The weapons respective ammo skill book?

lvl 5 not enough. Keep running out, then use up a nano hive, then run out, then have to find a supply depot.

Not enough ammo.

Ahhh, another way for more ammo... Ammo drones! With mini lasers on horseback!

A low slot ammo cash maybe?

.... or the Vigilant Recycler perk?

lvl 5 not enough. Keep running out, then use up a nano hive, then run out, then have to find a supply depot.

Not enough ammo.

lvl 5 not enough. Keep running out, then use up a nano hive, then run out, then have to find a supply depot.

Not enough ammo.

Old tip of combat: When down to three clips, ALWAYS start fighting toward supplies.

Also: We have supply depots for that exact reason. If it takes you that long to die, consider it a job well done. Get to that depot and re-supply.

[quote=Syeven Reed]
Best Ammo conservation method is to
A) Remote Explosives
B) Gang up
C) Remote Explosives
D) Road Kill
E) Carry 2 wildly differing weapons. For instance to conserve mass driver ammo I will pop the shields off with my scrambler pistol then finish off the armor with the mass driver.

Thank you for that insight. Here are a couple for you. 1. The battle is not always near a supply depot. 2. HAVs et al dispose of supply depots so there may be none left.

1. Then looks like you need to run.
2. Not nearly as much as they used to. HAVs actually need supply depots now and often need to keep them for their infantry support.

Honestly, just quit your bitching and keep a better tab on your ammo. Below 1/3rd capacity? Maybe you should retire for a while to refill.

The context of the battlefield has changed. There is now more eHP walking around the field that needs to be reduced to zero. I am letting the developers know that I need a technological solution to a battlefield dilemma.

Historically there have not been this many heavies walking around on the battlefield. We need to set a new precedent for ammo capacity or find some other solution to the additional ammo requirement.

There is no need to change things, they are fine. Supply depots are present, allowing you to refill ammo and equipment or switch to a more effective suit. Nanohives allow you to refill on the fly. Remotes might be useful for your needs? Maybe try adapting?

So instead of spending half of the match tethered to a supply depot, I am requesting some other solution.

Nanohives and Logistics. Ta-daaaa!

Yes, more HP means more ammo needed: you're supposed to invest in nanohives and/or ammo skills. Even then no one should have enough ammo to last forever.

Maybe you should actually present some numbers instead of simply declaring your stance to be true. My normative stance is still legitimate: no one should have the ammo to run around murdering everyone without concern for logistics.

Let's say that I have to face 20 additional heavies per match now, and each of those previously played assaults and so there are approximately 20,000 (20 x 1000) additional HP that I must damage with ballistics if I am not near a supply depot and cannot switch to REs or an alternate method. Then that means at 27 HP per combat rifle bullet, when in optimal range, I would use approximately 740 extra rounds per match, if my accuracy were 100%, but not all attacks occur within optimal range, and my accuracy is not 100%, so let's double that to 1500 additional rounds per match. If I die twice on average, then I will need to carry around 500 extra combat rifle rounds on my character to deal with all of the extra HP on the field due to popularity of heavy class dropsuits.

I am concerned about logistics. I use the tools at hand. I am asking for new tech.

Now you have the numbers. You have the reason.

The only reason that you would be so obstinate, that I can think of, is if you regularly play a heavy suit and you are afraid that I will be matched against you some day, and you feel like you need the advantage of my possibly running out of ammo in order to take me down.

I don't have ammo issues, often because I die.

We could get into the tedium of how the numbers work out, and we could ask CCP to send us battle logs to show what really happens on the battlefield, but what matters is what a good player is reporting.

I hold that I need a tech solution. If you don't like it, then okay.

I'm not disagreeing because I dislike it, I'm disagreeing because I think it is unnecessary, renders nanohives less important and by proxy makes Logistics suits less important.

I understand your opinion.

Thank you for singlehandedly setting me straight. I have now converted to your way of thinking.

Hey, DEVS, if you get a chance to look into this problem, keep it on the down low. Kallas has a strict moral rubric against supplanting logis.