DUST Search - A Guy Just Reduced My Dropship To Rubble With A Rail Rifle?

Temias Mercurial wrote:

usuckatdust Vagheitan wrote:

Clone D wrote:

There was nothing else in sight; only my dropship vs a Caldari assault on foot. Yes, I let him do it. But I was so awestruck by this insatiable curiosity, "my god, can a rail rifle take down a dropship?"

I couldn't help but hypnotically watch my dropship shield and armor waste away as the soldier on the ground pelted my bird with small arms fire until the alarm blared and my ship burst into flames.

3 Clips and he finished it off.

Yes I dismounted and made quick work of him.

So now you know.

Well since the only weapon I run is a rail rifle. I can tell u that my kal rr doesn't hurt shields on a drop ship at all. And an armor based drop ship like gorgon or incubus won't really take armor damage from a rr either

But, for some reason you manage to see a viper or python with no shields. The rr will melt that armor just like a dropsuit, and from a decent distance also.

The reason why it works on a shield based dropship is because 1) it has lower armour than an armour based dropship 2) it has no armour regen (unless it has a rep on it), and it has no regen/damage threshold to bypass when without a repper.

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Clone D Grundstein Automation 566	Posted - 2014.07.16 03:12:00 - [1] - Quote There was nothing else in sight; only my dropship vs a Caldari assault on foot. Yes, I let him do it. But I was so awestruck by this insatiable curiosity, "my god, can a rail rifle take down a dropship?" I couldn't help but hypnotically watch my dropship shield and armor waste away as the soldier on the ground pelted my bird with small arms fire until the alarm blared and my ship burst into flames. 3 Clips and he finished it off. Yes I dismounted and made quick work of him. So now you know. A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
usuckatdust Vagheitan Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 122	Posted - 2014.07.16 03:26:00 - [2] - Quote Clone D wrote: There was nothing else in sight; only my dropship vs a Caldari assault on foot. Yes, I let him do it. But I was so awestruck by this insatiable curiosity, "my god, can a rail rifle take down a dropship?" I couldn't help but hypnotically watch my dropship shield and armor waste away as the soldier on the ground pelted my bird with small arms fire until the alarm blared and my ship burst into flames. 3 Clips and he finished it off. Yes I dismounted and made quick work of him. So now you know. Well since the only weapon I run is a rail rifle. I can tell u that my kal rr doesn't hurt shields on a drop ship at all. And an armor based drop ship like gorgon or incubus won't really take armor damage from a rr either But, for some reason you manage to see a viper or python with no shields. The rr will melt that armor just like a dropsuit, and from a decent distance also.
Pvt Numnutz Prophets of the Velocirapture 1726	Posted - 2014.07.16 03:55:00 - [3] - Quote Yeah if its in armor, what's your point?
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10541	Posted - 2014.07.16 04:33:00 - [4] - Quote And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. The Snack That Smiles Back, Tankers! -HAND
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2131	Posted - 2014.07.16 05:48:00 - [5] - Quote With the 1/10 Malus against vehicles, the RR does not have enough total damage with every single bullet it has to take down a Dropship, much less accounting for your shields which will not stop regening under small arms fire 5/10 troll "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Clone D Grundstein Automation 567	Posted - 2014.07.16 05:51:00 - [6] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: With the 1/10 Malus against vehicles, the RR does not have enough total damage with every single bullet it has to take down a Dropship, much less accounting for your shields which will not stop regening under small arms fire 5/10 troll Well, it fired slowly like a rail rifle. I didn't get a good look at it when I took him out, since I think he had swapped to his sidearm. It seemed uber powerful, whatever it was. Any ideas on what weapon could take down a drop ship? I was wondering if I correctly identified the rifle. A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2131	Posted - 2014.07.16 05:52:00 - [7] - Quote Was it a Forge Gun? It is a Hybrid Rail. Maybe a small rail turret. Anywho, the weapons that an infantryman can carry that will damage you are: Locus Grenades (Barely) Flux Grenades AV grenades REs (Actualkly got a low-flying derpship once with proxes) Mass Drivers (Barely) Flaylocks (Barely) Swarm Launchers Plasma Cannons Forge Guns HMGs (Barely) "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Clone D Grundstein Automation 568	Posted - 2014.07.16 06:04:00 - [8] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Was it a Forge Gun? It is a Hybrid Rail. Maybe a small rail turret. Anywho, the weapons that an infantryman can carry that will damage you are: Locus Grenades (Barely) Flux Grenades AV grenades REs (Actualkly got a low-flying derpship once with proxes) Mass Drivers (Barely) Flaylocks (Barely) Swarm Launchers Plasma Cannons Forge Guns HMGs (Barely) He didn't start with any grenades. The entire time he was firing at me with his rifle. I'm pretty certain from the slow rate of fire that it was a RR variant of some kind. Maybe he damage mod tanked or something. I was flying a MLT Gorgon and was hovering overhead approx 10-15 meters above him. His suit looked like a Caldari assault so I don't think he was leveraging the +2% dmg per lvl bonus of the commando suit, and he was easy enough to dispatch. Whatever his weapon was, it took him 3 clips and he stood there and fired straight at me the entire time with the same rifle. A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2131	Posted - 2014.07.16 06:09:00 - [9] - Quote A MLT Gorgon has what, 3000 EHP at least, so this guy did 30,000 light weapon damage then which is 10,000 damage per clip? I just don't see how it's possible, even with engine shots. Maybe a large blaster was not rendering properly (I've had it happen to me before) and was helping, or some sneaky HMG or Sml-Rail guy, as any infantry light weapon not designed for AV will find it literally impossible to down an intact vehicle without help, due to the weapon type malus. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Clone D Grundstein Automation 568	Posted - 2014.07.16 06:17:00 - [10] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: A MLT Gorgon has what, 3000 EHP at least, so this guy did 30,000 light weapon damage then which is 10,000 damage per clip? I just don't see how it's possible, even with engine shots. Maybe a large blaster was not rendering properly (I've had it happen to me before) and was helping, or some sneaky HMG or Sml-Rail guy, as any infantry light weapon not designed for AV will find it literally impossible to down an intact vehicle without help, due to the weapon type malus. I don't understand your translation of 3000 Vehicle EHP to 30,000 light weapon damage. It's possible that something wasn't rendering properly, or that some distant weapon was hitting me, however I will say that the slow steady flashes of his weapon matched the damage rate as I watched my shield meter and armor meter plummet to zero. It blew my mind, which is why I let him do it. I was like, "I gotta get me one of those." A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.

Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2133	Posted - 2014.07.16 06:22:00 - [11] - Quote Clone D wrote: I don't understand your translation of 3000 Vehicle EHP to 30,000 light weapon damage. When you aim any weapon at a normal location on a vehicle, and it is not one of the weapons I listed earlier, you will do only 10% normal damage, hence me multiplying all numbers by ten, Example, a RR will have a 90% efficiency versus shields and 110% versus armor, or if against a vehicle or installation it will change to 9% versus shields and 11% versus armor. You can test this out yourself by aiming at a vehicle you called yourself, a great way to find where to aim at vehicles for the "extra damage" sweetspots by paying attention to when your efficiency numbers change. "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10542	Posted - 2014.07.16 06:23:00 - [12] - Quote Clone D wrote: I don't understand your translation of 3000 Vehicle EHP to 30,000 light weapon damage. Rail Rifles have a 95% damage reduction against vehicles. The Snack That Smiles Back, Tankers! -HAND
Clone D Grundstein Automation 568	Posted - 2014.07.16 06:28:00 - [13] - Quote Clone D wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: A MLT Gorgon has what, 3000 EHP at least, so this guy did 30,000 light weapon damage then which is 10,000 damage per clip? I just don't see how it's possible, even with engine shots. Maybe a large blaster was not rendering properly (I've had it happen to me before) and was helping, or some sneaky HMG or Sml-Rail guy, as any infantry light weapon not designed for AV will find it literally impossible to down an intact vehicle without help, due to the weapon type malus. I don't understand your translation of 3000 Vehicle EHP to 30,000 light weapon damage. It's possible that something wasn't rendering properly, or that some distant weapon was hitting me, however I will say that the slow steady flashes of his weapon matched the damage rate as I watched my shield meter and armor meter plummet to zero. It blew my mind, which is why I let him do it. I was like, "I gotta get me one of those." Something else: the reason why I thought that it was only he who was attacking my ship was because when he stopped to change clips, I didn't perceive any damage. The rate of fire of the weapon visually appeared to be 3 or 4 rounds per second. It was long like a RR and had a yellow flash. Could it have been a damage modded breach something or other? A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2136	Posted - 2014.07.16 07:15:00 - [14] - Quote Clone D wrote: Something else: the reason why I thought that it was only he who was attacking my ship was because when he stopped to change clips, I didn't perceive any damage. The rate of fire of the weapon visually appeared to be 3 or 4 rounds per second. It was long like a RR and had a yellow flash. Could it have been a damage modded breach something or other? Yellow flash does suggest an AR, likely indeed a Breach AR, but again unless it was a freak glitch the weapon could not have done this itself even with maxed prof and 5 complex d-mods on a commando. You can always try this yourself, of course "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
DontChimpOut Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 39	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:06:00 - [15] - Quote Atiim wrote: And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. You're bad at everything, that's why you're one of the engineers of the nerf train.
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1509	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:15:00 - [16] - Quote Presumably you were being hit by an enemy large turret or small rail simultenously. May be that it was on cool down just as the RR reloaded.
Temias Mercurial Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 120	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:23:00 - [17] - Quote usuckatdust Vagheitan wrote: Clone D wrote: There was nothing else in sight; only my dropship vs a Caldari assault on foot. Yes, I let him do it. But I was so awestruck by this insatiable curiosity, "my god, can a rail rifle take down a dropship?" I couldn't help but hypnotically watch my dropship shield and armor waste away as the soldier on the ground pelted my bird with small arms fire until the alarm blared and my ship burst into flames. 3 Clips and he finished it off. Yes I dismounted and made quick work of him. So now you know. Well since the only weapon I run is a rail rifle. I can tell u that my kal rr doesn't hurt shields on a drop ship at all. And an armor based drop ship like gorgon or incubus won't really take armor damage from a rr either But, for some reason you manage to see a viper or python with no shields. The rr will melt that armor just like a dropsuit, and from a decent distance also. The reason why it works on a shield based dropship is because 1) it has lower armour than an armour based dropship 2) it has no armour regen (unless it has a rep on it), and it has no regen/damage threshold to bypass when without a repper. My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1510	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:30:00 - [18] - Quote Temias Mercurial wrote: usuckatdust Vagheitan wrote: Clone D wrote: There was nothing else in sight; only my dropship vs a Caldari assault on foot. Yes, I let him do it. But I was so awestruck by this insatiable curiosity, "my god, can a rail rifle take down a dropship?" I couldn't help but hypnotically watch my dropship shield and armor waste away as the soldier on the ground pelted my bird with small arms fire until the alarm blared and my ship burst into flames. 3 Clips and he finished it off. Yes I dismounted and made quick work of him. So now you know. Well since the only weapon I run is a rail rifle. I can tell u that my kal rr doesn't hurt shields on a drop ship at all. And an armor based drop ship like gorgon or incubus won't really take armor damage from a rr either But, for some reason you manage to see a viper or python with no shields. The rr will melt that armor just like a dropsuit, and from a decent distance also. The reason why it works on a shield based dropship is because 1) it has lower armour than an armour based dropship 2) it has no armour regen (unless it has a rep on it), and it has no regen/damage threshold to bypass when without a repper. Only problem is the OP claimed that shield as well as armour was ripped away by the RR. I don't believe this and think there must have been an additional source of DPS.
Clone D Grundstein Automation 569	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:33:00 - [19] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Presumably you were being hit by an enemy large turret or small rail simultenously. May be that it was on cool down just as the RR reloaded. Yes, it's such an unlikely coincidence, but that must have been the case. Thanks everyone for your input and helping me resolve this enigma. I was so shocked by this apparent freak event. Special thanks to Xocoyol Zaraoul who also suggested this possibility early on and provided scads of additional info! A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 28	Posted - 2014.07.16 12:43:00 - [20] - Quote Atiim wrote: And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. seriously dude got downed by a rr..i officially dont feel like the biggest scrub in the air..and i have a 6/0 immediate flip over and crash record with dropships no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave

OliX PRZESMIEWCA Bezimienni... 140	Posted - 2014.07.16 13:02:00 - [21] - Quote Blaster Tank, Blaster Instalation or rail turrets (small ones). The last bullet your dropship get was from infantry rail rifle. **** happens, Once I hacked instalation and start killing blues from it. Info shows that I'm killing with Recruit Assault Rifle (wich I don't own), not railgun instalation. I'm pretty sure that it was some kind of render problem.
Harpyja Legio DXIV 2090	Posted - 2014.07.16 13:46:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. He said he let the person do it. God Atiim, you keep twisting things so they always benefit you without any respect to what the person who said it meant. "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32
Harpyja Legio DXIV 2090	Posted - 2014.07.16 13:49:00 - [23] - Quote OliX PRZESMIEWCA wrote: Blaster Tank, Blaster Instalation or rail turrets (small ones). The last bullet your dropship get was from infantry rail rifle. **** happens, Once I hacked instalation and start killing blues from it. Info shows that I'm killing with Recruit Assault Rifle (wich I don't own), not railgun instalation. I'm pretty sure that it was some kind of render problem. I know that if a dropship explodes with a player inside, the killfeed will show the player and their weapon that got the last shot before it exploded, not the person who put it into 0 armor. But also Caldari dropships have 0 small arms resistance on armor so all light weapons have regular efficiency against it. "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32
ZDub 303 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 3130	Posted - 2014.07.16 13:57:00 - [24] - Quote Wow... 8/10 for eliciting so many serious responses. Very subtle... its like a ninja troll thread.
Clone D Grundstein Automation 571	Posted - 2014.07.16 14:24:00 - [25] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Atiim wrote: And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. He said he let the person do it. God Atiim, you keep twisting things so they always benefit you without any respect to what the person who said it meant. It's cool. We love Atiim. A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
Clone D Grundstein Automation 571	Posted - 2014.07.16 14:34:00 - [26] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: Wow... 8/10 for eliciting so many serious responses. Very subtle... its like a ninja troll thread. Thanks for the admiration ZDub, but I was honestly initially convinced that it was the foot soldier who destroyed my Gorgon and was seriously wondering which weapon he used to do it. It was one of those games where there are like 5 people on the other team and I was really just hovering around looking for some action and then it happened and a trickle of melted brain dripped out of my ears. A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10552	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:28:00 - [27] - Quote DontChimpOut wrote: Atiim wrote: And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. You're bad at everything, that's why you're one of the engineers of the nerf train. The only nerf I've ever campaigned for is a vehicle nerf. And when you've got stuff like this driving (or flying) around, any sane player with an IQ greater than 10 would. Though that's kinda funny coming from you Spkr. The Snack That Smiles Back, Tankers! -HAND
gauntlet44 LbowDeep Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance 89	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:53:00 - [28] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: Clone D wrote: I don't understand your translation of 3000 Vehicle EHP to 30,000 light weapon damage. When you aim any weapon at a normal location on a vehicle, and it is not one of the weapons I listed earlier, you will do only 10% normal damage, hence me multiplying all numbers by ten, Example, a RR will have a 90% efficiency versus shields and 110% versus armor, or if against a vehicle or installation it will change to 9% versus shields and 11% versus armor. You can test this out yourself by aiming at a vehicle you called yourself, a great way to find where to aim at vehicles for the "extra damage" sweetspots by paying attention to when your efficiency numbers change. like the head shot for suits, but on vehicles Absorb what is useful, discard what is not, make it uniquely your own........ Bruce Lee
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10553	Posted - 2014.07.16 16:59:00 - [29] - Quote Harpyja wrote: Atiim wrote: And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. He said he let the person do it. God Atiim, you keep twisting things so they always benefit you without any respect to what the person who said it meant. Sorry. I kinda skimmed through the OP. The Snack That Smiles Back, Tankers! -HAND
Harpyja Legio DXIV 2092	Posted - 2014.07.16 18:31:00 - [30] - Quote Atiim wrote: Harpyja wrote: Atiim wrote: And I thought I was a bad Dropship Pilot.. He said he let the person do it. God Atiim, you keep twisting things so they always benefit you without any respect to what the person who said it meant. Sorry. I kinda skimmed through the OP. Classic Atiim "By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32



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