DUST Search - were officer gear drop rates changed

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

Brotherband wrote:

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:

CCP Rattati wrote:

When the new Officer Items are launched, we intend to try and boost the rates for sure.

Any way to make the salvage drops based on what the player is skilled into? for example, I have no use for an officer AR since I have 0 skills in ARs, but I have proficiency is forge guns and scrambler rifles, so I would like the salvage system to give me officer weapons of only those categories.

That would take out the grind though and I think that is what the devs were going for.

That's a very poor incentive to get players to skill into something. I'm never going to grind SP for a weapon category I don't like just to use a small handful of officer weapons in that category, if I was going to do that, then I would have already skilled up deeply into sniper rifles and ARs since they've had officer stuff since beta. There really is no downside to giving players only what they can use.

If Dust is never getting a player market to sell your unwanted salvage, it needs a smarter salvage system.

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Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:08:00 - [1] - Quote ive gotten 3 baloch 3 thales and 3 gastins today wtf :/ no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 479	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:11:00 - [2] - Quote Baloch is the mlt lav, I think. Haven't gotten an abundance of Officers in a while, maybe just once in a blue moon.
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 6	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:28:00 - [3] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Baloch is the mlt lav, I think. Haven't gotten an abundance of Officers in a while, maybe just once in a blue moon. the ar dude -_-..balac's gar-21 ar..i dunno why i spelled it baloch lol forgot it was balac no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
Vulpes Dolosus Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1700	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:34:00 - [4] - Quote I've been playing since open beta and I only have 6 or so of a few officer weapons. I haven't use any eitherGÇª
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3745	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:43:00 - [5] - Quote Haven't noticed a difference but it's been a light month of play so far. I got a few Wolfman's the other day, those were the first officer weapons I got in probably 2-3 weeks. Was in a FW match last week where the other (also qsynced) team, I guess once they saw PLCAS and some other well known Amarr peeps, went uber-tryhard with officer gear; I saw at least 2-3 guys with Balacs and one with a Gastuns. Not sure about our side's casualties, which were obviously heavy since we lost, but we must have destroyed at least 50-60 maxed out proto suits and 4-5 officer weapons. I got jack squat in salvage. That was BS! (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Kira Lannister Go Flux Yourself. 2420	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:57:00 - [6] - Quote more balacs more "The Ancient Templars will guard fearlessly the people, the land and the heavens of the empire." Book of Exiles 1:3
Lynn Beck Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 2035	Posted - 2014.07.12 20:02:00 - [7] - Quote I keep gettin Krin's, at least 6 each day i play. Now as for the ONLY one icare about... The SMG... 15 LIFETIME. All others are about equal, at 30-40 apiece General John Ripper -BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse. This message was approved by the 'Nobody Loved You' Foundation

CCP Rattati C C P C C P Alliance 4059	Posted - 2014.07.12 20:26:00 - [8] - Quote When the new Officer Items are launched, we intend to try and boost the rates for sure. "As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11378	Posted - 2014.07.12 20:35:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: When the new Officer Items are launched, we intend to try and boost the rates for sure. Any way to make the salvage drops based on what the player is skilled into? for example, I have no use for an officer AR since I have 0 skills in ARs, but I have proficiency is forge guns and scrambler rifles, so I would like the salvage system to give me officer weapons of only those categories. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Brotherband REMNANT ENFORCERS 13	Posted - 2014.07.12 20:48:00 - [10] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: When the new Officer Items are launched, we intend to try and boost the rates for sure. Any way to make the salvage drops based on what the player is skilled into? for example, I have no use for an officer AR since I have 0 skills in ARs, but I have proficiency is forge guns and scrambler rifles, so I would like the salvage system to give me officer weapons of only those categories. That would take out the grind though and I think that is what the devs were going for. Am I the only one who still uses the ion pistol

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI 11378	Posted - 2014.07.12 20:58:00 - [11] - Quote Brotherband wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: When the new Officer Items are launched, we intend to try and boost the rates for sure. Any way to make the salvage drops based on what the player is skilled into? for example, I have no use for an officer AR since I have 0 skills in ARs, but I have proficiency is forge guns and scrambler rifles, so I would like the salvage system to give me officer weapons of only those categories. That would take out the grind though and I think that is what the devs were going for. That's a very poor incentive to get players to skill into something. I'm never going to grind SP for a weapon category I don't like just to use a small handful of officer weapons in that category, if I was going to do that, then I would have already skilled up deeply into sniper rifles and ARs since they've had officer stuff since beta. There really is no downside to giving players only what they can use. If Dust is never getting a player market to sell your unwanted salvage, it needs a smarter salvage system. Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
Brotherband REMNANT ENFORCERS 13	Posted - 2014.07.12 21:02:00 - [12] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Brotherband wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: When the new Officer Items are launched, we intend to try and boost the rates for sure. Any way to make the salvage drops based on what the player is skilled into? for example, I have no use for an officer AR since I have 0 skills in ARs, but I have proficiency is forge guns and scrambler rifles, so I would like the salvage system to give me officer weapons of only those categories. That would take out the grind though and I think that is what the devs were going for. That's a very poor incentive to get players to skill into something. I'm never going to grind SP for a weapon category I don't like just to use a small handful of officer weapons in that category, if I was going to do that, then I would have already skilled up deeply into sniper rifles and ARs since they've had officer stuff since beta. There really is no downside to giving players only what they can use. . I was talking about battle grinding Am I the only one who still uses the ion pistol
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 4288	Posted - 2014.07.12 21:02:00 - [13] - Quote I quit looking at my Salvage because nothing worth a ** came through for months. Militia Injectors, Standard AV grenades, just laughable **. Didn't matter who or what I destroyed, I was going to get 1x MLT Uplink, or something equally stupid. I either want a higher payout percentage of what I destroy, or their Equipment. PSN: The_Rynoceros Destiny beta SoonGäó Console Master Race
Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1496	Posted - 2014.07.12 21:05:00 - [14] - Quote Brotherband wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: When the new Officer Items are launched, we intend to try and boost the rates for sure. Any way to make the salvage drops based on what the player is skilled into? for example, I have no use for an officer AR since I have 0 skills in ARs, but I have proficiency is forge guns and scrambler rifles, so I would like the salvage system to give me officer weapons of only those categories. That would take out the grind though and I think that is what the devs were going for. The idea was to create scarcity to promote trading. Now that trading is pretty much off the table there's little reason not to skew the loot RNG to prefer usable items. I don't think however that it should be 100% and, depending on how the loot table works, basing it on your skills could end up punishing you for diversifying which would be terribad design. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 444	Posted - 2014.07.12 21:16:00 - [15] - Quote Kinda seems like, I got some Gastun's forges and some Krin's last week, after nothing for... I dunno, weeks so far as I can remember. Somebody in another thread (I forget which) had the suggestion to have an NPC market you can sell your crap back to, even at a reduced ISK rate. Would be nice to get ISK in return for gear I'll never use. Also, if this happens, we need a "send back to the foundry and melt it out of existence" option for Thales. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
The Eristic Dust 90210 561	Posted - 2014.07.12 21:17:00 - [16] - Quote Pretty much everything needs to go into the salvage table along with enemy gear lost and the drop rate needs to go up. It's good in PC, so-so in FW, complete crap in Pubs. Considering there will be no fully-implemented economy, the system needs to be made more meaningful for the regular player. Reality is the original Rorschach. Verily! So much for all that.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4986	Posted - 2014.07.12 21:41:00 - [17] - Quote What a load of Balacs. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 2099	Posted - 2014.07.12 21:42:00 - [18] - Quote J4yne C0bb wrote: I got some Gastun's forges Unbelievably I have never... ever... recieved a Gastun Forge, but I have Gastun HMGs and Thales and Wolfman SCP coming outa my bumhole... "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Luther Mandrix WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 297	Posted - 2014.07.12 21:47:00 - [19] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: When the new Officer Items are launched, we intend to try and boost the rates for sure. Thank the Empress
J4yne C0bb Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 445	Posted - 2014.07.12 23:07:00 - [20] - Quote Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: J4yne C0bb wrote: I got some Gastun's forges Unbelievably I have never... ever... recieved a Gastun Forge, but I have Gastun HMGs and Thales and Wolfman SCP coming outa my bumhole... I haven't the nerve to actually use them yet, cause I don't play with assault forges, mostly my Kaal, and I'd had to waste em. I need to get gud with that variation first. We should at least be able to trade gear between ourselves, as we can with ISK. That way, I can trade the Krin's on my heavy punch over to J4yne, my logi, and trade all the officer heavy stuff on J4yne over to Punch. And I will never trade the Thale's on either character, if only to keep them out of circulation. Min Logi \| aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman

Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 496	Posted - 2014.07.12 23:50:00 - [21] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: When the new Officer Items are launched, we intend to try and boost the rates for sure. Oh god, A new officer stomp incoming....
Yeeeuuuupppp uptown456 Dark Taboo 444	Posted - 2014.07.13 00:10:00 - [22] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: When the new Officer Items are launched, we intend to try and boost the rates for sure. Thank you Rage Proficiency V Mic status: Muted Storage Wars Champion.
castba Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 508	Posted - 2014.07.13 00:22:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: When the new Officer Items are launched, we intend to try and boost the rates for sure. Boost drop rates to Chromosome levels?
deezy dabest Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers IMMORTAL REGIME 760	Posted - 2014.07.13 00:22:00 - [24] - Quote Make the officer weapon awarded be based on the "favorite weapon" for that battle. Laser focused in a room full of mirrors. Everything you ever wanted coming SoonGäó just keep buying boosters.
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 11	Posted - 2014.07.13 00:39:00 - [25] - Quote deezy dabest wrote: Make the officer weapon awarded be based on the "favorite weapon" for that battle. no because that allows vehicle kills..i wish favorite weapon rendered turrets no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave
Malkai Inos Any Given Day 1496	Posted - 2014.07.13 01:12:00 - [26] - Quote castba wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: When the new Officer Items are launched, we intend to try and boost the rates for sure. Boost drop rates to Chromosome levels? I honestly think that would push it. I've gotten 10 officer something-something at least two times a day. They must remain nigh impossible to run consistently or officer could easily become the new pub-stomp meta with very negative impact on the already lacking NPE. You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
Arcturis Vanguard Red Star. EoN. 175	Posted - 2014.07.13 03:24:00 - [27] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: I keep gettin Krin's, at least 6 each day i play. Now as for the ONLY one icare about... The SMG... 15 LIFETIME. All others are about equal, at 30-40 apiece Open beta launch vet. Only three (3) Cala's ever. Took three Balac's gar today first officer drop in well over a month. I've been very disappointed in the loot drop change. You guys, CCP, told us it was because you didn't want to saturate the player market because we were to have a trading market soon Gäó. Please adjust loot drops to make them more enjoyable. And remove the c27 sniper rifle, the advanced variant. I heard its terrible and stats are not impressive. I have far to many drop in my algorithm. Amarr Heavy V Amarr Assault V Caldari Scout V Caldari logistic IV Prof V HMG & FORGE Prof IV CR, SMG Prof III ScR
SgtMajSquish MLBJ Consolidated Dust 187	Posted - 2014.07.13 03:28:00 - [28] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Brotherband wrote: KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: When the new Officer Items are launched, we intend to try and boost the rates for sure. Any way to make the salvage drops based on what the player is skilled into? for example, I have no use for an officer AR since I have 0 skills in ARs, but I have proficiency is forge guns and scrambler rifles, so I would like the salvage system to give me officer weapons of only those categories. That would take out the grind though and I think that is what the devs were going for. That's a very poor incentive to get players to skill into something. I'm never going to grind SP for a weapon category I don't like just to use a small handful of officer weapons in that category, if I was going to do that, then I would have already skilled up deeply into sniper rifles and ARs since they've had officer stuff since beta. There really is no downside to giving players only what they can use. If Dust is never getting a player market to sell your unwanted salvage, it needs a smarter salvage system. The game needs a smarter everything, but you don't see that happening. To Everyone Who Says They'll Never Play Dust Again, I'll see you tomorrow
Arcturis Vanguard Red Star. EoN. 175	Posted - 2014.07.13 03:33:00 - [29] - Quote J4yne C0bb wrote: Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote: J4yne C0bb wrote: I got some Gastun's forges Unbelievably I have never... ever... recieved a Gastun Forge, but I have Gastun HMGs and Thales and Wolfman SCP coming outa my bumhole... I haven't the nerve to actually use them yet, cause I don't play with assault forges, mostly my Kaal, and I'd had to waste em. I need to get gud with that variation first. We should at least be able to trade gear between ourselves, as we can with ISK. That way, I can trade the Krin's on my heavy punch over to J4yne, my logi, and trade all the officer heavy stuff on J4yne over to Punch. And I will never trade the Thale's on either character, if only to keep them out of circulation. Wow bud you sure have your facts wrong about gastun's forge. If your use to the kaal then run the gastun. It charges faster then the ishukone, holds charge, 6 round clip. It's bad as*. Amarr Heavy V Amarr Assault V Caldari Scout V Caldari logistic IV Prof V HMG & FORGE Prof IV CR, SMG Prof III ScR
LUGMOS YELLOW JESUS EXP FORCE 594	Posted - 2014.07.13 04:10:00 - [30] - Quote The day before yesterday I got a Wolfman's drop one match, and the next match I got some Krin's Quafe A question doesn't always have an answer, but a problem does, So what is DUST? A problem or a question?

bogeyman m Minmatar Republic 338	Posted - 2014.07.13 14:33:00 - [31] - Quote I rarely get salvage... Which I think is ironic, for a Minmatar. Duct tape 2.0 ... Have WD-40; will travel.


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