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SAIRAX SIS
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
105
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:21:00 -
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Scout changes are based on the focus scan with Gal Logi.
its ok.
...By the way, by having a lot of Proto Focus(and Flux) Scanner, it's continued to be scanned endlessly it a problem?
i think that its OP.
Because, only have one person Gal Logi, it is synonymous passive ability powerful at all times and be assigned to the squad everyone.
And to limit the number to be able to carry at the same time, what about?
It should not be weakened.
yoroshiku ne !pÇÇpÇÇCute Cat NyaoooonpÇÇGÖ¬
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Fizzer94
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2906
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:27:00 -
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You mean just like Val scouts have been doing passively this whole time?
Active Scanners won't be an issue.
My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon.
Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1354
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:32:00 -
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Id like to see them take a tad more PG just so a four focused scanner galogi ballerina is discouraged
I would like to encourage use of the proximity scanner and focused together with other logi equipment
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
5983
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:33:00 -
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We can still damp below it if need be.
Our job then will be to eliminate the scanner logi.
This should help reduce spam. Most likely, they will carry one or two and try to scan objectives or hot spots to pick up scouts.
You start doing it too much, and we will hunt you down for the entire match.
How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout
PSN: EVL_Elgost105
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SAIRAX SIS
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
106
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:34:00 -
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Thank you for your opinion!pÇÇ
yoroshiku ne !pÇÇpÇÇCute Cat NyaoooonpÇÇGÖ¬
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
5983
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:37:00 -
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SAIRAX SIS wrote:Thank you for your opinion!pÇÇ
Have I mentioned that you are the nicest person from Nyain San that I've ever met?
Because you're the nicest person from Nyain San that I've ever met.
How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout
PSN: EVL_Elgost105
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1354
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:37:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:We can still damp below it if need be.
Our job then will be to eliminate the scanner logi.
This should help reduce spam. Most likely, they will carry one or two and try to scan objectives or hot spots to pick up scouts.
You start doing it too much, and we will hunt you down for the entire match.
Damn straight.
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
40
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:42:00 -
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SAIRAX SIS wrote:Scout changes are based on the focus scan with Gal Logi.
its ok.
...By the way, by having a lot of Proto Focus(and Flux) Scanner, it's continued to be scanned endlessly it a problem?
i think that its OP.
Because, only have one person Gal Logi, it is synonymous passive ability powerful at all times and be assigned to the squad everyone.
And to limit the number to be able to carry at the same time, what about?
It should not be weakened.
What were the changes to scouts? I couldn't understand the spreadsheet.
Max level brony.
My special magic is trolling.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
5985
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:48:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:SAIRAX SIS wrote:Scout changes are based on the focus scan with Gal Logi.
its ok.
...By the way, by having a lot of Proto Focus(and Flux) Scanner, it's continued to be scanned endlessly it a problem?
i think that its OP.
Because, only have one person Gal Logi, it is synonymous passive ability powerful at all times and be assigned to the squad everyone.
And to limit the number to be able to carry at the same time, what about?
It should not be weakened. What were the changes to scouts? I couldn't understand the spreadsheet.
eWAR is normalized between the scouts. Everyone can do it okay to a degree, Amarr and Gal have stronger scans, but Cal has fantastic range.
Everyone can damp well enough to avoid ANY and ALL scans, IF they use enough dampeners.
It has equalized all of the scouts, brought Cal into line, and makes Amarr and Minmatar PC viable again.
Gal Logi is the counter, as it forces EVERYONE to run max damp fits.
How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout
PSN: EVL_Elgost105
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Fizzer94
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2907
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Posted - 2014.07.15 03:55:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:
eWAR is normalized between the scouts. Everyone can do it okay to a degree, Amarr and Gal have stronger scans, but Cal has fantastic range. Check Haerr's spreadsheet on post three of the charlie scout thread. The numbers represent how many complex damps are needed to avoid the scans.
All scouts can damp well enough to avoid ANY and ALL scans, IF they use enough dampeners.
It has equalized all of the scouts, brought Cal into line, and makes Amarr and Minmatar PC viable again.
Gal Logi is the counter, as it forces EVERYONE to run max damp fits.
Ghost Kaisar wrote:
It has equalized all of the scouts, brought Cal into line, and makes Amarr and Minmatar PC viable again.
Ghost Kaisar wrote:
makes Amarr and Minmatar PC viable again.
Ghost Kaisar wrote:
PC viable again.
Ghost Kaisar wrote:
again.
Again?
My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon.
Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
5994
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Posted - 2014.07.15 04:32:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote: Something that makes me die a little on the inside
I live in a state of denial. I was also referring to the Min Scout mainly.
How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout
PSN: EVL_Elgost105
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1187
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Posted - 2014.07.15 04:34:00 -
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May be time to break back out my "4scan" gallogi. :) |
Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
5994
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Posted - 2014.07.15 04:38:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:May be time to break back out my "4scan" gallogi. :)
Do you want to get Nova Knifed?
Cause that's how you get Nova Knifed.
How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout
PSN: EVL_Elgost105
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SAIRAX SIS
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
108
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Posted - 2014.07.15 04:45:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:
Gal Logi is the counter, as it forces EVERYONE to run max damp fits.
hmm...
Gal Logi forces all Scouts to dampting fit. its ok
But, Gal Logi it be given an effect on all the range(100m60-¦ "x4") all time and all clones, Is not too strong?
I feel enforceable somewhat OPpÇÇ(-¦pâ+-ëpâ+n+Ç)
I think no problem if a single scan in 40 seconds.pÇÇ
My opinion is Multiple Scanner is too OP, but a person can only take 1 Scanner that is fine. and not OP.
eHP is low hiding fit, my Scout can not get to Gal logi backward.
It would have been brought down to be surrounded by the enemy even if defeat.
Suppose, they can cover all directions if had more than Gal Logi.
Of course !! it is also possible to avoid( Ghost says true). pÇÉHowever, would have been forced unilaterally fittingpÇæ
If they do not have only one, chance should also increase. To close combat during the cool-down time.
(The weakness can be eliminated by more than one person to scan or Scouts Passive.)
Let me talk the your opinion :) thanks.
yoroshiku ne !pÇÇpÇÇCute Cat NyaoooonpÇÇGÖ¬
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SAIRAX SIS
Nyain San
General Tso's Alliance
108
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Posted - 2014.07.15 04:46:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:May be time to break back out my "4scan" gallogi. :) Do you want to get Nova Knifed? Cause that's how you get Nova Knifed.
Lazer Blade plz xD
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Aeon Amadi
Edimmu Warfighters
Gallente Federation
6300
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Posted - 2014.07.15 05:39:00 -
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Meh, just don't see the point. Knowing that the only thing the Gal Logi can really do is scan Scouts to a point where they'll just max EWAR fit and then the Gal Logi is useless. Might as well just take advantage of the shared squad passive scans and just run Amarr Scout with that precision/85m range, let the Gallente Logi do his job at supporting the team by other means.
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
40
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Posted - 2014.07.15 05:41:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:JRleo jr wrote:SAIRAX SIS wrote:Scout changes are based on the focus scan with Gal Logi.
its ok.
...By the way, by having a lot of Proto Focus(and Flux) Scanner, it's continued to be scanned endlessly it a problem?
i think that its OP.
Because, only have one person Gal Logi, it is synonymous passive ability powerful at all times and be assigned to the squad everyone.
And to limit the number to be able to carry at the same time, what about?
It should not be weakened. What were the changes to scouts? I couldn't understand the spreadsheet. eWAR is normalized between the scouts. Everyone can do it okay to a degree, Amarr and Gal have stronger scans, but Cal has fantastic range. Check Haerr's spreadsheet on post three of the charlie scout thread. The numbers represent how many complex damps are needed to avoid the scans. All scouts can damp well enough to avoid ANY and ALL scans, IF they use enough dampeners. It has equalized all of the scouts, brought Cal into line, and makes Amarr and Minmatar PC viable again. Gal Logi is the counter, as it forces EVERYONE to run max damp fits.
Wow, that's good, not good with spreadsheet available, would you please tell me what change is going to happen? Damps getting buffed?
Max level brony.
My special magic is trolling.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1188
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Posted - 2014.07.15 13:06:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:May be time to break back out my "4scan" gallogi. :) Do you want to get Nova Knifed? Cause that's how you get Nova Knifed.
He might get me, but the heavies in my squad will likely kill him soon thereafter.
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
22
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Posted - 2014.07.15 13:14:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:May be time to break back out my "4scan" gallogi. :)
think ima go finish speccing my gal logi now
no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3540
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Posted - 2014.07.15 13:28:00 -
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I think its stupid that the caldari scout recieves a dampening bonus. Damps+range is what made the gallente scout broken in the first place. Sure they couldnt prey on other scouts but on every 1 else they could. |
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
906
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Posted - 2014.07.15 14:10:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:I think its stupid that the caldari scout recieves a dampening bonus.
I don't know about that , that's what they should have had in the first place with the amount of highs that they have and the lows have to be stacked with damps which lead to just one viable fit for lows .
If they have a damp bonus that leads to balance and the ability to have multiple fittings and not gimping yourself , while others have a clear advantage .
That would even the scale so to speak and adds variety instead of being stuck and SOL .
Me personally ... became tired of stacking all e-war materials and having no survivability , no kin cats , no reps and so on . I don't tank because for a Cal scout in my eyes , it doesn't make sense and if I wanted to play light assault I would have specked into Amarr .
Now everyone has a purpose and this should become more interesting .
I might have proto mods but not suits so it hurts when most scouts have proto suits , the changes will even the playing field .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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NAV HIV
The Generals
Anime Empire.
1902
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:02:00 -
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SAIRAX SIS wrote:Scout changes are based on the focus scan with Gal Logi.
its ok.
...By the way, by having a lot of Proto Focus(and Flux) Scanner, it's continued to be scanned endlessly it a problem?
i think that its OP.
Because, only have one person Gal Logi, it is synonymous passive ability powerful at all times and be assigned to the squad everyone.
And to limit the number to be able to carry at the same time, what about?
It should not be weakened.
A guy in the squad went 0/0 with 1900WP... He was simply pointing at different directions and scanning the area for the rest of the squad... CCPs idea of "Working as intended" |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2818
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:09:00 -
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Difficult to follow the OP ...
Does this mean Nyain San will spam Gal Logi?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
390
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:12:00 -
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so its ok for a squad of scouts to **** my team without being detected?
but as soon as people relize gal logis will counter MOST scout fits and by most I mean the 95% brick tanknked scout fits.
if you don't want to be scaned..........be a scout and use dampeners.
so far if I want to counter scouts its either my gall logi or my gal assault. (even caldari scouts cant avoid my breach ar.)
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
2467
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:20:00 -
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This is still a game, not a job, even if teamwork is OP, fun comes before, i would never waste an entire match switching from a scanner to another.
Glad i'm not part of the hive mind.
PSN: ogamega
"Dust is full of communist who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items"
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
6034
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Posted - 2014.07.15 17:23:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:JRleo jr wrote:SAIRAX SIS wrote:Scout changes are based on the focus scan with Gal Logi.
its ok.
...By the way, by having a lot of Proto Focus(and Flux) Scanner, it's continued to be scanned endlessly it a problem?
i think that its OP.
Because, only have one person Gal Logi, it is synonymous passive ability powerful at all times and be assigned to the squad everyone.
And to limit the number to be able to carry at the same time, what about?
It should not be weakened. What were the changes to scouts? I couldn't understand the spreadsheet. eWAR is normalized between the scouts. Everyone can do it okay to a degree, Amarr and Gal have stronger scans, but Cal has fantastic range. Check Haerr's spreadsheet on post three of the charlie scout thread. The numbers represent how many complex damps are needed to avoid the scans. All scouts can damp well enough to avoid ANY and ALL scans, IF they use enough dampeners. It has equalized all of the scouts, brought Cal into line, and makes Amarr and Minmatar PC viable again. Gal Logi is the counter, as it forces EVERYONE to run max damp fits. Wow, that's good, not good with spreadsheet available, would you please tell me what change is going to happen? Damps getting buffed?
Sticky in Feedback
How I Imagine I look when running Minmatar Scout
PSN: EVL_Elgost105
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3551
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Posted - 2014.07.15 17:43:00 -
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the 15DB scan is only for the duvolle focused active scanner (proto) and thats whats allready in the game. They are building the scouts around the gal. logi with ridicoulus fits. Like if a amarr scout would run 4 dampeners. There is a small line where you dont want to be scanned or beeing so paper thin that a militia SMG will drop you within half a sec. |
CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
RISE of LEGION
1325
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Posted - 2014.07.15 18:02:00 -
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How many even actually use the Gall logi? I could be missing the obvious here however the only thing I regularly see is Heavies and Scouts. Medium suits are a spattering but usually cheap suits / starter suits.
I rarely run into Gall logis with scanners. How about you guys?
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MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
"I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1705
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Posted - 2014.07.15 18:51:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:You mean just like cal scouts have been doing passively this whole time?
Active Scanners won't be an issue.
At 30m with a signficantly limited tank? |
Lynn Beck
Fooly Cooly.
Anime Empire.
2047
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Posted - 2014.07.15 19:00:00 -
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If an Amarr scout wishes to dodge scans, theycan use 3 damp/cloak, and then Shield Tank(ZOMG) and become an assassin(albeit worse than a Minja)
General John Ripper
-BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse.
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