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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
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Posted - 2014.07.13 16:33:00 -
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(Can't Decide If This Should Go In General Discussion Or Legion Discussion)
Legion Is And Will Continue To Be A Project. Not A Beta For Dust 0.2, But Just A Project
So Much Rage And Quitting And Not Voting Because CCP wants to multitask. Yes, What Happened At Fanfest Was A Disaster, But It Was Merely A Lack of Communication That Caused Information Not To Get To The Players. You Guys ("The Community" Me Included) Chose To Make It Worse Than What It Really Is By Making Statements Like "Oh Legion Is Taking Over" And "CCP Abandoned Us" And That Is Not The Case. If CCP Abandoned Us Why Are We Getting Hotfixes So Rapidly? If CCP Abandoned Us Why Would We Vote For CPM1 When We Are Abandoned? The Answer Is No We Are Not Abandoned. We Are Just Doing What EVERY Human Being Does When Their Is Uncertainty In Our Minds. We Develop Possible Conclusions. And The Most Widely Heard And Taken To Heart Conclusions Are Mentioned Above. The Community Making Premature Guesses When They Have A Reason To Believe But Have No Concrete Evidence.
A Blue Tag For Clarification Would Help Tremendously
TLDR; Read And You Just Might Learn Something
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8747
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Posted - 2014.07.13 16:37:00 -
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#deadhorse
Amarr are the good guys
Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
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Leanna Boghin
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
210
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Posted - 2014.07.13 16:41:00 -
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Right because you believe everything CCP tells you. Just like i bet you believed them when they said they were going to add a player market to dust or when they said they where going to put it on PS4 or when they said they would continue to improve and develop the game for about 10 years. Honestly you do realize the second they started working on Legion, Dust became just another thing on their servers to grab money from right? They dont care about Dust anymore and the only reason they still hold events in the first place is so they can get people (specially the noobies) to keep buying aurum items. If CCP cant keep promises what in the hell makes you think that they can be trusted? Legion is a sick joke plain and simple but if you want to waste your money buying a computer for a game that may never be and for Dust that could be shut down in the next year or two then by all means man its your wallet. But dont sit there and say we are all wrong when there is a very good chance we are actually right.
I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
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Jimmy Slapnuts
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2014.07.13 16:43:00 -
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Not Every Word Needs To Be Capitalized, Just The First One In Each Sentence.
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Slim Winning
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.13 16:45:00 -
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CCP has more failures and discontinuances, than not.
There is a strong possibility that we won't see Legion make it to market.
Until then, DUST 514 will still have a life for a good while to come. There will eventually be DUST players that will have the entire skilltree bought at its current state.
DUST has a life unto its own, its within the playerbase, just like all EvE games. |
Clone D
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Posted - 2014.07.13 16:50:00 -
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It's not that Legion is a project. It's that Dust is not receiving the attention that we think it deserves. A lot of players feel like Dust needs much more development in order to be a strong product. Throughout its infancy and childhood, Dust has only been a game "with potential" as has been said by so many inside and outside of the community. We are ready for the game to be so much more, but many feel that the game has been abandoned due to the slow progress of game development.
Dust could be more awesome and we want more now.
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Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.07.13 16:51:00 -
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CCP is doing hotfixes for DUST to keep you playing, and more importantly, to keep you paying until they have Legion out to make them money. Shutting down DUST at this point would keep them in a lump until Legion is out and of course they don't want that.
As long as they have a certain amount of people playing and paying on DUST they will keep it running, but you're likely more than stupid if you think DUST will ever get meaningful development again. There's only a skeleton crew working on DUST and why would they divert more resources from Legion when they so much need Legion to succeed at this point?
CCP will keep DUST running for as long as they can as it is now, but in a year or two when there's hardly anyone playing (after Legion is out anyway), why would they keep it running?
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
Go Go Power Rangers!
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Tebu Gan
Dem Durrty Boyz
General Tso's Alliance
1067
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Posted - 2014.07.13 17:08:00 -
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My question then, why no more client side updates?
Tanks - Balancing Turrets
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Ryme Intrinseca
The Rainbow Effect
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.13 17:11:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:(Can't Decide If This Should Go In General Discussion Or Legion Discussion)
Legion Is And Will Continue To Be A Project. Not A Beta For Dust 0.2, But Just A Project
So Much Rage And Quitting And Not Voting Because CCP wants to multitask. Yes, What Happened At Fanfest Was A Disaster, But It Was Merely A Lack of Communication That Caused Information Not To Get To The Players. You Guys ("The Community" Me Included) Chose To Make It Worse Than What It Really Is By Making Statements Like "Oh Legion Is Taking Over" And "CCP Abandoned Us" And That Is Not The Case. If CCP Abandoned Us Why Are We Getting Hotfixes So Rapidly? If CCP Abandoned Us Why Would We Vote For CPM1 When We Are Abandoned? The Answer Is No We Are Not Abandoned. We Are Just Doing What EVERY Human Being Does When Their Is Uncertainty In Our Minds. We Develop Possible Conclusions. And The Most Widely Heard And Taken To Heart Conclusions Are Mentioned Above. The Community Making Premature Guesses When They Have A Reason To Believe But Have No Concrete Evidence.
A Blue Tag For Clarification Would Help Tremendously
TLDR; Read And You Just Might Learn Something
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Leanna Boghin
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
210
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Posted - 2014.07.13 17:15:00 -
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Jimmy Slapnuts wrote:Not Every Word Needs To Be Capitalized, Just The First One In Each Sentence. Lrn2Grammar
lol thank you i needed a good laugh 
I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
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CEOPyrex CloneA
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.07.13 17:18:00 -
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When even its biggest youtuber replies with #deadhorse id say dust is in trouble. Frankly im tierd of the inactivity of CCP once again and throughout the 10 years of playing their products. If they havnt got their act together in a DECADE what makes you think much will change moving forward.
Legion will happen, that is a 100% cert - the issue will be 'Is Legion any good?'
Dust 514 fell into the middle of the pack (towards the back) of online shooters, what makes you think CCP have the X-factor that will make Legion a C-Change in gaming? the answer is...... well..... yeah..... hmm...... |
Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8751
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Posted - 2014.07.13 17:27:00 -
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CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:When even its biggest youtuber replies with #deadhorse id say dust is in trouble. Frankly im tierd of the inactivity of CCP once again and throughout the 10 years of playing their products. If they havnt got their act together in a DECADE what makes you think much will change moving forward.
Legion will happen, that is a 100% cert - the issue will be 'Is Legion any good?'
Dust 514 fell into the middle of the pack (towards the back) of online shooters, what makes you think CCP have the X-factor that will make Legion a C-Change in gaming? the answer is...... well..... yeah..... hmm......
And whenever you hear CCP talking about all the cool stuff they have planned for Legion, just remember how they used to talk about all the cool stuff they had planned for Dust. We have gone full circle.
Amarr are the good guys
Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
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Jimmy Slapnuts
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.13 17:29:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:CEOPyrex CloneA wrote:When even its biggest youtuber replies with #deadhorse id say dust is in trouble. Frankly im tierd of the inactivity of CCP once again and throughout the 10 years of playing their products. If they havnt got their act together in a DECADE what makes you think much will change moving forward.
Legion will happen, that is a 100% cert - the issue will be 'Is Legion any good?'
Dust 514 fell into the middle of the pack (towards the back) of online shooters, what makes you think CCP have the X-factor that will make Legion a C-Change in gaming? the answer is...... well..... yeah..... hmm...... And whenever you hear CCP talking about all the cool stuff they have planned for Legion, just remember how they used to talk about all the cool stuff they had planned for Dust. We have gone full circle.
Deja vu all over again! |
Thumb Green
The Valyrian Guard
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Posted - 2014.07.13 17:46:00 -
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I like your TLDR, it makes it seem as though you are trying to teach us something but there is nothing informative in your post; it's just you rambling on about your opinion that everyone is getting upset for no reason. Had you actually read all that had happened and had been said by CCP you would have learned that people aren't drawing unfounded conclusions that the game is dead just because they announced Legion.
We will not get the player market, we will not get PVE, we will not get any new content. Because all they are doing now is balancing and server side bug fixes. We weren't the ones that first said Dust is dead, CCP was when they told us that Dust would no longer receive any client updates.
Can't say I'm all that surprised.
I've been drinking and may be drunk.... probably like most dust players.
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
2348
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Posted - 2014.07.13 17:50:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:I like your TLDR, it makes it seem as though you are trying to teach us something but there is nothing informative in your post; it's just you rambling on about your opinion that everyone is getting upset for no reason. Had you actually read all that had happened and had been said by CCP you would have learned that people aren't drawing unfounded conclusions that the game is dead just because they announced Legion.
We will not get the player market, we will not get PVE, we will not get any new content. Because all they are doing now is balancing and server side bug fixes. We weren't the ones that first said Dust is dead, CCP was when they told us that Dust would no longer receive any client updates.
lol The TLDR Was For The People That Don't Even Bother To Read Because Of The Size Of A Post
CEO/ Killing Clones Since Uprising 1.2/ ADV Omni Soldier/ Forum King/
God Favors The Side With The Most Artillery
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Snake Sellors
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
146
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Posted - 2014.07.13 19:08:00 -
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I wouldn't expect an awful lot more of things to be appearing, but then I wouldn't of said that we'd be getting new officer weapons either.
gotta admit its ironic that after all of the fallout and the change of ccp staff and the addition of hotfix only, dust is in the best shape it's been for sometime.
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Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
487
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Posted - 2014.07.13 19:17:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:(Can't Decide If This Should Go In General Discussion Or Legion Discussion)
Legion Is And Will Continue To Be A Project. Not A Beta For Dust 0.2, But Just A Project
So Much Rage And Quitting And Not Voting Because CCP wants to multitask. Yes, What Happened At Fanfest Was A Disaster, But It Was Merely A Lack of Communication That Caused Information Not To Get To The Players. You Guys ("The Community" Me Included) Chose To Make It Worse Than What It Really Is By Making Statements Like "Oh Legion Is Taking Over" And "CCP Abandoned Us" And That Is Not The Case. If CCP Abandoned Us Why Are We Getting Hotfixes So Rapidly? If CCP Abandoned Us Why Would We Vote For CPM1 When We Are Abandoned? The Answer Is No We Are Not Abandoned. We Are Just Doing What EVERY Human Being Does When Their Is Uncertainty In Our Minds. We Develop Possible Conclusions. And The Most Widely Heard And Taken To Heart Conclusions Are Mentioned Above. The Community Making Premature Guesses When They Have A Reason To Believe But Have No Concrete Evidence.
A Blue Tag For Clarification Would Help Tremendously
TLDR; Read And You Just Might Learn Something
it wasn't just a lack of good communication, they knew for 7 months prior to the rouge wedding that dust wasn't going to be the game that was promised to us, yet still encouraged us to make purchases as if it were.
none of us can say for sure if anything of our characters will transfer to legion, even ccp cant... all they have said is IF legion becomes a thing they would like to transfer as much relevant info of our characters as possible... that's quite vague.
and ccp doesn't have a good track record for coming through on much of anything.
I did still vote, I do still play dust, but I have no faith in ccp's ability to do anything with dust/legion. these hotfixes rattati is incharge of are nice, but this kind of community engaugement and action should have been done over a year ago.
it's too little too late... |
Nerf Everything
Xpert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.07.14 12:43:00 -
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Just another brain washed merc..........
Destiny beta starts in 3 days........
Dust is DOOOOOOOOMED!
I have two extra beta keys for 50mill each........
See you all in Destiny..... Speeders, fighter jets and PVE, oh my..... |
Pr0phetzReck0ning
KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND
255
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Posted - 2014.07.14 12:57:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:(Can't Decide If This Should Go In General Discussion Or Legion Discussion)
Legion Is And Will Continue To Be A Project. Not A Beta For Dust 0.2, But Just A Project
So Much Rage And Quitting And Not Voting Because CCP wants to multitask. Yes, What Happened At Fanfest Was A Disaster, But It Was Merely A Lack of Communication That Caused Information Not To Get To The Players. You Guys ("The Community" Me Included) Chose To Make It Worse Than What It Really Is By Making Statements Like "Oh Legion Is Taking Over" And "CCP Abandoned Us" And That Is Not The Case. If CCP Abandoned Us Why Are We Getting Hotfixes So Rapidly? If CCP Abandoned Us Why Would We Vote For CPM1 When We Are Abandoned? The Answer Is No We Are Not Abandoned. We Are Just Doing What EVERY Human Being Does When Their Is Uncertainty In Our Minds. We Develop Possible Conclusions. And The Most Widely Heard And Taken To Heart Conclusions Are Mentioned Above. The Community Making Premature Guesses When They Have A Reason To Believe But Have No Concrete Evidence.
A Blue Tag For Clarification Would Help Tremendously
TLDR; Read And You Just Might Learn Something
Like I said. These hotfixes are paint tryna cover up ****. They DID tmsay that the majority of the development team IS focused on Legion. That statement right there makes it crystal clear that their intention is to fly away with Legion when the time is ready. Hell that demo they showed at Fanfest was completely in a couple months and we all saw how polished and rich everything looked. Dust IS dead. But ya'll are too stubborn to accept it.
And whats the purpose of the CPM anymore? A joke. You wanna be part of a counsil for a crap game go right ahead. A game that has no substantial future? Dust doesnt even have competitive worth anymore! PC is boring and pointless, there have been the SAME game modes since FOREVER, and it has been Always pay to win.
The players that dominate this game have over 50 mill SP from all the Boosters they purchased in the beginning. I remember when CCP said " Dust is definitely not Pay to Win"... Bull! You mean to tell me if two people start playin at the Same time and one of them purchases a SP booster pr Aur gear he wont have an advantage over the one who doesnt? Of course he will, because he would have access to better weapons sooner and Skills faster than his peer!
Anyway, my rant is over. Dust is dead its been dead. Legion is taking its place. The Cake was a lie... |
Onesimus Tarsus
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2308
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Posted - 2014.07.14 12:58:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:#deadhorse
#since2013
K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period.
Beh!
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NAV HIV
The Generals
Anime Empire.
1894
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Posted - 2014.07.14 13:42:00 -
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Soulja Ghostface wrote:(Can't Decide If This Should Go In General Discussion Or Legion Discussion)
Legion Is And Will Continue To Be A Project. Not A Beta For Dust 0.2, But Just A Project
So Much Rage And Quitting And Not Voting Because CCP wants to multitask. Yes, What Happened At Fanfest Was A Disaster, But It Was Merely A Lack of Communication That Caused Information Not To Get To The Players. You Guys ("The Community" Me Included) Chose To Make It Worse Than What It Really Is By Making Statements Like "Oh Legion Is Taking Over" And "CCP Abandoned Us" And That Is Not The Case. If CCP Abandoned Us Why Are We Getting Hotfixes So Rapidly? If CCP Abandoned Us Why Would We Vote For CPM1 When We Are Abandoned? The Answer Is No We Are Not Abandoned. We Are Just Doing What EVERY Human Being Does When Their Is Uncertainty In Our Minds. We Develop Possible Conclusions. And The Most Widely Heard And Taken To Heart Conclusions Are Mentioned Above. The Community Making Premature Guesses When They Have A Reason To Believe But Have No Concrete Evidence.
A Blue Tag For Clarification Would Help Tremendously
TLDR; Read And You Just Might Learn Something
Answer is More random SP events, More discount AUR gear, more discounted Boosters = More $$$$ |
Man of Spade
Nos Nothi
360
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:04:00 -
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Can't we leave this bloody pulp that was once a horse and a dog used to beat the horse with alone?
Totally not Spademan.
That guy is a real jackass.
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Mike De Luca
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
166
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:27:00 -
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They'll probably leave dust running until either
A: Too much of a burden to keep running
B: Aur sales are no longer worth it
what i think of when charging fg
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steadyhand amarr
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:44:00 -
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Will likely been turned off sep the 15 at the very least will give dust a good kick in the balls first game of year to live up to its hype
You can never have to many chaples
-Templar True adamance
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waistr
DEAD-MEN-WALKING
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Posted - 2014.07.14 14:49:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:My question then, why no more client side updates?
Because Sony has to test and approve client side updates...... and they charge a boatload of money to do that
or so we've been told |
Bendtner92
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2014.07.14 15:17:00 -
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waistr wrote:Tebu Gan wrote:My question then, why no more client side updates? Because Sony has to test and approve client side updates...... and they charge a boatload of money to do that or so we've been told
Not entirely true though. Well, the money part might be, but CCP has to produce a patch before Sony can test anything. As we all know no one except Rattati and a few other poor souls are still working on Dust, so who would do the development for the patches for Dust?
Fact is the entire focus is on Legion and they are simply not going to divert any of that focus onto Dust because they need it all on Legion to make sure it doesn't flop (like Dust).
Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament.
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1503
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Posted - 2014.07.14 15:19:00 -
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waistr wrote:Tebu Gan wrote:My question then, why no more client side updates? Because Sony has to test and approve client side updates...... and they charge a boatload of money to do that or so we've been told Rattati has confirmed the cost not to be relevant.
CCP Rattati wrote:KingBabar wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:It is also a factor of low hanging fruits versus the "recook" issue. Basically, some content like textures requires a recook of assets, which leads to everyone needing to download the whole client again, sometimes partially but sometimes the whole X GB the client is.
We can do it, but there are many things I would like to tweak/fix before we bother the playerbase with a full client re-download.
If the content gets created, by either the DUST 514 or Legion team, we can push it out.
Yeah, the cost for CCP of doing a clientside update isn't relevant at all.... I'm pretty sure the entire (LOL) Dust playerbase is more than willing to downlad the entire game over and over again if that means they'll get more content. Rattati, I thought you where special  No the cost isn't relevant at all...
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
257
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Posted - 2014.07.14 15:21:00 -
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Dust is a test ground for Legion. Maybe that's why they are talking about changing Logis again. Just constructing experiments with a playerbase slash tester group. |
Everything Dies
BIKINI BOTTOM BRIGADE
819
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Posted - 2014.07.14 18:21:00 -
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Tebu Gan wrote:My question then, why no more client side updates?
Let me ask you this: Has Dust improved more with the last two hotfixes, or with the numerous patch updates? I vote that they continue to focus on improving/fixing the existing material before trying to introduce something new.
Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof:
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Ace Mercenary
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
0
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Posted - 2014.07.14 19:43:00 -
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Leanna Boghin wrote:Right because you believe everything CCP tells you. Just like i bet you believed them when they said they were going to add a player market to dust or when they said they where going to put it on PS4 or when they said they would continue to improve and develop the game for about 10 years. Honestly you do realize the second they started working on Legion, Dust became just another thing on their servers to grab money from right? They dont care about Dust anymore and the only reason they still hold events in the first place is so they can get people (specially the noobies) to keep buying aurum items. If CCP cant keep promises what in the hell makes you think that they can be trusted? Legion is a sick joke plain and simple but if you want to waste your money buying a computer for a game that may never be and for Dust that could be shut down in the next year or two then by all means man its your wallet. But dont sit there and say we are all wrong when there is a very good chance we are actually right.
There is a player market T^T |
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