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NoxMort3m
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:57:00 -
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Were not going to get a player market anytime soon if at all.
Give us a option to sell our assets to an npc market, i dont even care if its for leas than in market value
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Thumb Green
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:08:00 -
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Yeah, I've got enough crap I won't use that I could make an absurd amount of ISK selling at 50% of the value. Which is kind of odd considering how rarely I get salvage although 99% of the time it's crap I don't want so I guess it works out.
Can't say I'm all that surprised.
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:21:00 -
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The problem is that there is no actual "Sell to NPC" option in EVE, you can either sell it to another player, or process it into raw materials and sell that to other players or use it to make something else. Since Dust assets are actual items on the EVE server, there probably isn't a way to actually do it without writing that code into TQ itself, and I don't think that's within the Development capabilities of Dust anymore.
That aside, I would love this feature, I just fear it may not be possible.
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:24:00 -
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We Need A Selection In The Neocom just About Setting Up Your Market Page
And Add The Option Of Seeing Everybody Elses page, A search Feature would go a long way as well
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:26:00 -
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Who needs 76 core locus grenades anyway.
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Zelda Harkinian
Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:43:00 -
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we can give isk to other players... I wonder how feasible it would be to write code that would allow us to give items to other players too? Then we can make deals like "I'll give you x isk if you give me y item." |

Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.07.11 22:00:00 -
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Do it. Do it, now.
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Soulja Ghostface
MCDUSTDONALDS
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Posted - 2014.07.11 22:00:00 -
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Zelda Harkinian wrote:we can give isk to other players... I wonder how feasible it would be to write code that would allow us to give items to other players too? Then we can make deals like "I'll give you x isk if you give me y item, Then Take The ISK Without Giving The Items." A Good Way To Screw People Over?
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The Eristic
Dust 90210
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Posted - 2014.07.11 22:18:00 -
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Zelda Harkinian wrote:we can give isk to other players... I wonder how feasible it would be to write code that would allow us to give items to other players too? Then we can make deals like "I'll give you x isk if you give me y item."
It really should not be difficult at all to enable asset transfers, since P2P isk transfer is already in place. Back end ought to involve next to nothing, like less than a day's work for someone who knows what's up unless something is seriously screwy (which is a real possibility, I guess!), though the little front end tweak for the UI might require a dreaded client update. They just have to get somebody to, you know, actually do it.
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NoxMort3m
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Posted - 2014.07.12 01:14:00 -
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I dont think it would be too difficult but what do i know, heres to hoping a dev cares as much as we do
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.12 01:16:00 -
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I started skilling into everything just so I could use up the crap that's in my inventory. |

Sergeant Sazu
SINISTER DEATH SQUAD
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Posted - 2014.07.12 02:29:00 -
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I would totally delete my 36 Thale's in exchange for truckloads of ISK. I hate redline snipers so it's best to get rid of the tool for it.
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Mike De Luca
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.12 02:53:00 -
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Agreed, although it is kinda fun to run joke fits to get rid of crap I don't want to unclusterfk my assets.
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NoxMort3m
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Posted - 2014.07.12 07:00:00 -
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Mike De Luca wrote:Agreed, although it is kinda fun to run joke fits to get rid of crap I don't want to unclusterfk my assets. I do the same thing lol but wouldnt it be nice if you could just click sell instead of making all spare asset fits, not to mention the never ending list of red items i would love to be rid of,
I mean i would honestly rather just lose all assets i cant for zero isk than them all sit there useless( without skilling into literally everything to be able to use it all)
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Tank Gorilla
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Posted - 2014.07.12 07:01:00 -
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Great idea!
Lets just say a lot of people see me and run.....
I'll leave it at that.
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Tank Gorillarape
Killing them swiftly
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Posted - 2014.07.12 07:01:00 -
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Great idea!
Lets just say a lot of people see me and run.....
I'll leave it at that.
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Mike De Luca
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.12 14:39:00 -
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NoxMort3m wrote:Mike De Luca wrote:Agreed, although it is kinda fun to run joke fits to get rid of crap I don't want to unclusterfk my assets. I do the same thing lol but wouldnt it be nice if you could just click sell instead of making all spare asset fits, not to mention the never ending list of red items i would love to be rid of, I mean i would honestly rather just lose all assets i cant for zero isk than them all sit there useless( without skilling into literally everything to be able to use it all) Yes it would, but I can't right now. So I just have fun with it.
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Louis Domi
Pradox One Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.07.12 16:20:00 -
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Got about 400 charged snipers.... |

ladwar
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Posted - 2014.07.12 16:28:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:The problem is that there is no actual "Sell to NPC" option in EVE, you can either sell it to another player, or process it into raw materials and sell that to other players or use it to make something else. Since Dust assets are actual items on the EVE server, there probably isn't a way to actually do it without writing that code into TQ itself, and I don't think that's within the Development capabilities of Dust anymore.
That aside, I would love this feature, I just fear it may not be possible. you don't get. dust market is buy from NPC. NPC has no stock, its unlimited items. there will never be a shortage or a change in price or an overstock. ever. its buy from NPC. let us have a option to sell it back to the NPC market. the EVE market is just place holder with can't be bought sold or traded for dust items. its a list of stuff in dust, some of which may not even be active in dust. dust market has no actual connection to the eve market so the coding is stupid simple.
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Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.12 17:09:00 -
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we need a sell option ccp. +1 to OP |
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The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.12 17:10:00 -
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still no player market? what a great "mmo" DUST 514 is..
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Tank Gorilla
Killing them swiftly
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Posted - 2014.07.12 17:29:00 -
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The Jungian wrote:still no player market? what a great "mmo" DUST 514 is.. Shots fired ccp
Lets just say a lot of people see me and run.....
I'll leave it at that.
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NoxMort3m
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Posted - 2014.07.13 03:41:00 -
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I dont think its asking very much
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Derrith Erador
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.13 05:52:00 -
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bump. I want this.
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.07.13 05:56:00 -
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Someone didn't get the "Dust is on death's row" memo
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Leanna Boghin
Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.13 06:11:00 -
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Agreed we need some way of getting rid of this extra crap we have no intention of using. Get it done CCP or i will hold your blow up dolls hostage!!!
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Apocalyptic Destroyer
RestlessSpirits
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Posted - 2014.07.13 06:49:00 -
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I don't even care if CCP makes it to where you can give this stuff away for free, I just really want all my stuff gone ASAP.
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NoxMort3m
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Posted - 2014.07.15 00:01:00 -
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Ydubbs81 RND wrote:Someone didn't get the "Dust is on death's row" memo Dust is by far the best free to play game around and i will play it as long as is possible while ,this is my favorite fps i cant give up on it
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Spaceman-Rob
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.15 00:15:00 -
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You could do the same in mag right? Sell weapons and gear to npc for half the purchase price. |

Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.15 00:18:00 -
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Can they do that thing again where they took your salvage and paid you for it? I got a bunch of stuff that I will never use and like you said, I'm not expecting a player market to happen anyway. I want rid of that crap. |
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Ahmeenit noSPever
Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.15 00:24:00 -
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Blormp! |

Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.07.15 01:00:00 -
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This would be amazing. I would even settle for the ability to destroy things if I don't want them cluttering up my assets.
Chances of any of this happening: 0.01% with a 0.01% margin of error.
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NoxMort3m
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Posted - 2014.07.17 06:17:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:bump. I want this. Double bump
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Kalante Schiffer
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Posted - 2014.07.17 06:31:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:The problem is that there is no actual "Sell to NPC" option in EVE, you can either sell it to another player, or process it into raw materials and sell that to other players or use it to make something else. Since Dust assets are actual items on the EVE server, there probably isn't a way to actually do it without writing that code into TQ itself, and I don't think that's within the Development capabilities of Dust anymore.
That aside, I would love this feature, I just fear it may not be possible. why does everything has to be so complicated in this game? just a put a sell option there dammmmmmmmmmm
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.07.17 06:41:00 -
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If this is going to be the case, then there will need to be more ISK SINKS to compensate because then you will see an influx of ISK coming into the game therefore it stands to reason that we need a way to remove that ISK. CCP can implement that in multiple ways at once.
1. Upkeep cost for using a District in PC. 2. An NPC sales tax on all sales made to the NPC.
I'm not sure what else to implement since we won't have a secondary market, no manufacturing, and other stuff (all that is going to Legion instead).
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
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Posted - 2014.07.17 09:45:00 -
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There is VERY simple implementation. - without a TOONS of coding -2 buttons - 'sell' and 'confirm' -2 line database - tranfer item and deduct ISK
Just select ONE dev account (Eve or Dust/Legion) and transfer all items to it what ppl need to sell :) Nice and easy.
If no dev want it... I can be like placeholder for it. (also Eve/Dust side) I can transfer 20% of isk for every item that you need to sell. You can put it at any station that you are. Dont worry I have transport and a BIG furnance for it :)
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Sergeant Sazu
SINISTER DEATH SQUAD
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Posted - 2014.07.17 11:45:00 -
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Jack Boost wrote:There is VERY simple implementation. - without a TOONS of coding -2 buttons - 'sell' and 'confirm' -2 line database - tranfer item and deduct ISK
Just select ONE dev account (Eve or Dust/Legion) and transfer all items to it what ppl need to sell :) Nice and easy.
If no dev want it... I can be like placeholder for it. (also Eve/Dust side) I can transfer 20% of isk for every item that you need to sell. You can put it at any station that you are. Dont worry I have transport and a BIG furnance for it :)
Dust currently doesn't have the coding for transfering items, that would take a bit of time to add.
I think the simplicity you meant is "delete item" and "add ISK to wallet", which is the point of this topic. Getting rid of the random salvage you're not skilled into.
As overly complicated as coding is, "delete" and "add ISK" would be relatively easy for CCP to implement. I think.
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VikingKong iBUN
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 11:55:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:If this is going to be the case, then there will need to be more ISK SINKS to compensate because then you will see an influx of ISK coming into the game therefore it stands to reason that we need a way to remove that ISK. CCP can implement that in multiple ways at once.
1. Upkeep cost for using a District in PC. 2. An NPC sales tax on all sales made to the NPC.
I'm not sure what else to implement since we won't have a secondary market, no manufacturing, and other stuff (all that is going to Legion instead).
Please link me to where CCP actually confirm that there will be nothing in DUST and it's all going into Legion instead. Prove it please. |

VikingKong iBUN
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Posted - 2014.07.17 11:58:00 -
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Sergeant Sazu wrote:Jack Boost wrote:There is VERY simple implementation. - without a TOONS of coding -2 buttons - 'sell' and 'confirm' -2 line database - tranfer item and deduct ISK
Just select ONE dev account (Eve or Dust/Legion) and transfer all items to it what ppl need to sell :) Nice and easy.
If no dev want it... I can be like placeholder for it. (also Eve/Dust side) I can transfer 20% of isk for every item that you need to sell. You can put it at any station that you are. Dont worry I have transport and a BIG furnance for it :)
Dust currently doesn't have the coding for transfering items, that would take a bit of time to add. I think the simplicity you meant is "delete item" and "add ISK to wallet", which is the point of this topic. Getting rid of the random salvage you're not skilled into. As overly complicated as coding is, "delete" and "add ISK" would be relatively easy for CCP to implement. I think. I think most of us wouldn't even care about the isk, i'd happily scrap all the pointless **** in my inventory just so wouldn't have to scroll through it all any more. |

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Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn
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Posted - 2014.07.17 12:08:00 -
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+1
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Posted - 2014.07.17 12:58:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:You could do the same in mag right? Sell weapons and gear to npc for half the purchase price.
You only had one copy in MAG. So there was no need for selling. However, you could respec to get rid of mistakes. |

Patt MaCrotch
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 13:26:00 -
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I played Defiance and that game had a simple, effective, trading option between players. You both offer something in a trading screen, if both of you agree then you both click "OK", done deal. If one of you didn't like the deal that person hit cancel, no deal. Simple. |

The Jungian
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.17 13:34:00 -
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Truly a feature that should have been in the game since day 0.
Massive disappointed in that CCP never implemented it either, after so many promises.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.07.17 13:38:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:The problem is that there is no actual "Sell to NPC" option in EVE, you can either sell it to another player, or process it into raw materials and sell that to other players or use it to make something else. Since Dust assets are actual items on the EVE server, there probably isn't a way to actually do it without writing that code into TQ itself, and I don't think that's within the Development capabilities of Dust anymore.
That aside, I would love this feature, I just fear it may not be possible. CCP already has a sell-assets-to-NPC-market script because they have run it multiple times back when we got respecs. Don't think it would be too difficult to move that over to a player command per specific items.
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NoxMort3m
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Posted - 2014.07.18 03:19:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Pokey Dravon wrote:The problem is that there is no actual "Sell to NPC" option in EVE, you can either sell it to another player, or process it into raw materials and sell that to other players or use it to make something else. Since Dust assets are actual items on the EVE server, there probably isn't a way to actually do it without writing that code into TQ itself, and I don't think that's within the Development capabilities of Dust anymore.
That aside, I would love this feature, I just fear it may not be possible. CCP already has a sell-assets-to-NPC-market script because they have run it multiple times back when we got respecs. Don't think it would be too difficult to move that over to a player command per specific items. Your a genius idk why i didnt realize that
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
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Posted - 2014.07.18 08:08:00 -
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I buy everyting you want to sell :) My factories need a lot of trit ;)
Anyway I probably will get more trit then Chribba from https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Veldnaught
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
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Posted - 2014.07.18 08:32:00 -
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You surely will, for me it's all about the Veldspar 
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Broonfondle Majikthies
Dogs of War Gaming
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Posted - 2014.07.18 09:10:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:The problem is that there is no actual "Sell to NPC" option in EVE, you can either sell it to another player, or process it into raw materials and sell that to other players or use it to make something else. Since Dust assets are actual items on the EVE server, there probably isn't a way to actually do it without writing that code into TQ itself, and I don't think that's within the Development capabilities of Dust anymore.
That aside, I would love this feature, I just fear it may not be possible. Actually yes there is, but only for certain items. NPC's place buy orders in certain systems. Admittedly not for any meaningful items. Mostly just stuff like antibiotics which have no practical use in production.
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
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Posted - 2014.07.18 09:13:00 -
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Question for Chribba :)
Do you consider similiar operation in 0.0? There is GAZILIONS of Veld :) When it 'pop' you feel relief :)
Are you thinking that ppl will 'troll you' or you have solid reputanion at everyone that you will peacefuly mine in 0.0?
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Jack Boost
Zarena Family
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Posted - 2014.07.18 09:17:00 -
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Question for Chribba 2 :)
At similiar conditions with CCP... do you will build 'Jump Gate' to 0.0 from 1.0 space?
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ChribbaX
Otherworld Enterprises Dust Control Otherworld Empire Productions
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Posted - 2014.07.18 09:41:00 -
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I'm sure that there's two camps, one camp that will let me mine in peace after getting a screenshot with me, and the other camp that will totally see me explode for a Chribba-killmail haha
And I don't think I will have the logistics needed to create my own jump-gates nor expect CCP to assist me with their /tr magic
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NoxMort3m
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Posted - 2014.07.20 02:23:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2014.07.20 02:27:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:The problem is that there is no actual "Sell to NPC" option in EVE, .
This is the kind of reasoning why dust 514 is failing as it is.
EVE this, EVE that.
we dont care a tiny bitty cr4p about EVE.
Let me sell what i cant use.
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
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Posted - 2014.07.20 02:47:00 -
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This was one of those weird things that obviously should of existed in the kind of game dust is, some sort of player to player trading. I think the issue was CCP never implemented a NPC option because they planned to implement many things like a player market in Beta. Its pretty clear though that Dust got scrapped quickly after release and stripped down to a skeleton crew whose job it was to tweak the game around enough to stimulate aurum sales while they worked on future projects.
Beyond balances from Rattatai I wouldn't expect anything else to come from CCP. I suspect Rattatai's job is to patch up all the holes in the system left by the cut and run development job when Dust was shoved out of Beta and continue to stimulate Aurum sales until they have another project to place on the Tranquility server. Maybe Legion? Maybe EVE football space soccer golf in 3d holograms.... who knows. That said, Rattatai is doing a bang up job, just sadly he's doing so to a terminal game. |

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Posted - 2014.07.20 09:06:00 -
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NoxMort3m
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Posted - 2014.07.29 00:27:00 -
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Ccp needs to realize how much of a priority this should be
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