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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:54:00 -
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First of all, hotfix Alpha and Bravo were great... overdue, but great nonetheless.
I'm curious though, CCP is shying away from updating the game client, instead choosing to focus on server-side changes. Does this mean we won't ever see new weapons, dropsuits, vehicles, modules, etc.?
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1507
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Posted - 2014.07.14 16:58:00 -
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click "Dev Posts" => type "update" => go to page two, second entry.
Blaaarghhh:CCP Rattati wrote:KingBabar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is.
We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download.
If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out.
Yeah, the cost for CCP of doing a clientside update isn't relevant at all.... I'm pretty sure the entire (LOL) Dust playerbase is more than willing to downlad the entire game over and over again if that means they'll get more content. Rattati, I thought you where special  No the cost isn't relevant at all...
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Leanna Boghin
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.14 17:02:00 -
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I think was Malkai Inos is trying to say is "NO"
I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
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Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
2195
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Posted - 2014.07.14 17:04:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:click "Dev Posts" => type "update" => go to page two, second entry.
I see. Well that vaguely hints that they might one day give us 1.9, but only after many hotfixes.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2329
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Posted - 2014.07.14 17:14:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:click "Dev Posts" => type "update" => go to page two, second entry. I see. Well that vaguely hints that they might one day give us 1.9, but only after many hotfixes.
What it really means is "Don't expect anything but hotfixes. What happens happens."
Like my ideas?
Pokey Dravon for CPM1
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Everything Dies
BIKINI BOTTOM BRIGADE
819
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Posted - 2014.07.14 18:11:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:click "Dev Posts" => type "update" => go to page two, second entry. I see. Well that vaguely hints that they might one day give us 1.9, but only after many hotfixes.
It could also signal that CCP finally realizes that Dust could have been more popular had the game been finely tuned instead of constantly focusing on trying to radically change the game constantly. Fix what's broken, THEN worry about trying to do new things.
Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof:
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Derpty Derp
It's All Gone Derp
217
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Posted - 2014.07.14 18:52:00 -
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They have a stance? I thought it was just random. |
Snake Sellors
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
166
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Posted - 2014.07.14 19:40:00 -
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just keep your fingers crossed that ccp sees people taking an interest again and decides to "hedge" their bets with it. that's the best you can hope for really.  |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:10:00 -
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Wont happend cause CCP doesnt want to spend any money for verifying patches by Sony. Which basically means there will no new content ever again for Dust. Its more likely that youll see flying pigs then a client update. |
Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:15:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Wont happend cause CCP doesnt want to spend any money for verifying patches by Sony. Which basically means there will no new content ever again for Dust. Its more likely that youll see flying pigs then a client update. Dude, i've just quoted Rattati saying that money is no concern at all.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2309
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:17:00 -
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CCP has mastered floating people on hope. Feel, smell, and taste the subtle manipulation.
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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Jimmy Slapnuts
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
35
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:19:00 -
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Don't forget to buy Aurum!  |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
2200
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:20:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Dude, i've just quoted Rattati saying that money is no concern at all.
I don't think it costs CCP that much money to submit patches to Sony for verification and release. I think that it is enough to where they wouldn't want to do it for every minor content update though.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:48:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Dude, i've just quoted Rattati saying that money is no concern at all. I don't think it costs CCP that much money to submit patches to Sony for verification and release. I think that it is enough to where they wouldn't want to do it for every minor content update though. Well I, highly doubt they will ever release a "minor content update" to begin with.
The highest chance of new content, I believe, is after some more more hotfixes, when enough suggested client side changes have piled up to warrant one fix heavy patch. Then, if the legion team happens to have created new assets at that point that are missing in Dust, they can piggy back them into said patch with very little additional man-hours invested.
It seems to me CCP is just not planning on creating new content specifically for Dust anymore so my hope is that the creative teams working on Legion are doing their best to prioritize things that could be re-cycled instead.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3534
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:57:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Wont happend cause CCP doesnt want to spend any money for verifying patches by Sony. Which basically means there will no new content ever again for Dust. Its more likely that youll see flying pigs then a client update. Dude, i've just quoted Rattati saying that money is no concern at all.
Uh huh. Thats why there are no plans for a 1.9 update. When do you learn it? Developers/Publishers are allways lying to their costumers. Prime example for CCP is that there was a DUST514 KEYNOTE listed for the fanfest. What we got is a presentation about that they stop working on dust514 (content wise) and started project legion. Then a presentation of some fancy things happend which is all legion based and 0% dust related.
Its not just CCP trying to tell a lie other publishers/devlopers are doing it too. Remember the fiasco with "Aliens: Colonial marines"? It looked promising and alot of pre orders happend and then the costumers have recieved a pig pile of crap. Or EA bringing out Battlefield:Hardline which is just a cops and robbers mod from BF4. Or COD which are each just map expansions all over. My credo:
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1513
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Posted - 2014.07.14 22:08:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Wont happend cause CCP doesnt want to spend any money for verifying patches by Sony. Which basically means there will no new content ever again for Dust. Its more likely that youll see flying pigs then a client update. Dude, i've just quoted Rattati saying that money is no concern at all. Uh huh. Thats why there are no plans for a 1.9 update. When do you learn it? Developers/Publishers are allways lying to their costumers. Prime example for CCP is that there was a DUST514 KEYNOTE listed for the fanfest. What we got is a presentation about that they stop working on dust514 (content wise) and started project legion. Then a presentation of some fancy things happend which is all legion based and 0% dust related. Its not just CCP trying to tell a lie other publishers/devlopers are doing it too. Remember the fiasco with "Aliens: Colonial marines"? It looked promising and alot of pre orders happend and then the costumers have recieved a pig pile of crap. Or EA bringing out Battlefield:Hardline which is just a cops and robbers mod from BF4. Or COD which are each just map expansions all over. My credo: NEVER TRUST A DEVELOPER There's absolutely no point discussing this if you deem every dev statement a lie by default. Your views are already immunized against any dissent at that point.
Don't get me wrong, you are free to do so and CCP have done their fair share of facilitating this notion. But further discussion cannot lead anywhere under such a presupposition.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Syeven Reed
G0DS AM0NG MEN
760
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Posted - 2014.07.14 22:16:00 -
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It's not off the table, but it's unlikely.
Twitter MajLagSpike
CPM Application
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Larry Desmo
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.14 22:16:00 -
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we just need the open world sandbox experiance we were promised, simple open ai populated districts that players can farm instead of get protostompe, places where there is no pvp and only pve, areas with pve and pvp. players shouldbe traveling new eden at their will, picking which districts to look for new isk making oppertunity, or seeking fights with other players. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.07.14 22:33:00 -
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Realistically "1.9" if anything is going to to only fix the less technical bugs and make hotfixing easier if one is to be made. I would not put my hopes on any new content whatsoever.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
\\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
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Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion
Final Resolution.
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Posted - 2014.07.14 23:44:00 -
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Larry Desmo wrote:we just need the open world sandbox experiance we were promised, simple open ai populated districts that players can farm instead of get protostompe, places where there is no pvp and only pve, areas with pve and pvp. players shouldbe traveling new eden at their will, picking which districts to look for new isk making oppertunity, or seeking fights with other players.
Yeeeeah... that's called Legion... when the go ahead is confirmed although I doubt it will be now.
Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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Larry Desmo
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.15 01:15:00 -
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the devs can just as easily stop working on legion and resume woking on dust, i dont care how long it takes to get pve and open districts for dust |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.07.15 12:23:00 -
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Larry Desmo wrote:we just need the open world sandbox experiance we were promised, simple open ai populated districts that players can farm instead of get protostompe, places where there is no pvp and only pve, areas with pve and pvp. players shouldbe traveling new eden at their will, picking which districts to look for new isk making oppertunity, or seeking fights with other players.
n00bs are not supposed to be capable to farm ISK. Thats why there is AUR and suits that are unlocked at a lower lvl. |
waistr
DEAD-MEN-WALKING
205
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Posted - 2014.07.15 13:51:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Wont happend cause CCP doesnt want to spend any money for verifying patches by Sony. Which basically means there will no new content ever again for Dust. Its more likely that youll see flying pigs then a client update. Dude, i've just quoted Rattati saying that money is no concern at all.
Whenever anyone say's
"its not about the money"
Trust me.....
It's about the money. |
Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2230
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:13:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Realistically "1.9" if anything is going to to only fix the less technical bugs and make hotfixing easier if one is to be made. I would not put my hopes on any new content whatsoever.
Why though?. Content is Money in a F2P business model.
Paying Sony money to then update everyones playstation.. And Not have something that your bringing to market? It makes no sense.
GTA online has generated over 300 million dollars in revenues with Shark cards delivering non stop free DLC.
Why would you spend 100+ hours of developer time on heavy weapon variants and not bring them to DUST and get paid back your development costs for them with the added benefit of getting basic operational tests and balance for Legion.
Why would you not want to run performance and balance tests on stripped down versions of Legion maps right now?
It seems crazy to nearly anyone in the industry when you sit down and explain the DUST 514 situation. They sit there with a big confused look on their face and repeat "WTF?!" over and over..
This product represents everyone of the people working at CCP Shanghai, it is their reputation and what they have to show for over 5 years operation and work. They can't be just happy with it... If this was your job in anything, Cake making even, would they just leave it half finished like this? Would they spend some extra hours producing something that would improve it?
Even the ability to inspire consumer confidence before the summer break which is always a revenue booster for CCP, they didn't even make a statement about anything.
When this is how CCP Rouge opens his Keynote speech. "Comunity, Community Community" now that fanfest is over we have been completely ignored by him. Where are players wrong to assume CCP Shanghai isn't just out to lie to them? |
GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
1241
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:38:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:
I see. Well that vaguely hints that they might one day give us 1.9, but only after many hotfixes.
No, that answer allows you keep your hopes up without explicitly stating that it won't happen.
So even though he is not lying, he is certainly not being honest.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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GeneralButtNaked
Fatal Absolution
1241
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Posted - 2014.07.15 15:39:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Realistically "1.9" if anything is going to to only fix the less technical bugs and make hotfixing easier if one is to be made. I would not put my hopes on any new content whatsoever.
This was made quite clear at Fanfest, to all but the most blind of fans. Thank you for being plain about it.
If not for the relentless optimism of the player base this game would have folded right after Uprising was released.
Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
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