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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
566
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Posted - 2014.07.16 03:12:00 -
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There was nothing else in sight; only my dropship vs a Caldari assault on foot. Yes, I let him do it. But I was so awestruck by this insatiable curiosity, "my god, can a rail rifle take down a dropship?"
I couldn't help but hypnotically watch my dropship shield and armor waste away as the soldier on the ground pelted my bird with small arms fire until the alarm blared and my ship burst into flames.
3 Clips and he finished it off.
Yes I dismounted and made quick work of him.
So now you know.
A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
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usuckatdust Vagheitan
Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance
122
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Posted - 2014.07.16 03:26:00 -
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Clone D wrote:There was nothing else in sight; only my dropship vs a Caldari assault on foot. Yes, I let him do it. But I was so awestruck by this insatiable curiosity, "my god, can a rail rifle take down a dropship?"
I couldn't help but hypnotically watch my dropship shield and armor waste away as the soldier on the ground pelted my bird with small arms fire until the alarm blared and my ship burst into flames.
3 Clips and he finished it off.
Yes I dismounted and made quick work of him.
So now you know.
Well since the only weapon I run is a rail rifle. I can tell u that my kal rr doesn't hurt shields on a drop ship at all. And an armor based drop ship like gorgon or incubus won't really take armor damage from a rr either
But, for some reason you manage to see a viper or python with no shields. The rr will melt that armor just like a dropsuit, and from a decent distance also. |
Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1726
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Posted - 2014.07.16 03:55:00 -
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Yeah if its in armor, what's your point? |
Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10541
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Posted - 2014.07.16 04:33:00 -
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And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot..
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2131
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:48:00 -
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With the 1/10 Malus against vehicles, the RR does not have enough total damage with every single bullet it has to take down a Dropship, much less accounting for your shields which will not stop regening under small arms fire
5/10 troll
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
567
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:51:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:With the 1/10 Malus against vehicles, the RR does not have enough total damage with every single bullet it has to take down a Dropship, much less accounting for your shields which will not stop regening under small arms fire
5/10 troll
Well, it fired slowly like a rail rifle. I didn't get a good look at it when I took him out, since I think he had swapped to his sidearm. It seemed uber powerful, whatever it was.
Any ideas on what weapon could take down a drop ship? I was wondering if I correctly identified the rifle.
A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2131
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Posted - 2014.07.16 05:52:00 -
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Was it a Forge Gun? It is a Hybrid Rail.
Maybe a small rail turret.
Anywho, the weapons that an infantryman can carry that will damage you are: Locus Grenades (Barely) Flux Grenades AV grenades
REs (Actualkly got a low-flying derpship once with proxes)
Mass Drivers (Barely) Flaylocks (Barely) Swarm Launchers Plasma Cannons
Forge Guns HMGs (Barely)
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
568
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Posted - 2014.07.16 06:04:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Was it a Forge Gun? It is a Hybrid Rail. Maybe a small rail turret. Anywho, the weapons that an infantryman can carry that will damage you are: Locus Grenades (Barely) Flux Grenades AV grenades REs (Actualkly got a low-flying derpship once with proxes) Mass Drivers (Barely) Flaylocks (Barely) Swarm Launchers Plasma Cannons Forge Guns HMGs (Barely)
He didn't start with any grenades. The entire time he was firing at me with his rifle. I'm pretty certain from the slow rate of fire that it was a RR variant of some kind. Maybe he damage mod tanked or something. I was flying a MLT Gorgon and was hovering overhead approx 10-15 meters above him.
His suit looked like a Caldari assault so I don't think he was leveraging the +2% dmg per lvl bonus of the commando suit, and he was easy enough to dispatch.
Whatever his weapon was, it took him 3 clips and he stood there and fired straight at me the entire time with the same rifle.
A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2131
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Posted - 2014.07.16 06:09:00 -
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A MLT Gorgon has what, 3000 EHP at least, so this guy did 30,000 light weapon damage then which is 10,000 damage per clip?
I just don't see how it's possible, even with engine shots. Maybe a large blaster was not rendering properly (I've had it happen to me before) and was helping, or some sneaky HMG or Sml-Rail guy, as any infantry light weapon not designed for AV will find it literally impossible to down an intact vehicle without help, due to the weapon type malus.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
568
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Posted - 2014.07.16 06:17:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:A MLT Gorgon has what, 3000 EHP at least, so this guy did 30,000 light weapon damage then which is 10,000 damage per clip?
I just don't see how it's possible, even with engine shots. Maybe a large blaster was not rendering properly (I've had it happen to me before) and was helping, or some sneaky HMG or Sml-Rail guy, as any infantry light weapon not designed for AV will find it literally impossible to down an intact vehicle without help, due to the weapon type malus.
I don't understand your translation of 3000 Vehicle EHP to 30,000 light weapon damage.
It's possible that something wasn't rendering properly, or that some distant weapon was hitting me, however I will say that the slow steady flashes of his weapon matched the damage rate as I watched my shield meter and armor meter plummet to zero. It blew my mind, which is why I let him do it. I was like, "I gotta get me one of those."
A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2133
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Posted - 2014.07.16 06:22:00 -
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Clone D wrote:I don't understand your translation of 3000 Vehicle EHP to 30,000 light weapon damage.
When you aim any weapon at a normal location on a vehicle, and it is not one of the weapons I listed earlier, you will do only 10% normal damage, hence me multiplying all numbers by ten,
Example, a RR will have a 90% efficiency versus shields and 110% versus armor, or if against a vehicle or installation it will change to 9% versus shields and 11% versus armor.
You can test this out yourself by aiming at a vehicle you called yourself, a great way to find where to aim at vehicles for the "extra damage" sweetspots by paying attention to when your efficiency numbers change.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10542
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Posted - 2014.07.16 06:23:00 -
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Clone D wrote: I don't understand your translation of 3000 Vehicle EHP to 30,000 light weapon damage.
Rail Rifles have a 95% damage reduction against vehicles.
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
568
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Posted - 2014.07.16 06:28:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:A MLT Gorgon has what, 3000 EHP at least, so this guy did 30,000 light weapon damage then which is 10,000 damage per clip?
I just don't see how it's possible, even with engine shots. Maybe a large blaster was not rendering properly (I've had it happen to me before) and was helping, or some sneaky HMG or Sml-Rail guy, as any infantry light weapon not designed for AV will find it literally impossible to down an intact vehicle without help, due to the weapon type malus. I don't understand your translation of 3000 Vehicle EHP to 30,000 light weapon damage. It's possible that something wasn't rendering properly, or that some distant weapon was hitting me, however I will say that the slow steady flashes of his weapon matched the damage rate as I watched my shield meter and armor meter plummet to zero. It blew my mind, which is why I let him do it. I was like, "I gotta get me one of those."
Something else: the reason why I thought that it was only he who was attacking my ship was because when he stopped to change clips, I didn't perceive any damage.
The rate of fire of the weapon visually appeared to be 3 or 4 rounds per second. It was long like a RR and had a yellow flash. Could it have been a damage modded breach something or other?
A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2136
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Posted - 2014.07.16 07:15:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Something else: the reason why I thought that it was only he who was attacking my ship was because when he stopped to change clips, I didn't perceive any damage.
The rate of fire of the weapon visually appeared to be 3 or 4 rounds per second. It was long like a RR and had a yellow flash. Could it have been a damage modded breach something or other?
Yellow flash does suggest an AR, likely indeed a Breach AR, but again unless it was a freak glitch the weapon could not have done this itself even with maxed prof and 5 complex d-mods on a commando.
You can always try this yourself, of course
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
39
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:06:00 -
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Atiim wrote:And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. You're bad at everything, that's why you're one of the engineers of the nerf train. |
Ryme Intrinseca
The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo
1509
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:15:00 -
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Presumably you were being hit by an enemy large turret or small rail simultenously. May be that it was on cool down just as the RR reloaded. |
Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION
120
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:23:00 -
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usuckatdust Vagheitan wrote:Clone D wrote:There was nothing else in sight; only my dropship vs a Caldari assault on foot. Yes, I let him do it. But I was so awestruck by this insatiable curiosity, "my god, can a rail rifle take down a dropship?"
I couldn't help but hypnotically watch my dropship shield and armor waste away as the soldier on the ground pelted my bird with small arms fire until the alarm blared and my ship burst into flames.
3 Clips and he finished it off.
Yes I dismounted and made quick work of him.
So now you know.
Well since the only weapon I run is a rail rifle. I can tell u that my kal rr doesn't hurt shields on a drop ship at all. And an armor based drop ship like gorgon or incubus won't really take armor damage from a rr either But, for some reason you manage to see a viper or python with no shields. The rr will melt that armor just like a dropsuit, and from a decent distance also.
The reason why it works on a shield based dropship is because 1) it has lower armour than an armour based dropship 2) it has no armour regen (unless it has a rep on it), and it has no regen/damage threshold to bypass when without a repper.
My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.
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Ryme Intrinseca
The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo
1510
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:30:00 -
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Temias Mercurial wrote:usuckatdust Vagheitan wrote:Clone D wrote:There was nothing else in sight; only my dropship vs a Caldari assault on foot. Yes, I let him do it. But I was so awestruck by this insatiable curiosity, "my god, can a rail rifle take down a dropship?"
I couldn't help but hypnotically watch my dropship shield and armor waste away as the soldier on the ground pelted my bird with small arms fire until the alarm blared and my ship burst into flames.
3 Clips and he finished it off.
Yes I dismounted and made quick work of him.
So now you know.
Well since the only weapon I run is a rail rifle. I can tell u that my kal rr doesn't hurt shields on a drop ship at all. And an armor based drop ship like gorgon or incubus won't really take armor damage from a rr either But, for some reason you manage to see a viper or python with no shields. The rr will melt that armor just like a dropsuit, and from a decent distance also. The reason why it works on a shield based dropship is because 1) it has lower armour than an armour based dropship 2) it has no armour regen (unless it has a rep on it), and it has no regen/damage threshold to bypass when without a repper. Only problem is the OP claimed that shield as well as armour was ripped away by the RR. I don't believe this and think there must have been an additional source of DPS. |
Clone D
Grundstein Automation
569
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:33:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Presumably you were being hit by an enemy large turret or small rail simultenously. May be that it was on cool down just as the RR reloaded.
Yes, it's such an unlikely coincidence, but that must have been the case.
Thanks everyone for your input and helping me resolve this enigma. I was so shocked by this apparent freak event.
Special thanks to Xocoyol Zaraoul who also suggested this possibility early on and provided scads of additional info!
A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
28
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:43:00 -
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Atiim wrote:And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. seriously dude got downed by a rr..i officially dont feel like the biggest scrub in the air..and i have a 6/0 immediate flip over and crash record with dropships
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
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OliX PRZESMIEWCA
Bezimienni...
140
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:02:00 -
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Blaster Tank, Blaster Instalation or rail turrets (small ones). The last bullet your dropship get was from infantry rail rifle. **** happens, Once I hacked instalation and start killing blues from it. Info shows that I'm killing with Recruit Assault Rifle (wich I don't own), not railgun instalation.
I'm pretty sure that it was some kind of render problem. |
Harpyja
Legio DXIV
2090
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:46:00 -
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Atiim wrote:And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. He said he let the person do it. God Atiim, you keep twisting things so they always benefit you without any respect to what the person who said it meant.
"By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32
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Harpyja
Legio DXIV
2090
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:49:00 -
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OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote:Blaster Tank, Blaster Instalation or rail turrets (small ones). The last bullet your dropship get was from infantry rail rifle. **** happens, Once I hacked instalation and start killing blues from it. Info shows that I'm killing with Recruit Assault Rifle (wich I don't own), not railgun instalation.
I'm pretty sure that it was some kind of render problem. I know that if a dropship explodes with a player inside, the killfeed will show the player and their weapon that got the last shot before it exploded, not the person who put it into 0 armor.
But also Caldari dropships have 0 small arms resistance on armor so all light weapons have regular efficiency against it.
"By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
3130
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Posted - 2014.07.16 13:57:00 -
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Wow... 8/10 for eliciting so many serious responses.
Very subtle... its like a ninja troll thread. |
Clone D
Grundstein Automation
571
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Posted - 2014.07.16 14:24:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Atiim wrote:And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. He said he let the person do it. God Atiim, you keep twisting things so they always benefit you without any respect to what the person who said it meant.
It's cool. We love Atiim.
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
571
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Posted - 2014.07.16 14:34:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Wow... 8/10 for eliciting so many serious responses.
Very subtle... its like a ninja troll thread.
Thanks for the admiration ZDub, but I was honestly initially convinced that it was the foot soldier who destroyed my Gorgon and was seriously wondering which weapon he used to do it.
It was one of those games where there are like 5 people on the other team and I was really just hovering around looking for some action and then it happened and a trickle of melted brain dripped out of my ears.
A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10552
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Posted - 2014.07.16 16:28:00 -
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DontChimpOut wrote:Atiim wrote:And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. You're bad at everything, that's why you're one of the engineers of the nerf train. The only nerf I've ever campaigned for is a vehicle nerf. And when you've got stuff like this driving (or flying) around, any sane player with an IQ greater than 10 would.
Though that's kinda funny coming from you Spkr.
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gauntlet44 LbowDeep
Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance
89
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Posted - 2014.07.16 16:53:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Clone D wrote:I don't understand your translation of 3000 Vehicle EHP to 30,000 light weapon damage. When you aim any weapon at a normal location on a vehicle, and it is not one of the weapons I listed earlier, you will do only 10% normal damage, hence me multiplying all numbers by ten, Example, a RR will have a 90% efficiency versus shields and 110% versus armor, or if against a vehicle or installation it will change to 9% versus shields and 11% versus armor. You can test this out yourself by aiming at a vehicle you called yourself, a great way to find where to aim at vehicles for the "extra damage" sweetspots by paying attention to when your efficiency numbers change.
like the head shot for suits, but on vehicles
Absorb what is useful,
discard what is not,
make it uniquely your own........ Bruce Lee
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
10553
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Posted - 2014.07.16 16:59:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Atiim wrote:And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. He said he let the person do it. God Atiim, you keep twisting things so they always benefit you without any respect to what the person who said it meant. Sorry.
I kinda skimmed through the OP.
The Snack That Smiles Back, Tankers!
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Harpyja
Legio DXIV
2092
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Posted - 2014.07.16 18:31:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Harpyja wrote:Atiim wrote:And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. He said he let the person do it. God Atiim, you keep twisting things so they always benefit you without any respect to what the person who said it meant. Sorry. I kinda skimmed through the OP. Classic Atiim
"By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32
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Zelda Harkinian
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
110
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Posted - 2014.07.16 18:34:00 -
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she/ he probably had help. Whenever I see a tank shooting at an installation or vehicle I shoot with my rifle also. Sometimes (if I'm very very lucky) I'm the one to do the last 1-2 hp points of damage and I get the kill while the other person gets an assist. lol.
But yeah, there was probably something shooting you from another part of the map. Sucky. |
DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
40
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:06:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Harpyja wrote:Atiim wrote:And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. He said he let the person do it. God Atiim, you keep twisting things so they always benefit you without any respect to what the person who said it meant. It's cool. We love Atiim. We love him like we'd love a case of AIDS. |
TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
203
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:46:00 -
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Clone D wrote:There was nothing else in sight; only my dropship vs a Caldari assault on foot. Yes, I let him do it. But I was so awestruck by this insatiable curiosity, "my god, can a rail rifle take down a dropship?"
I couldn't help but hypnotically watch my dropship shield and armor waste away as the soldier on the ground pelted my bird with small arms fire until the alarm blared and my ship burst into flames.
3 Clips and he finished it off.
Yes I dismounted and made quick work of him.
So now you know.
Since you were going to let them shoot you down, you should of just let yourself die in the dropship, that would of easily let you know what was actually shooting you. |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3067
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Posted - 2014.07.16 22:39:00 -
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I think it's a glitch, I have been at the flight ceiling, so far in my own redline, that another redline turned up. And I started taking damage, it felt sounded like I was being pelted with a rifle of sorts.
It dropped my shields so I flew beneath my MCC to recall my craft, the damge stopped at 20m altitude I had 75% of my armour left. There was nothing nearby and I wasn't shot at while recalling.
My next craft didn't suffer from the same problem, but if it happens again I'm gonna submit a support ticket. Hope that helps explain it? Maybe?
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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Temias Mercurial
Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION
123
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Posted - 2014.07.16 22:57:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:I think it's a glitch, I have been at the flight ceiling, so far in my own redline, that another redline turned up. And I started taking damage, it felt sounded like I was being pelted with a rifle of sorts. It dropped my shields so I flew beneath my MCC to recall my craft, the damge stopped at 20m altitude I had 75% of my armour left. There was nothing nearby and I wasn't shot at while recalling. My next craft didn't suffer from the same problem, but if it happens again I'm gonna submit a support ticket. Hope that helps explain it? Maybe?
Never heard of that happening before...
My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2147
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Posted - 2014.07.16 23:44:00 -
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Ninja Incubus with a blaster?
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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