
If you don't understand that, well, you just don't' understand. |
Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
324
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:31:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:Reign Omega wrote: Mikey, I dont think Ive ever played you in a pub or a PC. I spend most of my matches playing assault specifically because too many people cant counter heavies.. Hopefully I'll see you around when Im not on Vacation and we can box a little bit lol, then we can see about that 6% and all. Any person who gets mad because opinions differs is a child who had parents that never told him the world doesn't revolve around what he thinks is correct. So I can't wait to smash your snotbox in. I look forward to it. See you in the war. Wait..what? When did I get mad? I just said itd be nice to fight another heavy... Dont misread me I dont care enough to get mad at this game, or the opinions of the people who play it. Just friendly conversation my way. And also, Predator was my favorite movie growing up. Ive known what the Vulcan is since.....1987 or some odd ridiculous year.
Predator is a great movie. A classic. They just don't make great action films like that anymore. |
Bone Scratcher
The dyst0pian Corporation
40
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:32:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Bone Scratcher wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:Reign Omega wrote: Mikey, I dont think Ive ever played you in a pub or a PC. I spend most of my matches playing assault specifically because too many people cant counter heavies.. Hopefully I'll see you around when Im not on Vacation and we can box a little bit lol, then we can see about that 6% and all. Any person who gets mad because opinions differs is a child who had parents that never told him the world doesn't revolve around what he thinks is correct. So I can't wait to smash your snotbox in. I look forward to it. See you in the war. What you just said, simplified: "It's okay to have different opinions. Because you disagree with me on that, I can't wait to fight you. " Take his side because you don't like what I said. I'm not a fool. The man just called me out as a liar. Says he never seen me in pubs and figures me to be of little to no skill. A forum warrior. Then he says he wants to see me about that 6 percent. If that isn't dismissing someone and calling them out, I don't know what is. You call me out, I'm ready to fight. If you don't understand that, well, you just don't' understand. I've never seen you, either...
Proto FG/HMG Amarr Sentinel.
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood Dark Taboo
3594
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:34:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:No. A sentinel killing people up close? Uh, isn't that a 50 caliber weapon in your hand with a lvl 3 pro? You can't kill Cal scouts because your aim is terrible. Their agility is used against your spraying and praying style.
And question, why in the heck you are already in proto but you have a 3 pro HMG on your hands? See this.
These are the kinds of comments that get a suit/weapon super nerfed.
Unbending, unwilling to give up a tiny bit. Greedy.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
555
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:35:00 -
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Predator is definitely a classic, Without the CGI, just good solid action. And no I wasnt calling you out, I was saying I havent had the opportunity to head up with you in a game. I am always excited to play people whom I've read their posts, or watched their vids, not even to see if Im better or not. It's almost like putting a name to a face, just a community thing.
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
324
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:53:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Predator is definitely a classic, Without the CGI, just good solid action. And no I wasnt calling you out, I was saying I havent had the opportunity to head up with you in a game. I am always excited to play people whom I've read their posts, or watched their vids, not even to see if Im better or not. I honestly want to see if I could notice the 6% damage, if its really the edge then I can skill into it because up to now I havent seen the point. It's almost like putting a name to a face, just a community thing, nothing more.
Just for the record, I didnt take it personally. But you wish to test the weight of my words and opinions. No harm in a bit of smack talk. I am always up for a challenge. Still will send you a GG if I win or lose.
Also, Im excited about the new Predator by Shane Black.
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Boot Booter
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
686
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:55:00 -
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Dudes... Hmg is getting nerfed. End of story.
What happened to the repair tool glow?
Why won't CCP answer?
Conspiracy?
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2131
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Posted - 2014.07.16 06:05:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Isnt that how its supposed to be? Does anybody need that extra 6% from 4-5?
Me, I don't regret having the +15% when mowing down other sents especially with my complex d-mods ^^ Only weapon I'll ever do that for though, besides Forge, everything else can stay at 3 prof or lower...
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Fizzer94
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
2923
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Posted - 2014.07.16 06:07:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:No. A sentinel killing people up close? Uh, isn't that a 50 caliber weapon in your hand with a lvl 3 pro? You can't kill Cal scouts because your aim is terrible. Their agility is used against your spraying and praying style.
And question, why in the heck you are already in proto but you have a 3 pro HMG on your hands? See this. These are the kinds of comments that get a suit/weapon super nerfed. Unbending, unwilling to give up a tiny bit. Greedy. That which doesn't bend, breaks.
My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon.
Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
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843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
52
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Posted - 2014.07.16 06:11:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:No. A sentinel killing people up close? Uh, isn't that a 50 caliber weapon in your hand with a lvl 3 pro? You can't kill Cal scouts because your aim is terrible. Their agility is used against your spraying and praying style.
And question, why in the heck you are already in proto but you have a 3 pro HMG on your hands? Isnt that how its supposed to be? Does anybody need that extra 6% from 4-5?
that extra 6% will mean weather or not you kill a GAL or AMA Sentinel.........they both lower damage from a HMG used against them |
Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
556
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Posted - 2014.07.16 06:12:00 -
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Lucky for me, you're a Min sentinel
Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
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Master Jaraiya
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1495
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Posted - 2014.07.16 15:36:00 -
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Bone Scratcher wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Is this thread about OP Sentinels or OP CalScouts? I don't really think the CalScouts are OP, I just think there's something weird going on with the auto-aim. So to answer, your question - Both. They rolled back a fix to the HMG. Read all about it.
And Just FYI, the Sentinel AK.0 is the only Sentinel I have trouble soloing in my Sentinel M1/Series.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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calvin b
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1739
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:04:00 -
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Bone Scratcher wrote:I'm currently a proto Amarr sentinel with a proficiency 3 HMG. While I love tearing people apart with 1700+ eHP, I do agree with a nerf for the heavies. I can kill anyone if I manage to get close to them. The only people I can't kill for some reason are caldari scouts, even at a 5-10 meter distance. (WTH? There's something going on there... ) While I DO support a nerf, don't overdo it. Look at the Flaylock Pistol. That thing was WAY overpowered. They nerfed it so hard that it's probably the least used sidearm now. A nerf is needed, but don't make it a ridiculous one. It should be just as effective as any other play style.
No, your voice does not count. Since I am your senior ranking Heavy I say STFU. I have been running heavies for a long time and for once the heavy is where it needs to be. All you new heavies or none heavies do not know WTF you are talking about and need to STFU. There is something wrong with the Cal Scout but for the heavy and its weapons you do not get a voice until you have killed at least 25K people with it.
Closed Beta Vet and Heavy, so no I am not FOTM I am an Antique
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1127
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:07:00 -
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I can admit the heavy might be OP but that's because it's intended to be able to take on multiple enemies at once in CQC and put them down quickly. In CQC the hmg heavy is a king but in that open field where everyone is 70+ meters away, even the AR can kill a HMG heavy without fear
Fizzer94 wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:No. A sentinel killing people up close? Uh, isn't that a 50 caliber weapon in your hand with a lvl 3 pro? You can't kill Cal scouts because your aim is terrible. Their agility is used against your spraying and praying style.
And question, why in the heck you are already in proto but you have a 3 pro HMG on your hands? Where does it say anywhere that it is a .50cal? The fact that its bullets do less damage than the bullets from a machine pistol makes me want to say that HMG rounds are pretty small. Well you know a .45 will put a hole straight through you but a .22 can bounce around inside of you causing much more damage
Can't say I'm all that surprised.
I've been drinking and may be drunk.... probably like most dust players.
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Vesperz
D3ATH CARD
95
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:21:00 -
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No, the game has better balance than before. It's not perfect, but it's better. Majority are just astoundingly stupid, seriously, sit back and hide some where and WATCH what people do. Damn idiots man.
Live by honor, kill by stealth.
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Master Jaraiya
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
1501
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:24:00 -
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Vesperz wrote:No, the game has better balance than before. It's not perfect, but it's better. Majority are just astoundingly stupid, seriously, sit back and hide some where and WATCH what people do. Damn idiots man. I'll admit, I have had my idiot moments, but I know some of he dances I've had with scouts probably looked really r3tarded to a 3rd person viewer.
"The true measure of a shinobi is not how he lives, but how he dies."
- The Toad Sage
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Duke Noobiam
S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance
113
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:36:00 -
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Heavies are fine, they are doing what they should be doing in close quarters combat.
How do you kill that which has no life?
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aaaasdff ertgfdd
152
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:40:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:No. A sentinel killing people up close? Uh, isn't that a 50 caliber weapon in your hand with a lvl 3 pro? You can't kill Cal scouts because your aim is terrible. Their agility is used against your spraying and praying style.
And question, why in the heck you are already in proto but you have a 3 pro HMG on your hands? Where does it say anywhere that it is a .50cal? The fact that its bullets do less damage than the bullets from a machine pistol makes me want to say that HMG rounds are pretty small. The concept of caliber is not existent in Eve or New Eden weaponry to my knowledge.
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aaaasdff ertgfdd
152
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:43:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:Side note.... The HMG as we see it in DUST is visually a take off of the GAU 2 mounted Machine gun( Jesse Ventura in Predator), which was primarily produced in 7.62mm or .30 caliber rounds. I know DUST isnt "real life" But...if I had to guess, I would say thats where the idea came from. What was Venturas part? I remember Arnold, but not Ventura.... Was he one of Arnolds men? Ah just you tuned it, didnt realize he was Blain. Guess cause back then didnt know he was anybody.....
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Peaceful Pirate No Dagger Just Swagger/
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1726
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:11:00 -
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Let's just be clear here, heavies are mini tanks, not infantry. Don't know why my swarms can't lock on... |
TechMechMeds
Inner.Hell
3912
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:14:00 -
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Miokai Zahou wrote:Bone Scratcher wrote:I'm currently a proto Amarr sentinel with a proficiency 3 HMG. While I love tearing people apart with 1700+ eHP, I do agree with a nerf for the heavies. I can kill anyone if I manage to get close to them. The only people I can't kill for some reason are caldari scouts, even at a 5-10 meter distance. (WTH? There's something going on there... ) While I DO support a nerf, don't overdo it. Look at the Flaylock Pistol. That thing was WAY overpowered. They nerfed it so hard that it's probably the least used sidearm now. A nerf is needed, but don't make it a ridiculous one. It should be just as effective as any other play style. I agree! Heavys are OP and should be nerfed to the ground oh don't forget rail rifles, combat rifles, scout suits, group share scanning, tanks, ADS, mass drivers, red line sniping, sniper rifles, assault rifles, AV grenades, demolition grenades, forge guns, swarm launchers, prototype tank turrets, hmg, logi suits, scrambler rifles, smgs, scrambler pistols, the mcc, missile turrets, rail turrets, blaster turrets, the rep tool, nanohives, drop up links, your cat, my dog, lavs, jlavs, the login button, balance... and my most favorite of the all anything that kills me in the gaaaaaame....
Hi.
I noticed your SIG and I am 27.
You are a noob/newb/nub.
Someone had to do it.
Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!.
This is unacceptable!.
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DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:29:00 -
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Bone Scratcher wrote:I'm currently a proto Amarr sentinel with a proficiency 3 HMG. While I love tearing people apart with 1700+ eHP, I do agree with a nerf for the heavies. I can kill anyone if I manage to get close to them. The only people I can't kill for some reason are caldari scouts, even at a 5-10 meter distance. (WTH? There's something going on there... ) While I DO support a nerf, don't overdo it. Look at the Flaylock Pistol. That thing was WAY overpowered. They nerfed it so hard that it's probably the least used sidearm now. A nerf is needed, but don't make it a ridiculous one. It should be just as effective as any other play style. So let me get this right. You play to the suit's and weapon's strengths, getting in close to deal with enemies. This makes it overpowered?
Might as well call for all sniper rifles to be removed, because snipers can't be countered from 400m away with a GEK.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3067
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:40:00 -
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Their is one opperative sentence their that shows exactly why it doesn't need a nerf. I'll even highlight it for you.
Quote:I can kill anyone, IF I CAN MANAGE TO GET CLOSE TO THEM.
That one little sentence changes everything. You are a:
Slow Immobile Large Hitbox
waddling free kill to anyone with the tactical sense to get you at about 35m or further. Your accuracy at that range is so poor, in order to do more than 5 DPS you must 1) STOP, making yourself and easy target. 2) CROUCH, putting your head hotbox at central mass 3) ADS, making it even easier for you to be flanked completly
Now if you had a fast ROF, high DPS, weapon with a range lonnger than my forearm, then I would undoubtedly agree that Heavies would need a nerf, but all they have is a forge gun, which is only any good if you have the skill and patience to lead your target or find someone standing still.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
134
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Posted - 2014.07.16 22:15:00 -
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I agree. I feel like a scumbag using a heavy ripping people apart with an HMG it's easy to use and doesn't require any skill to use. Same goes for the RR. |
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
524
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Posted - 2014.07.16 22:24:00 -
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Boot Booter wrote:Dudes... Hmg is getting nerfed. End of story.
It's only getting an overheat added to it....so nothing much really. Not even sure if it'll affect the HMG.
"One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only mk.0 Scouts do ... wait... I'm still outclassed by Gal scouts.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3067
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Posted - 2014.07.16 22:27:00 -
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Bormir1r wrote:Boot Booter wrote:Dudes... Hmg is getting nerfed. End of story. It's only getting an overheat added to it....so nothing much really. Not even sure if it'll affect the HMG.
It'll stop people carving through 20 people at a time, they'll only manage 19 before overheat.
It'll stop people literally just holding down the trigger till everything is dead, it currently takes 146 shots to overheat my MLT HMG, I imagine it'll drop to around 110 ish?
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
1130
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Posted - 2014.07.16 22:31:00 -
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If you use the HMG like it's meant to be used then the heat build up will effect you pretty badly. That lock up is a real b!tch that takes longer to cool off than it does to reload the HMG.
Can't say I'm all that surprised.
I've been drinking and may be drunk.... probably like most dust players.
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SAIRAX SIS
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
112
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Posted - 2014.07.16 22:34:00 -
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No. Sentinels are fine. HMG is OP.
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