DUST Search - Dust is in the best state of balance since forever....

Monkey MAC wrote:

Takahashi Kashuken wrote:

CommanderBolt wrote:

Takahashi Kashuken wrote:

CommanderBolt wrote:

WELL...............

By balance I mean, at equivalent levels I.E Proto vs proto - full good team vs full good team etc...

Of course the game still arbitrarily makes the gameplay unbalanced = because it stuffs nooberries into matches VS protostars like those Japanese train conductors cram people into trains in Tokyo!

Once again lolno

Vehicles vs infantry in a PC lolworthy because vehicles are ******* useless yet again

You are not doing it right if you find AV is taking you out easily.<<(By this I mean you must be playing too carelessly)
Sure I agree, it only really takes 1 good forge gunner to make a tankers life misery, however adapt your tactics.

If close range with a blaster is not working out, switch to a railgun and snipe. You can take multiple forge rounds, that heavy only needs a single railgun round to the face.

I know its not as simple as that but lets not pretend that tanks are 'useless' they are far from useless.

This is PC not pubs

They are useless, everything a vehicle can do infantry can do it better

Prehaps you shouldn't be trying to do what infantry can do then.
You are a highly mobile mechanized unit, I'm sure you can find something to do.

My ADS has plenty of roles I use it for.
The fact 1 skilled peson can kill 1 tank is called balance.


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CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1282	Posted - 2014.07.11 14:30:00 - [1] - Quote I see a lot of people talking about balance issues and that does include me from time to time. However I put some thought into it and I really do feel that Dust have never been in such a great state as it is now. For the first time since Chromosome I actually prefer the way the game is now VS Chromosome build. (And trust me I am a BIG Chromosome fanboy) CCP Keep up the good work, sure there are still a few kinks to iron out in terms of balance (Notably HMG and Assault suit tweaks) but overall I feel Dust is doing great. Hell the player count is actually increasing at the minute can you believe it! Now we just need to REALLY help new players out. Better matchmaking please CCP to keep those newbies in the game ;-) -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1282	Posted - 2014.07.11 14:34:00 - [2] - Quote Yokal Bob wrote: Prefer Chrome I will admit I did prefer the way things felt / the mechanics of chrome. However I honestly think CCP are well on track now. I do really miss a lot of what Chrome had to offer though. Especially that lovely white Surya I used to own.... :( -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1284	Posted - 2014.07.11 14:45:00 - [3] - Quote Takahashi Kashuken wrote: Dust? Balance? lolno WELL............... By balance I mean, at equivalent levels I.E Proto vs proto - full good team vs full good team etc... Of course the game still arbitrarily makes the gameplay unbalanced = because it stuffs nooberries into matches VS protostars like those Japanese train conductors cram people into trains in Tokyo! -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1284	Posted - 2014.07.11 14:47:00 - [4] - Quote Spaceman-Rob wrote: Same here, better than it ever has been previously, but try telling that to some of the deluded cuns that you'll find still hanging about these forums even though dust is a dead game to them. I will admit, in the past I was a nay-sayer but yea man you always find idiots that **** about everything yet still continue to visit the forums of this ~dead~ (yet actually growing) game.... It beats me it really does lol. -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1286	Posted - 2014.07.11 14:53:00 - [5] - Quote Takahashi Kashuken wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Takahashi Kashuken wrote: Dust? Balance? lolno WELL............... By balance I mean, at equivalent levels I.E Proto vs proto - full good team vs full good team etc... Of course the game still arbitrarily makes the gameplay unbalanced = because it stuffs nooberries into matches VS protostars like those Japanese train conductors cram people into trains in Tokyo! Once again lolno Vehicles vs infantry in a PC lolworthy because vehicles are ******* useless yet again You are not doing it right if you find AV is taking you out easily.<<(By this I mean you must be playing to carelessly) Sure I agree, it only really takes 1 good forge gunner to make a tankers life misery, however adapt your tactics. If close range with a blaster is not working out, switch to a railgun and snipe. You can take multiple forge rounds, that heavy only needs a single railgun round to the face. I know its not as simple as that but lets not pretend that tanks are 'useless' they are far from useless. -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1289	Posted - 2014.07.11 15:31:00 - [6] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Takahashi Kashuken wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Takahashi Kashuken wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: WELL............... By balance I mean, at equivalent levels I.E Proto vs proto - full good team vs full good team etc... Of course the game still arbitrarily makes the gameplay unbalanced = because it stuffs nooberries into matches VS protostars like those Japanese train conductors cram people into trains in Tokyo! Once again lolno Vehicles vs infantry in a PC lolworthy because vehicles are ******* useless yet again You are not doing it right if you find AV is taking you out easily.<<(By this I mean you must be playing too carelessly) Sure I agree, it only really takes 1 good forge gunner to make a tankers life misery, however adapt your tactics. If close range with a blaster is not working out, switch to a railgun and snipe. You can take multiple forge rounds, that heavy only needs a single railgun round to the face. I know its not as simple as that but lets not pretend that tanks are 'useless' they are far from useless. This is PC not pubs They are useless, everything a vehicle can do infantry can do it better Prehaps you shouldn't be trying to do what infantry can do then. You are a highly mobile mechanized unit, I'm sure you can find something to do. My ADS has plenty of roles I use it for. The fact 1 skilled peson can kill 1 tank is called balance. I have to agree. I have only limited experience using a tank in PC, the last one or two PC battles I have done more recently I was on the ground. In the past it was too easy for a tank to dominate any sort of AV not in heavy cover. Every open area even now is still the tanks playground. Besides there are many team options available with a tank. Have you tried running with small rail gunners Takahashi Kashuken? -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1291	Posted - 2014.07.11 15:45:00 - [7] - Quote Takahashi Kashuken wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: I have to agree. I have only limited experience using a tank in PC, the last one or two PC battles I have done more recently I was on the ground. In the past it was too easy for a tank to dominate any sort of AV not in heavy cover. Every open area even now is still the tanks playground. Besides there are many team options available with a tank. Have you tried running with small rail gunners Takahashi Kashuken? 3ppl? So it take 1 AV to now kill it even tho i have to use 3ppl? That is if i can fit on 2 more small turrets without having to gimp the overall fit because we are not allowed adv/proto hulls with improved slot layout and pg/cpu because thats too OP for infantry to deal with As for using a 3 turret tank in a PC lolno, not done because its pointless since the 2ppl are better use outside the tank actually doing something at a point No you dont have to do anything. Any time I run a tank it is a solo tank - as long as I do not get greedy I do fine. I was just asking if you have tried out the 3 man tank as I have corp mates that do it and it works great. That's all. By the way a 3 man tank is always going to be more 'squishy' than a one man tank however EHP/REP is not the only form of defence.... Oh by the way I do agree that they nerfed the Blaster with a little TOO much spread, reduce it a bit and there we go. I am also not a huge fan of the railgun range nerfs however I can see why they were necessary for the game. -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!