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edguy 111 Never 2 Late 44	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:31:00 - [1] - Quote geez i direct hit a heavy yesterday with a forge gun and he survive...it was using a lv4 assault fg with lv3 pro and the heavy i shot was a adv gallente sentinel. btw i finish him with my smg waaaazzaaaaa!
Leeroy Gannarsein Legio DXIV 466	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:35:00 - [2] - Quote I have an Amarr Assault with 1208 EHP. It would seem like wisdom, but for the warning in my heart... CCP BLOWOUT FOR CPM1
SAIRAX SIS Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 108	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:36:00 - [3] - Quote eHP were the ones obtained at the expense of other parts, eHP is no problem. They have a lot of slots and CPU/PG, resist bonus, these are Excess. yoroshiku ne !pÇÇpÇÇCute Cat NyaoooonpÇÇGÖ¬
calvin b Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 1731	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:54:00 - [4] - Quote edguy 111 wrote: geez i direct hit a heavy yesterday with a forge gun and he survive...it was using a lv4 assault fg with lv3 pro and the heavy i shot was a adv gallente sentinel. btw i finish him with my smg Your joking right. 0/10 fail. The heavy is point defense it supposed to be able take a lot of damage and dish it. Closed Beta Vet and Heavy, so no I am not FOTM I am an Antique
Vesperz D3ATH CARD 86	Posted - 2014.07.15 06:02:00 - [5] - Quote Just shut up. Live by honor, kill by stealth.
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 41	Posted - 2014.07.15 06:04:00 - [6] - Quote edguy 111 wrote: geez i direct hit a heavy yesterday with a forge gun and he survive...it was using a lv4 assault fg with lv3 pro and the heavy i shot was a adv gallente sentinel. btw i finish him with my smg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M Max level brony. My special magic is trolling.
edguy 111 Never 2 Late 43	Posted - 2014.07.15 07:38:00 - [7] - Quote but really you shoot anybody else they go flying across the map.you shoot a ds and he move with the shot but a heavy "hey wait we suppose to tank damage". bs,it a freaking forge gun it shoot a energy ball the size of a lav. waaaazzaaaaa!
Unidentified Caldarian Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 55	Posted - 2014.07.15 07:50:00 - [8] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M Stop it. You're not funny. CCP bans my friend for "Trolling" but not you. Ridiculous. calvin b wrote: Your joking right. 0/10 fail. The heavy is point defense it supposed to be able take a lot of damage and dish it. Yes but 1200 armor? I mean 800 armor is a lot if you know how to use it. "Falsely misquoted in a bible..." - Jett Pezzin
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 42	Posted - 2014.07.15 08:36:00 - [9] - Quote Unidentified Caldarian wrote: JRleo jr wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FopyRHHlt3M Stop it. You're not funny. CCP bans my friend for "Trolling" but not you. Ridiculous. calvin b wrote: Your joking right. 0/10 fail. The heavy is point defense it supposed to be able take a lot of damage and dish it. Yes but 1200 armor? I mean 800 armor is a lot if you know how to use it. oh... Max level brony. My special magic is trolling.
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 220	Posted - 2014.07.15 08:47:00 - [10] - Quote On my brick tank proto I can easily push 1600-1700 ehp if I'm using plates (not reactive) and no rep mods. So it's not uncommon to survive a hit from a forge. Also you need to factor in a few things: Resistances, Damage Reduction to Shields, Weapon Proficiency, Damage Increase to Armor, Direct Hit vs Splash Damage etc. etc. As for having too much eHP someone stated before that the main role of a sentinel is point defense. Which is why we have the most eHP and best CQC weapon. HOWEVER sentinels are notoriously slow when brick tanking. Yes it is not a good excuse for balance but it does make us a bit more vulnerable especially when crossing open fields. And as our most effective anti-infantry weapon has a max range efficient range of 30 meters (40 if using assault variant) we need to close the gap before we can do enough damage to count. So people with ranged weapons (ie. Combat Rifle, Scrambler Rifle, Rail Rifle and sometimes Plasma Rifle) will have the advantage IF hey can keep us at ranges. Also our turn rate with the HMG is slower than those with light weapons. So it is possible to gank us from behind with a shotgun. Just don't stand still or else you will die a horrible painful death when we manage to turn around. So your argument of Sentinels having too much eHP is invalid. Also this picture makes your argument invalid too. Legionhares Unite!

Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1703	Posted - 2014.07.15 10:51:00 - [11] - Quote https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5xvkAPXB9c
Echo 1991 WarRavens Final Resolution. 353	Posted - 2014.07.15 11:13:00 - [12] - Quote Yeah, heavies are supposed to be able to tank stuff but the resistances are a bit overkill. especially the splash damage resist.
DontChimpOut Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2014.07.15 11:59:00 - [13] - Quote "I can't destroy fast enough for my liking." = it must be nerfed
Mossellia Delt Militaires Sans Jeux 1601	Posted - 2014.07.15 12:09:00 - [14] - Quote The only problem is when these massively brick tanked heavies use an Lav to get around. Delt for CPM1 Moss-delt on skype
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 44	Posted - 2014.07.15 12:55:00 - [15] - Quote Echo 1991 wrote: Yeah, heavies are supposed to be able to tank stuff but the resistances are a bit overkill. especially the splash damage resist. Oh please.....if anything they need to be increased from 15/10% to 25/20% or so, after the brick tanking is fixed of course. Max level brony. My special magic is trolling.
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 22	Posted - 2014.07.15 13:02:00 - [16] - Quote scouts have to much eho and there shotty does to much dmg. no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 906	Posted - 2014.07.15 14:25:00 - [17] - Quote Vesperz wrote: Just shut up. Thank you . You had to be using a heavy suit to use a forge gun as well , so WTH are you talking about ? That's like someone using a scout , while killing scouts and saying , " Scouts are too fast , they can flank too good and that cloak and shotgun whoooooo . " I mean , what's your point ? You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 906	Posted - 2014.07.15 14:27:00 - [18] - Quote Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote: scouts have to much eho and there shotty does to much dmg. ^^^^^ This right here . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 906	Posted - 2014.07.15 14:29:00 - [19] - Quote JRleo jr wrote: Echo 1991 wrote: Yeah, heavies are supposed to be able to tank stuff but the resistances are a bit overkill. especially the splash damage resist. Oh please.....if anything they need to be increased from 15/10% to 25/20% or so, after the brick tanking is fixed of course. I agree , the splash resistance is overblown and not that good so it should be increased a little . I can live with how they are though . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 906	Posted - 2014.07.15 14:31:00 - [20] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: The only problem is when these massively brick tanked heavies use an Lav to get around. That's why , if your in a squad ... have a swarmer with you and protect them like you would a Logi . Swarms and anti-vehicle grenades end that with a job well done . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.

Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2230	Posted - 2014.07.15 14:37:00 - [21] - Quote .............................................
JRleo jr Xer Cloud Consortium 47	Posted - 2014.07.15 15:38:00 - [22] - Quote Bethhy wrote: ............................................. http://i.imgur.com/90BpnTA.png Max level brony. My special magic is trolling.
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 126	Posted - 2014.07.15 15:43:00 - [23] - Quote edguy 111 wrote: geez i direct hit a heavy yesterday with a forge gun and he survive...it was using a lv4 assault fg with lv3 pro and the heavy i shot was a adv gallente sentinel. btw i finish him with my smg hehehehe i laughed at this post. I have a better lets give scouts more hp because i can kill them too easy hows thatjk
Clone D Grundstein Automation 552	Posted - 2014.07.15 15:45:00 - [24] - Quote Mossellia Delt wrote: The only problem is when these massively brick tanked heavies use an Lav to get around. There is one more problem: The fact that there are so many heavies that it is requiring much more ammo nowadays than ever before to survive on the field. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168243 A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected.
Powerh8er The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 473	Posted - 2014.07.15 16:44:00 - [25] - Quote He was probably using an photon sentinel suit.
Will Driver Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 140	Posted - 2014.07.15 17:02:00 - [26] - Quote You're complaining about not being able to 1-hit a Heavy with a Forge gun, even though you say you were able to finish the job with a SMG? If you want to 1-hit your targets, go for easier pickings. Heavies are supposed to have high survivability. Working as intended. GÇ£Creativity is knowing how to hide your sourcesGÇ¥ GÇò Albert Einstein
Kalante Schiffer Ancient Exiles. 653	Posted - 2014.07.15 17:23:00 - [27] - Quote Heavies are fine, its just their HMG that is the problem. It makes no sense that the basic HMG is almost as powerful if not the same as the proto HMG.
Thumb Green The Valyrian Guard 1118	Posted - 2014.07.15 17:27:00 - [28] - Quote Kalante Schiffer wrote: Heavies are fine, its just their HMG that is the problem. It makes no sense that the basic HMG is almost as powerful if not the same as the proto HMG. But that's pretty much how all the weapons are. Can't say I'm all that surprised. I've been drinking and may be drunk.... probably like most dust players.
wiseguy12 Ancient Legion 38	Posted - 2014.07.15 17:31:00 - [29] - Quote Reducing eHP isn't the answer give forge gun a buff to armor *Eye of the Reaper*
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1380	Posted - 2014.07.15 20:06:00 - [30] - Quote Vesperz wrote: Just shut up. Shutupshutupshutup you're going to even make them investigate this you fool!!!! I want my win button! If they fix the heavy because of you, idk what ill do! "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand



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