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JH P Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 7	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:03:00 - [1] - Quote In scale of 1-10 (1 being utter failure and 10 being a great hit) I want a honest opinion from you guys regarding Dust 514's sucess. I know nothing about game marketing/managing/etc so while I have gotten a idea that Dust 514 wasn't a huge success with all the players who are still so eager about the game; it had to have done something right. So please rate away!
Ace Mercenary The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 3	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:09:00 - [2] - Quote 10
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 7760	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:10:00 - [3] - Quote 4 The original King ThunderBolt hate video receiver. XD TFR
Beld Errmon 1780	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:10:00 - [4] - Quote I'd rate it STFU, the forums have enough whining without you giving people another soap box to stand on. Pilot - Tanker - FOTM (insert here)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11853	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:16:00 - [5] - Quote Out of 10? Success being delivering what CCP presented in 2009 and then later at the 2013 Fanfest? 3/10 if I am pushing it..... Now bear in mind that 4 of those missing points could have been achieved by reaching racial parity across the board in Dust 514 AKA giving me my ******* Amarrian HAV....... the others could have been earned by meeting those goals they initially out lined. I'm not going to lie though Dust was not successful that that does not mean I think its a bad game. I love the universe of New Eden, its fantastic, and the potential is incredible..... all CCP needs to do is take what Dust produced and build a solid foundation on that. After they do that they have the time and freedom to produce more content and EVE Legion Links while developing a player base..... those bitter vets who hopefully have their concerns finally addressed and those fresh faced newbies with drawn in by the promise on New Eden. "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Mike De Luca Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 171	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:36:00 - [6] - Quote My honest reaction to this what i think of when charging fg
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 551	Posted - 2014.07.15 04:55:00 - [7] - Quote I give it 5/14ths of a point
Zelda Harkinian Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 95	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:21:00 - [8] - Quote Hmmm... from a game point, I guess an 8/ 10. It doesn't have pve and I'm getting bored of the maps, but it is a really solid shooter and a lot of fun. I would rate it higher if I had more clothing options and color schemes (and could maybe decorate my room). But from a successful point point of view... probably a 3/ 10. CCP isn't making Dust for charity. they need to make money. And since they depend on players like me, I feel bad saying I am not going to buy any packs any time soon. Aurum doesn't seem that appealing, and I'm not going to spend money on something that will last me all of 5 matches before I lose it forever. CCP used to have BPO's for sale. I would pay money for that, especially (!!!!) if the suits had unique color schemes. I love buying clothes dlc, even if they don't do anything in game, so I'm bummed I can't do that with Dust 514. Sad, because I DO want Dust to succeed. (T_T )
Larry Desmo Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2014.07.15 05:41:00 - [9] - Quote im giving it a 4, with the addition of racial vehcles a 5 and possibly a 6 with basic pve and open districts, and .5 points per every 500 additional players per hour added to our curent population up to about 10K and then we would need a different scale
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 336	Posted - 2014.07.15 07:03:00 - [10] - Quote 3/10 commercial success (manly due to lack of advertising, PVE, in-game tutorial, balancing, proto-stomping etc) 9/10 personal success. Bloody good game for people that invest the time to get into it. (Sadly not that many of us, due to the first point )

Glass Bowtie Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 13	Posted - 2014.07.15 07:11:00 - [11] - Quote A scale of 1 to 10 huh? Oh, sorry. Don't mind me, just here for the free coffee. sssssssssssiiiiiiiiiiiiippppppppppp.................
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 1501	Posted - 2014.07.15 07:13:00 - [12] - Quote 11
Unidentified Caldarian Terminal Courtesy Proficiency V. 55	Posted - 2014.07.15 07:15:00 - [13] - Quote To be honest... Dust 514 was very successful because it was a "test" for a better game (Hint hint: Legion). 7/10 only BECAUSE they got enough people to fall for a trap. But without that... you're looking at a 3/10. "Falsely misquoted in a bible..." - Jett Pezzin
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3247	Posted - 2014.07.15 08:24:00 - [14] - Quote 1 they didnt achive a single goal they set out to do in a indurstry acceptable manner You can never have to many chaples -Templar True adamance
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 220	Posted - 2014.07.15 08:35:00 - [15] - Quote 3.9/10 That is for various reasons. It's a great game to play but after a while it becomes very boring as it just becomes an endless grind. I will give it an extra point and bring it up to 4.9/10 for being unique. But that will be removed once Destiny comes out. The community isn't really that great either. Sorry guys but you know it's true. Maybe there are few good people here, but really the shiniest turd in a turd bowl is still a turd. Mind you that's judging the community as a whole including myself. I will give CCP credit for trying but after a while it started to feel like they were beating a dead horse with a stick called 'Balance'. Sure the horse will kick because the nerve endings are still attached and all together, but the horse is dead. I will still play Dust because it is a great game, but it always feels like its lacking. I don't even find any fun running my scout or my logi. Sure I'm not the best player, and I will never claim to be the best (unless I'm drunk, that's right I'm sober right now!) One major upside I will throw in there is the squads and making new friends. But as I said before, people I can get along with in game are few and far between. As True said before, it will make a good base for Legion if they can fix it and I will sit by and patiently wait for Legion while occasionally popping my head into Dust. Legionhares Unite!
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 955	Posted - 2014.07.15 11:03:00 - [16] - Quote 3.5 ccp themselves admitted it wasn't a great game. http://www.polygon.com/2014/5/3/5677566/Dust-514-project-legion-reaction
DontChimpOut Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 32	Posted - 2014.07.15 12:01:00 - [17] - Quote 0/0
Clone D 549	Posted - 2014.07.15 13:08:00 - [18] - Quote I will rate it subjectively from my own perspective of what the game has meant to me. I have had so much fun playing this game. I have never been more irritated than at times when I have played this game. Fittings 9/10 I found it amusing planning ahead for what I could equip in those little boxes before I had maxed my CPU and PG. Minus 1 for having to perform so many manual calculations to get a firm understanding of the ewar etc. capabilities of my build. MCC 5/10 We should be able to interact with the MCC in other ways, like mount an onboard gun, land our dropships in bays, etc. Also, it is parked, but would be cooler if it moved around. Vehicles 10/10 All of the vehicles have their own individual feel. I am impressed with the various personalities of the war machines, whether I'm driving/piloting or taking them down with A/V. Soldiering 9/10 Foot soldier warfare in Dust is gripping and engaging. There are diverse play styles and challenges to overcome and I have never spent a dull moment on the field. While there are technical problems with the gear and servers that cause severe frustration, I rate the intended soldiering experience as nearly exactly what I want from a FPS. We need work on cover and terrain glitches, but the actual soldiering feel is strong. Team Play and Autonomy 10/10 Dust works as a squad based game or for lone wolves. Kudos to CCP for achieving this balance. There are enough communication channels to manage squads or tutor individuals over text/mic. TACNET 5/10 This system for battlefield intel has merit, but the execution is mediocre at best. From stealth tanks to dot aliasing, this system could use a significant overhaul. Game Design 5/10 CCP has created a battlefield theater that allows gamers to express themselves in a variety of ways, experience myriad roles and watch their buddies die repeatedly. They have also created a new fog of war with their convoluted ewar scheme. The mechanics of the game are exceedingly contrived. We have begged to be able to deny revives, we have tolerated the shifting rules of ewar over the various versions, and we have not transposed from the "that was bullsh*t" reaction to "that was believable" response. The game design does not appear to align with the needs of the community as a whole and needs more than tweaks. Server Capabilities 1/10 I have a solid ISP (25 Mbps speed and <1ms jitter), and yet I have never experienced as much lag with anything ever as Dust 514. What the hell? CCP please double the budget for your server health. Jesus Community 5/10 There is a generous amount of hostility in our community. I hope that newcomers are not deterred by the abrasiveness of our interactions. But there is also friendly support to be found here, so thanks everyone for just being who you are. Development Team 3/10 Here's a group of guys who, historically, have needed some training on integration testing, regression testing, user acceptance testing and quality assurance. I have to admit, though, when I deploy to the battlefield and see a pinkish atmosphere and an enormous neighboring planet lingering over the horizon, I am mentally transported to that planet. So, well done on the game setting and look of the game. Also, when nanite injectors work correctly, it feels like I just stuck the guy with a needle, so well done on feel too. But there's certainly a notable degree of neglect concerning the final product: needs a lot more repair and polish. Marketing 2/10 CCP released some strong trailers for this game but didn't live up to the hype. I don't know how much revenue was generated because of this game, but Dust 514 has attracted something of a stigma now. I don't foresee this game making much in the future unless the marketing and business model surrounding it change significantly. IMO we need ways other than microtransactions and boosters to spend money on the game. I personally would like to purchase some BPO goodies or buy some SP because I like paying for semi-permanent things. Overall 6/10 While the game is supremely fun when it works, there are sundry drawbacks and irritants that pull this title down from the one-of-a-kind MMOFPS that it should be. CCP, if you ever revisit Dust 514, I hope you have the technical proficiency and budget to materialize your vision. .
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3088	Posted - 2014.07.15 13:16:00 - [19] - Quote Early beta player myself. Played dust right up until fanfest. Now I am annoyed I missed out on the coh2 beta. If i have to go back to pc gaming it probably won't include legion. game concept : 9/10 management : 1/10 Rick : And remember, this gun is pointed right at your heart. Captain Renault : That is my least vulnerable spot
Jack McReady DUST University Ivy League 1503	Posted - 2014.07.15 14:14:00 - [20] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: 1 they didnt achive a single goal they set out to do in a indurstry acceptable manner this pretty much. the game didnt really changed since the end of closed beta.

Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4991	Posted - 2014.07.15 14:31:00 - [21] - Quote I think Dust 514 has been a complete success. That's only if the goal was to beta test for a different game and disenfranchise thousands of customers so much so that they will never touch a CCP product again, though. If that wasn't the intention, then 2. It would be a 1, but I'm sure I had fun at some point. Back in beta I think. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
GeneralButtNaked Fatal Absolution 1239	Posted - 2014.07.15 14:33:00 - [22] - Quote It was a solid 4/10 until they announced Legion. 0/10 now. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 286	Posted - 2014.07.15 14:37:00 - [23] - Quote Love it, will play it till the Servers crash. 10/10 They could afford to listen polls however from the community. If people are argue, and they put up overwhelming reasons for it, then CCP should at least try it out. If it's adverse, change it. From the Clone Wars I came. Here, I am a man among tamed beasts, and a god...among men. CEO of G0DS AM0NG MEN
GeneralButtNaked Fatal Absolution 1239	Posted - 2014.07.15 14:42:00 - [24] - Quote Regis Blackbird wrote: 9/10 personal success. Bloody good game for people that invest the time to get into it. (Sadly not that many of us, due to the first point ) AKA, I sucked long enough to get enough SP to stomp noobs. Now the game is fun because I have my crutch. You should just sign up for Eve, grab a catalyst and gank carebears, you would fit right in. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
castba Merc-0107 514	Posted - 2014.07.15 14:56:00 - [25] - Quote How can it be anything other than a 1? I do like Dust very much, but when the developer prematurely decides to start over, how can it be seen as anything other than a failure? That said, just imagine if Dust was in its current iteration when it was released. Then marketed appropriately and things like PvE and the Eve link being developed. Hmm, I wonder what the player base would be like as opposed to what it is now.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 2333	Posted - 2014.07.15 14:57:00 - [26] - Quote Will a Tornado do? CPM1 Underdog *Greedy Bastards*
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 126	Posted - 2014.07.15 15:51:00 - [27] - Quote 5
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 2153	Posted - 2014.07.15 16:57:00 - [28] - Quote - Does DUST have the fundamental core mechanics(aiming, movement, hit detection, controls, animations, fidelity, predictability, prioritization of personal skill) to be a solid shooter? No. In fact the flaws in DUST's core mechanics are pretty much a textbook example of a second-rate development process. Core FPS: 3/10. - Does DUST have the core systems of a solid MMO(Corp tools, text and voice comms, socially informative HUD, ability to play with friends, matchmaking, stability, lag, solo play, interactive resource/economy)? To some extent, for some of these systems, yes. But for some not at all. Furthermore, the implementation on the systems we do have is currently in a half-finished state in terms of quality and features. MMO: 4/10. - Does DUST have the feature suite that would make it an involving RPG(character progression, meaningful connection to the lore of New Eden, interesting/meaningful racial choices and roles, balance, NPE, fitting, customization)? Here DUST is at it's best. In the current hotfix environment we are iterating towards this. Again, systems are incomplete but progress is being made with what we do have at hand. RPG: 6/10. - Most importantly in my eyes: the connection and relevance of DUST and it's mercs to/in New Eden. A lot could and has been said about this, so straight to the score: New Eden: 2/10. - Fulfilling the original vision sold to us by CCP: So much is missing, so much works only passably. Still, significant technical back-end groundwork and infrastructure was put in place, even if we cannot reap the full fruits of that work in DUST. Global Execution of the DUST Project: 3/10. - CCP's communication, interaction, treatment of/with the playerbase/betatesters has been poor and generally low grade/unprofessional. There have been exceptions, ofc, but there are far too many instances on these forums of CCP's bad attitude. CCP often chooses the worst possible way to deal with situations, often squandering the positives in their actions & decisions by acting in a way that highlights the negatives. It wouldn't matter, except it has had a real effect on the outcome of the DUST project. Classiness/Professionalism/Honesty: 4/10. - How much of the above was limited by the platform? Imo, none at all. The primary handicap faced by the DUST project was the quality of the decisions made by the executive management in control of the project, and the support they did or did not provide to the DUST dev team. PSN: RationalSpark
Scheneighnay McBob Cult of Gasai 5654	Posted - 2014.07.15 16:59:00 - [29] - Quote On a scale of 1 to 10 I would rate it toothpaste. pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
GeneralButtNaked Fatal Absolution 1246	Posted - 2014.07.15 17:02:00 - [30] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: - - How much of the above was limited by the platform? Imo, none at all. The primary handicap faced by the DUST project was the quality of the decisions made by the executive management in control of the project, and the support they did or did not provide to the DUST dev team. The platform is the scapegoat. CCP once loved her, but had to make her look like she was asking for it. Although I agree that there could be many words put forth about CCP and their faillings from our perspective, it matters not at all unless CCP actually is willing to concede that they put a turd on the floor with Dust and really asses the process that led to that failure. Is CCP a company that is capable of taking a hard look at themselves and making the tough calls? All evidence points to no. For me, CCP watching is now just waiting for the other shoe to drop. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6546	Posted - 2014.07.15 17:05:00 - [31] - Quote 3 This game literally has not hit a single goal they said they would hit they only did half of one goal and that's racial parity with suits but not weapons. This is also the only game I know of that actually has less content as time goes on. It's like they tried to make this game fail. All in all, this is a terrible game, but it still requires more thought than the average shooter, which is the only reason I play it, also for the Lore. and that's the only reason I gave this game a 3and not a 1 or 2. see you space cowboy...
Nirwanda Vaughns 426th Infantry 648	Posted - 2014.07.15 17:19:00 - [32] - Quote Nintendo Virtuaboy level of success Rolling with the punches
Eruditus 920 Prodigy Ops 225	Posted - 2014.07.15 17:38:00 - [33] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: 9/10 personal success. Bloody good game for people that invest the time to get into it. (Sadly not that many of us, due to the first point ) AKA, I sucked long enough to get enough SP to stomp noobs. Now the game is fun because I have my crutch. You should just sign up for Eve, grab a catalyst and gank carebears, you would fit right in. I don't understand why some feel the need to try and belittle others like this. He offered a sincere thought. These types of comments add nothing to others enjoyment of the game or forum. Dominion over others is given not taken. Nothing has power over you but your own fear.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1325	Posted - 2014.07.15 18:09:00 - [34] - Quote To me personally - a solid 9 (I love this game) In terms of general meta and general opinions of my mates that have played it - about 6-7 at best. Worldwide I think it gets around 60% give or take in average reviews. It has always been a game with potential. That word - potential - I think DUST should be the new definition in Websters. -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1325	Posted - 2014.07.15 18:11:00 - [35] - Quote Eruditus 920 wrote: GeneralButtNaked wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: 9/10 personal success. Bloody good game for people that invest the time to get into it. (Sadly not that many of us, due to the first point ) AKA, I sucked long enough to get enough SP to stomp noobs. Now the game is fun because I have my crutch. You should just sign up for Eve, grab a catalyst and gank carebears, you would fit right in. I don't understand why some feel the need to try and belittle others like this. He offered a sincere thought. These types of comments add nothing to others enjoyment of the game or forum. Because some Human beings have nothing better to do. Its very saddening. -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
Duke Noobiam S.e.V.e.N. General Tso's Alliance 113	Posted - 2014.07.15 19:50:00 - [36] - Quote It's my all time favorite pvp fps, so I would give it a 9.5. How do you kill that which has no life?
Regis Blackbird DUST University Ivy League 340	Posted - 2014.07.15 21:18:00 - [37] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: Regis Blackbird wrote: 9/10 personal success. Bloody good game for people that invest the time to get into it. (Sadly not that many of us, due to the first point ) AKA, I sucked long enough to get enough SP to stomp noobs. Now the game is fun because I have my crutch. You should just sign up for Eve, grab a catalyst and gank carebears, you would fit right in. First I thought; don't even bother replying to idiotic remarks like that... Then I thought; hell, why not? It's sad to see people that can't accept the enjoyment of others, and makes unjustified remarks based on their own warped sense of self entitlement. You have no basis for your claim, which makes you look even more silly. Dust Beta Vet + several years playing EVE. Own only 1 proto suite (Caldari Assault), but rarely use it. Have maxed core skills, and play a multitude of roles on the battlefield. Like to help new players when I can, hence Dust University. (I do however enjoy killing proto stompers? Does that count? )
JAVIER14 Rebelion TLC. Dark Taboo 2	Posted - 2014.07.15 21:25:00 - [38] - Quote 10
CYRAX SERVIUS Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 1879	Posted - 2014.07.15 22:36:00 - [39] - Quote 2... CEO Whiskey squad leader, E9 , patiently waiting for Destiny and Planetside2, real games... Once Bitten Twice Shy....
J0LLY R0G3R And the ButtPirates 991	Posted - 2014.07.15 23:51:00 - [40] - Quote No numbers just : It Failed. X( Vid of : J0LLY Failing at WarFrame on PS4



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