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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:55:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:
My problems with Zatara are more along the lines that he likes to stab too many people in the backs, and go back on his promises. That said, that is part of New Eden, and while I didn't vote for him, this is not why.
I didn't vote for him because his vision doesn't agree with mine. That said, I appreciate your feedback, but at the same time it is unsubstanciated and might be considered mud slinging. Unless you have proof, your argument is irrelevant.
Until you speak with me, drawing conclusions about who stabbed what back (aside from one backstab I did which was to DNS and planned all along after THEY BACKSTABBED TSO's) is really just plain silly. I am sad our visions for dust to be better did not meet though.
(Turn around) Every now and then I get a little bit lonely And you're never coming round
(Turn around) Every now and then I get a little bit tired Of listening to the sound of my tears
(Turn around) Every now and then I get a little bit nervous That the best of all the years have gone by
(Turn around) Every now and then I get a little bit terrified And then I see the look in your eyes (Turn Around, bright eyes) Every now and then I fall apart (Turn Around, bright eyes) Every now and then I fall apart
see you space cowboy...
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8213
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:56:00 -
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Seymour KrelbornX wrote:8213 wrote:Seymour KrelbornX wrote:8213 wrote:One of the Candidates, Zatara Rought, played Gallente FW all day to obtain the glitched/broken Federation Assault Rifles when they had the accidental 1000rpm fire-rate.
He blatantly tried to obtain a weapon to CHEAT in this game. He tried to further himself and his corporation through taking advantage of clear broken mechanics and cheating.
Chasing the FoTM is one thing, but to flat out take it a step further and cheat is NOT who you should have for CPM. I have zero doubts that he will use his CPM power only to obtain unfair advantages for himself. pretty sure everyone in pc did....because if they didn't they had a greater chance of losing districts to those that did.... you lack understanding of the bigger picture young one.... I'm pretty sure that everyone DIDN'T. I was there. I was in the FW lobbies, and I was in the PC matches. I'd say less than 1% of the PC players chased after that glitch. And the only ones who did and used it were Fatal Absolution lead by Zatara himself, and Zatara himself. When I confronted Zatara about trying to obtain the glitched weapons he thought it was funny. He saw nothing wrong with cheating. The bigger picture you speak of, I know plenty. But cheating has no place in this game, and certianly not by a CPM candidate. lol....now I know you are just a troll.... or the worst pc player ever....btw what were you doing in gal fw that day? I was in Caldari and saw him on the other end.
Pubs are those pesky things that we need to get our SP.
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Forlorn Destrier
Vengeance Unbound
2675
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:58:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:
My problems with Zatara are more along the lines that he likes to stab too many people in the backs, and go back on his promises. That said, that is part of New Eden, and while I didn't vote for him, this is not why.
I didn't vote for him because his vision doesn't agree with mine. That said, I appreciate your feedback, but at the same time it is unsubstanciated and might be considered mud slinging. Unless you have proof, your argument is irrelevant.
Until you speak with me, drawing conclusions about who stabbed what back (aside from one backstab I did which was to DNS and planned all along after THEY BACKSTABBED TSO's) is really just plain silly. I am sad our visions for dust to be better did not meet though.
Let's see - you were applying for membership to Legacy Rising, and during this process you actively took districts from us. Seems like backstabbing to me.
Don't get me wrong - I'm ok with what you did - this is New Eden and I've seen much worse and not taken offense, which is why I didn't use this as a reason not to vote for you.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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8213
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:59:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:8213 wrote: Part of me wants to not do this, but I hear "your bad, kid" so much on these forums, sohere we go:
Former MLG Halo player. Ranked 7 world in HALO 2 Ranked 1 For CoD: Blops(FFA and TDM) Ranked top 30 CoD: MW2 Ranked top 50 Counterstrike 3x Ranked 1 DOOM 95 I'm most proud of that one. 2 successful YouTube channels centering around FPS (one is more about commentary I'll admit) And I dabbled in Quake Arena
I'm not bad at this game by any stretch. I'm a lifelong FPS player. I'll admit, as I'm older, my reaction times aren't what they used to be. But the sh*t I've witnessed in this game, every single match doesn't make sense. Maybe it's my PS3, maybe its my connection to Port 80. Maybe its me... over my career in FPS, I've seen so match crap that I learned to become humble really quick.
But, when I fire a volley of 1500 damage into another player -and he is still able to run off- I start to wonder. When I walked up to someone with a shotgun, and not even get a hitmarker, but watch my shot tear into him, and I get turned on, I start to wonder. When I'm 6m away from a guy with 1400 HP in a Heavy, and I fire into him, but his Duvolle kills me faster, I start to wonder. When I'm 5m meters behind a wall, and I watch tracers fly off my screen but still take damage, I start to wonder. When I'm shooting at someone and my bullets don't do anything then as I die, an invisible wall appears, i start to wonder. When I start to take damage before the opponent is even facing me and their gun is firing, I start to wonder When my Militia AR can drop a Caldari Logi from 90m out, I start to wonder
I'm not naive, I know when the game isn't working. I know when lag is in or out of my favor. I know when software isn't running correctly.
Don't worry people, this guy's credibility it 100% true. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1478860#post1478860
Funny, maybe I'm a prime candidate for CPM... except I've stated many times that I don't believe in the position. So, are you going to address your cheating, or not?
I know your FA buddies will vote for you, which is sad, because white paper clearly states that CPM should be a casual player's position, so why is the CEO of a major corporation in the game running? When have you ever demostrated being a community advocate?
Pubs are those pesky things that we need to get our SP.
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Benjamin Ciscko
General Tso's Alliance
2461
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:02:00 -
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8213 wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:8213 wrote: Part of me wants to not do this, but I hear "your bad, kid" so much on these forums, sohere we go:
Former MLG Halo player. Ranked 7 world in HALO 2 Ranked 1 For CoD: Blops(FFA and TDM) Ranked top 30 CoD: MW2 Ranked top 50 Counterstrike 3x Ranked 1 DOOM 95 I'm most proud of that one. 2 successful YouTube channels centering around FPS (one is more about commentary I'll admit) And I dabbled in Quake Arena
I'm not bad at this game by any stretch. I'm a lifelong FPS player. I'll admit, as I'm older, my reaction times aren't what they used to be. But the sh*t I've witnessed in this game, every single match doesn't make sense. Maybe it's my PS3, maybe its my connection to Port 80. Maybe its me... over my career in FPS, I've seen so match crap that I learned to become humble really quick.
But, when I fire a volley of 1500 damage into another player -and he is still able to run off- I start to wonder. When I walked up to someone with a shotgun, and not even get a hitmarker, but watch my shot tear into him, and I get turned on, I start to wonder. When I'm 6m away from a guy with 1400 HP in a Heavy, and I fire into him, but his Duvolle kills me faster, I start to wonder. When I'm 5m meters behind a wall, and I watch tracers fly off my screen but still take damage, I start to wonder. When I'm shooting at someone and my bullets don't do anything then as I die, an invisible wall appears, i start to wonder. When I start to take damage before the opponent is even facing me and their gun is firing, I start to wonder When my Militia AR can drop a Caldari Logi from 90m out, I start to wonder
I'm not naive, I know when the game isn't working. I know when lag is in or out of my favor. I know when software isn't running correctly.
Don't worry people, this guy's credibility it 100% true. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1478860#post1478860 Funny, maybe I'm a prime candidate for CPM... except I've stated many times that I don't believe in the position. So, are you going to address your cheating, or not? I know your FA buddies will vote for you, which is sad, because white paper clearly states that CPM should be a casual player's position, so why is the CEO of a major corporation in the game running? When have you ever demostrated being a community advocate? Why not?
And BTW CEO Pyrex is a casual player and he's the last person you would want influencing the game why you wouldn't want someone with a greater understanding of the game boggles my mind.
Tanker/Logi
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:03:00 -
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Seymour KrelbornX wrote: pretty sure everyone in pc did....because if they didn't they had a greater chance of losing districts to those that did....
you lack understanding of the bigger picture young one....
Not everyone did.
Heck, I remember someone in ERA Leadership (Maybe Lunatic Kota?) refusing to field PC matches until it was fixed.
Long Live The Anime Empire
"You know what? You really, REALLY, like to dampen the mood" - Lea Silencio
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Knight Soiaire
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
5422
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:03:00 -
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How Are Overpowered Weapons Real If Our Eyes Are Not Real?
I'm free!
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:10:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:
Let's see - you were applying for membership to Legacy Rising, and during this process you actively took districts from us. Seems like backstabbing to me.
Don't get me wrong - I'm ok with what you did - this is New Eden and I've seen much worse and not taken offense, which is why I didn't use this as a reason not to vote for you.
I took districts from Legacy Rising? I think I rang on a contract for ML or STB maybe. I'm actually really interested in this BTW, not to derail his bullshit but I may owe somebody an apology.
Who's corps were in LR?
Candidate for CPM1 Go VOTE! Dust514.com
They call me Princess Zatata <3
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Forlorn Destrier
Vengeance Unbound
2678
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:16:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:
Let's see - you were applying for membership to Legacy Rising, and during this process you actively took districts from us. Seems like backstabbing to me.
Don't get me wrong - I'm ok with what you did - this is New Eden and I've seen much worse and not taken offense, which is why I didn't use this as a reason not to vote for you.
I took districts from Legacy Rising? I think I rang on a contract for ML or STB maybe. I'm actually really interested in this BTW, not to derail his bullshit but I may owe somebody an apology. Who's corps were in LR?
I believe you were ringing, as I think about it now. I had sent you an email from my Eve character explaining the situation and heard nothing but crickets in response. It pissed a lot of my leadership off at the time. Primary contact for recruitment would have been the CEO for KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND, though you might have worked through one of my other directors. I don't recall which of our corps you fought against - that was toward the end of 2013, and I've slept some since then.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Forlorn Destrier
Vengeance Unbound
2678
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:18:00 -
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And yes, it was likely a contract with STB - we had a a bit of a rivalry with them and their alliance at the time.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION
1297
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:18:00 -
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I didn't vote for mr Zatara but the reasoning was certainly not because of trivial things like a day to mess around with a broken weapon lol.
Just to clarify - I have nothing against Zatara I just had a corp mate and others to support first. :)
Good Luck to all candidates.
-=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=-
MY LIFE FOR AIUR!
"I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3587
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:23:00 -
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Forlorn Destrier wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:
Let's see - you were applying for membership to Legacy Rising, and during this process you actively took districts from us. Seems like backstabbing to me.
Don't get me wrong - I'm ok with what you did - this is New Eden and I've seen much worse and not taken offense, which is why I didn't use this as a reason not to vote for you.
I took districts from Legacy Rising? I think I rang on a contract for ML or STB maybe. I'm actually really interested in this BTW, not to derail his bullshit but I may owe somebody an apology. Who's corps were in LR? I believe you were ringing, as I think about it now. I had sent you an email from my Eve character explaining the situation and heard nothing but crickets in response. It pissed a lot of my leadership off at the time. Primary contact for recruitment would have been the CEO for KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND, though you might have worked through one of my other directors. I don't recall which of our corps you fought against - that was toward the end of 2013, and I've slept some since then.
I remember now. yeah, it was Rising Suns and you guys hired AE on the reup. I had actually contractually agreed to not fight you guys, but I spoke with your leader about it because I had already accepted the contract prior to. I did not flip any districts from FA and have not played you since. More a misunderstanding IMO than a backstab. The ONLY backstab I ever wanted to do was DNS. And that was retaliatory.
Candidate for CPM1 Go VOTE! Dust514.com
They call me Princess Zatata <3
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Major 0nslaught
19
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:28:00 -
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I voted zatara because I want to see the world burn.
Forgive me, I speak English.
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Forlorn Destrier
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:28:00 -
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Zatara Rought wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:Zatara Rought wrote:Forlorn Destrier wrote:
Let's see - you were applying for membership to Legacy Rising, and during this process you actively took districts from us. Seems like backstabbing to me.
Don't get me wrong - I'm ok with what you did - this is New Eden and I've seen much worse and not taken offense, which is why I didn't use this as a reason not to vote for you.
I took districts from Legacy Rising? I think I rang on a contract for ML or STB maybe. I'm actually really interested in this BTW, not to derail his bullshit but I may owe somebody an apology. Who's corps were in LR? I believe you were ringing, as I think about it now. I had sent you an email from my Eve character explaining the situation and heard nothing but crickets in response. It pissed a lot of my leadership off at the time. Primary contact for recruitment would have been the CEO for KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND, though you might have worked through one of my other directors. I don't recall which of our corps you fought against - that was toward the end of 2013, and I've slept some since then. I remember now. yeah, it was Rising Suns and you guys hired AE on the reup. I had actually contractually agreed to not fight you guys, but I spoke with your leader about it because I had already accepted the contract prior to. I did not flip any districts from FA and have not played you since. More a misunderstanding IMO than a backstab. The ONLY backstab I ever wanted to do was DNS. And that was retaliatory.
Oh LRA went belly up after I gave up leadership. I was executor of the alliance and was tired of the BS of getting the Eve side to pony up and fight for our Dust mercs - I've played Dust for over 2 years, and played Eve for nearly 7 years now. I did my best to try to build as much good will in Eve as I could for Dust - wasn't good enough. The only time I could convince my considerable Eve fleets to venture to Molden Heath to support our boots on the ground is when I would lead the fight.
We ran into General TSO's during that time by the way. We kicked their ass. Once LRA basically went belly up, General TSO's picked up the pieces and became more dominant in the region Eve side.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Forlorn Destrier
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:36:00 -
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I have to say though - when I did get the guys to show up Eve side, they loved knowing they killed expensive proto suits every 3 minutes - and would cheer (literally) during combat comms and immeidately ask during the battle what the result was. Had to yell at them to shut up when people showed in local. Also - they were even more ecstatic when we explained the Aurum suits they were killing as well.... They loved taking real money out of players hands. I just wish the love would have lasted - but we started having one of 2 things happen: 1) no combat Eve side, or 2) getting hit with fleets from the local pirate population at the same time we were fighting off the other Eve/Dust alliances - we could handle one or the other, but not both at once, sadly.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Cavani1EE7
The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo
136
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:37:00 -
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8213 wrote:One of the Candidates, Zatara Rought, played Gallente FW all day to obtain the glitched/broken Federation Assault Rifles when they had the accidental 1000rpm fire-rate.
He blatantly tried to obtain a weapon to CHEAT in this game. He tried to further himself and his corporation through taking advantage of clear broken mechanics and cheating.
Chasing the FoTM is one thing, but to flat out take it a step further and cheat is NOT who you should have for CPM. I have zero doubts that he will use his CPM power only to obtain unfair advantages for himself.
Himself and his alliance.
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DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.11 22:29:00 -
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8213 wrote:One of the Candidates, Zatara Rought, played Gallente FW all day to obtain the glitched/broken Federation Assault Rifles when they had the accidental 1000rpm fire-rate.
He blatantly tried to obtain a weapon to CHEAT in this game. He tried to further himself and his corporation through taking advantage of clear broken mechanics and cheating.
Chasing the FoTM is one thing, but to flat out take it a step further and cheat is NOT who you should have for CPM. I have zero doubts that he will use his CPM power only to obtain unfair advantages for himself. At least he hasn't destroyed an entire playstyle because his AR couldn't destroy it. |
Doctor Day
Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire.
322
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Posted - 2014.07.11 22:49:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1697
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Posted - 2014.07.11 22:52:00 -
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So? I fit a milita overdrive when they were broken on a sica when they were broken too so I could turn a tank into a frigate. Doesn't mean I don't want a balanced game. |
J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
440
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Posted - 2014.07.11 22:56:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:Might as well say the people who used the nitro tanks after 1.7 cheated. If I knew about it I would've gotten a handful for the lols. Yeah... how many of the CPM abused the hell out of the militia 100% fuel injector module, or the militia afterburners that could be fitted on HAVs for a short time?
The entire community abuses this kind of stuff, and it's mostly for the lulz until the frak up is un-fraked. This is a non-issue.
Min Logi | aka Punch R0ckgroin, fatman
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DontChimpOut
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.11 23:00:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:So? I fit a milita overdrive when they were broken on a sica when they were broken too so I could turn a tank into a frigate. Doesn't mean I don't want a balanced game. Everybody did that just to have fun. |
jenza aranda
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2014.07.11 23:01:00 -
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There is a fine line between cheating and abusing a broken weapon.
A good CPM doesn't avoid the broken weapon, a good CPM tries the broken weapon then gives CCP a detailed report.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10833
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Posted - 2014.07.11 23:05:00 -
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I used the FAR, loled, then reported it.
It was amusingly broken, and I had no ill intentions. I'm sure Zatara was the same.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.11 23:14:00 -
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Major 0nslaught wrote:I voted zatara because I want to see the world burn. And after all, that's what New Eden is all about!
see you space cowboy...
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Shadow of War88
0uter.Heaven
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Posted - 2014.07.11 23:34:00 -
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8213 wrote:One of the Candidates, Zatara Rought, played Gallente FW all day to obtain the glitched/broken Federation Assault Rifles when they had the accidental 1000rpm fire-rate.
He blatantly tried to obtain a weapon to CHEAT in this game. He tried to further himself and his corporation through taking advantage of clear broken mechanics and cheating.
Chasing the FoTM is one thing, but to flat out take it a step further and cheat is NOT who you should have for CPM. I have zero doubts that he will use his CPM power only to obtain unfair advantages for himself.
he needs all the advantages he can get xD
& justice for all
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Zatara Rought
General Tso's Alliance
3595
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Posted - 2014.07.12 00:01:00 -
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Shadow of War88 wrote:
he needs all the advantages he can get xD
All about dat balancing for PC, AIR!? xD
Candidate for CPM1 Go VOTE! Dust514.com
They call me Princess Zatata <3
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1699
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Posted - 2014.07.12 00:43:00 -
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DontChimpOut wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:So? I fit a milita overdrive when they were broken on a sica when they were broken too so I could turn a tank into a frigate. Doesn't mean I don't want a balanced game. Everybody did that just to have fun. I'm sure a lot of people got the assault rifle while it was broken for fun too. I didn't because I'll never fight for the frogs. |
Heimdallr69
Nyain San
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Posted - 2014.07.12 01:07:00 -
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8213 wrote:One of the Candidates, Zatara Rought, played Gallente FW all day to obtain the glitched/broken Federation Assault Rifles when they had the accidental 1000rpm fire-rate.
He blatantly tried to obtain a weapon to CHEAT in this game. He tried to further himself and his corporation through taking advantage of clear broken mechanics and cheating.
Chasing the FoTM is one thing, but to flat out take it a step further and cheat is NOT who you should have for CPM. I have zero doubts that he will use his CPM power only to obtain unfair advantages for himself. Let's not forget IWS he may not be the best but he stuck it out and kept the community up to date with as much as he could.. If I could vote he'd get mine.
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