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trollface dot jpg
The Bacon Corporation
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Posted - 2014.07.11 06:42:00 -
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There are people out there concerned that increasing the speed of the assault suit will cut in on the scout's turf too much. I am here with words that should set you at ease and tame your bewildered senses.
QUIT YO BITCHIN!
The assault suit has 2x your hitbox size, less than half your scan/damping abilities, cannot equip cloaks and tank properly, and has only one equipment slot. Letting them match your speed might bruise your ego, but after the last few month's the assault has had to deal with, you can **** right the hell off.
Thank you for your time.
RIP MAG, you will be missed.
MAG Vet ~ Raven
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
229
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Posted - 2014.07.11 06:57:00 -
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Kincatacular!! |
Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1690
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Posted - 2014.07.11 06:58:00 -
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Hmm odd, by that logic assault should be concerned right now that scouts are just better assaults than assaults. Scouts are supposed to be E-war specialists. |
trollface dot jpg
The Bacon Corporation
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Posted - 2014.07.11 07:06:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Hmm odd, by that logic assault should be concerned right now that scouts are just better assaults than assaults. Scouts are supposed to be E-war specialists.
They are, and speed isn't E-war. Scouts shouldn't be afraid of an assault with the same move speed if they are using E-war properly since they have worse damps, scans, scan range and larger hitboxes.
RIP MAG, you will be missed.
MAG Vet ~ Raven
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3575
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Posted - 2014.07.11 07:09:00 -
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Oooh **** my Amarr assault can wiggle faster :D I gotta go tell True!
Run, hide in fear while you can for the Amarr Scout is on the hunt!
The eyes of God compelles you!!!
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trollface dot jpg
The Bacon Corporation
174
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Posted - 2014.07.11 07:20:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Oooh **** my Amarr assault can wiggle faster :D I gotta go tell True!
In addition to other buffs, you'll be happy about this one. Quote me.
RIP MAG, you will be missed.
MAG Vet ~ Raven
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Baal Omniscient
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1924
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Posted - 2014.07.11 07:24:00 -
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I see no fault with this logic.
Cross Atu for CPM1
Winmatar Assault, Proficiency 5 SMG's & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
658
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Posted - 2014.07.11 08:50:00 -
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So... can I get my Min Commando's speed buffed back up after this? 
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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Doctor Day
Fooly Cooly.
Anime Empire.
315
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Posted - 2014.07.11 09:54:00 -
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More strafing for me! |
trollface dot jpg
The Bacon Corporation
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:09:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:So... can I get my Min Commando's speed buffed back up after this?
I would like to see this. I saw no issues with the old speed since it's hitbox was so huge.
RIP MAG, you will be missed.
MAG Vet ~ Raven
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
3987
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:37:00 -
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Crimson ShieId wrote:So... can I get my Min Commando's speed buffed back up after this?
Buffed back to what?
"As well as stupid, Rattati is incredibly slow and accident-prone, and cannot even swim"
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TechMechMeds
Inner.Hell
3844
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:41:00 -
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Bravo!.
Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag before adding milk!.
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
2426
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:47:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:So... can I get my Min Commando's speed buffed back up after this? Buffed back to what?
Back to Velociraptor speed level at least.
PSN: ogamega
I'm not a chef, i'm just a man who likes to cook.
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
630
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:51:00 -
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trollface dot jpg wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:So... can I get my Min Commando's speed buffed back up after this? I would like to see this. I saw no issues with the old speed since it's hitbox was so huge.
Never happened. Much like the proposed Logi speed nerf, Rattati listened to reason and removed/postponed the change. This is why he is held in such high regard, because he actually listens to reason.
Melee Weapon of Choice: Nokia-3310 Prof. V
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hfderrtgvcd
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:54:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:So... can I get my Min Commando's speed buffed back up after this? I would like to see this. I saw no issues with the old speed since it's hitbox was so huge. Never happened. Much like the proposed Logi speed nerf, Rattati listened to reason and removed/postponed the change. This is why he is held in such high regard, because he actually listens to random posters trying to prevent their gear from being nerfed.
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Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
630
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Posted - 2014.07.11 15:57:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:So... can I get my Min Commando's speed buffed back up after this? I would like to see this. I saw no issues with the old speed since it's hitbox was so huge. Never happened. Much like the proposed Logi speed nerf, Rattati listened to reason and removed/postponed the change. This is why he is held in such high regard, because he actually listens to random posters trying to prevent their gear from being nerfed. FTFY
Yes, because the Min commando with its huge hitbox and low HP was clearly OP running at 6 m/s. 
Melee Weapon of Choice: Nokia-3310 Prof. V
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trollface dot jpg
The Bacon Corporation
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Posted - 2014.07.11 16:04:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:So... can I get my Min Commando's speed buffed back up after this? I would like to see this. I saw no issues with the old speed since it's hitbox was so huge. Never happened. Much like the proposed Logi speed nerf, Rattati listened to reason and removed/postponed the change. This is why he is held in such high regard, because he actually listens to random posters trying to prevent their gear from being nerfed. FTFY Yes, because the Min commando with its huge hitbox and low HP was clearly OP running at 6 m/s.
Had so much to drink last night I'm still heavily buzzed, I apologize for missing that. v_v But I would support a Minmando speed increase. In fact, if the assault speed increase goes through, you could just about bump them to the current assault speed. (maybe Logi speed?) Their hitbox compensates more than enough.
RIP MAG, you will be missed.
MAG Vet ~ Raven
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
6065
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Posted - 2014.07.11 16:24:00 -
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I think they veto'd nerfing the Min commando's speed after everyone asked what their reasoning was outside of "it's a popular suit." So if you're slower it's probably due to an increase in plate penalties.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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trollface dot jpg
The Bacon Corporation
187
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Posted - 2014.07.11 16:26:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:I think they veto'd nerfing the Min commando's speed after everyone asked what their reasoning was outside of "it's a popular suit." So if you're slower it's probably due to an increase in plate penalties.
Quite likely. Also, +1 in hopes of a future Whiskey-fueled Dust squad.
RIP MAG, you will be missed.
MAG Vet ~ Raven
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iKILLu osborne
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
61
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Posted - 2014.07.11 16:39:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:So... can I get my Min Commando's speed buffed back up after this? Buffed back to what? Back to Velociraptor speed level at least.
lmfao you sit almost caused me to **** my pants i was laughing so hard
here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol
after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
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hfderrtgvcd
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
71
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Posted - 2014.07.11 17:04:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Booby Tuesdays wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:So... can I get my Min Commando's speed buffed back up after this? I would like to see this. I saw no issues with the old speed since it's hitbox was so huge. Never happened. Much like the proposed Logi speed nerf, Rattati listened to reason and removed/postponed the change. This is why he is held in such high regard, because he actually listens to random posters trying to prevent their gear from being nerfed. FTFY Yes, because the Min commando with its huge hitbox and low HP was clearly OP running at 6 m/s.
Remeber when 1.8 launched and ccp said it was going to reduce sentinels base health? Then everyone complained, it was canceled, and now heavies are fotm
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5630
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Posted - 2014.07.11 17:05:00 -
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Just keep strafe speed low (lower it for scouts as well), and I'm happy
Good scouts don't rely on speed, they rely on dampening, scanning, and stamina.
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Jotun Izalaru
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2014.07.11 17:14:00 -
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The difference between a Medium strafing/backpedaling and a scout walking is too small.
This the only movement crisis a scout should be concerned about - everybody strafes too fast in this game, scouts included, and scout's base walking speed is too slow. |
Booby Tuesdays
Ahrendee Mercenaries
631
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Posted - 2014.07.11 17:24:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:
Remeber when 1.8 launched and ccp said it was going to reduce sentinels base health? Then everyone complained, it was canceled, and now heavies are fotm
Indeed, the issue there was the fact that we the players had not tested it out in the wild. Now that we have, it is blatantly obvious that HMG 1500 eHP heavies are EZ Mode, and CCP's internal play test was right for once. The last time they went nerfing things off a play test was the Mass Driver. Took almost 10 months to fix that mistake. This is why the community is skeptical of CCPs internal play tests.
Melee Weapon of Choice: Nokia-3310 Prof. V
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trollface dot jpg
The Bacon Corporation
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Posted - 2014.07.11 18:20:00 -
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Jotun Izalaru wrote:The difference between a Medium strafing/backpedaling and a scout walking is too small.
This the only movement crisis a scout should be concerned about - everybody strafes too fast in this game, scouts included, and scout's base walking speed is too slow.
Base walk speed for scouts is fine, backpeddling for every suit is too fast.
RIP MAG, you will be missed.
MAG Vet ~ Raven
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Jotun Izalaru
Goonfeet
151
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Posted - 2014.07.11 18:22:00 -
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trollface dot jpg wrote:Jotun Izalaru wrote:The difference between a Medium strafing/backpedaling and a scout walking is too small.
This the only movement crisis a scout should be concerned about - everybody strafes too fast in this game, scouts included, and scout's base walking speed is too slow. Base walk speed for scouts is fine, backpeddling for every suit is too fast.
Strafe speed in general too fast, but yeah, you're exactly right. I think CCP said earlier they feel good about the awful strafing/backpedaling so I feel like a Scout increase in base speed is the best 'compromise' if the problem HAS to be left alone. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
6078
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Posted - 2014.07.11 18:25:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Just keep strafe speed low (lower it for scouts as well), and I'm happy
Good scouts don't rely on speed, they rely on dampening, scanning, and stamina.
lol.
Speed is the only thing Minmatar suits have going for them and it's not even really much of an advantage.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Lynn Beck
Fooly Cooly.
Anime Empire.
2033
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Posted - 2014.07.11 18:42:00 -
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Moody, they did go ahead and nerf Min Commando, it used to sprint past 8 m/s with 2 kincats(and, coincidentally, 1/3 of my PG) it used to hit close to 8.2 or something, now its' 7.81, identical to the Basic frame and(wtf) slower than a GalSent stacking 3 kincats.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
6082
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Posted - 2014.07.11 19:02:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Moody, they did go ahead and nerf Min Commando, it used to sprint past 8 m/s with 2 kincats(and, coincidentally, 1/3 of my PG) it used to hit close to 8.2 or something, now its' 7.81, identical to the Basic frame and(wtf) slower than a GalSent stacking 3 kincats.
Did they? I never ran kin cats on it. Just reactives and shield regs. :(
Min sentinel gets out sprinted and out stamina'd by gal sentinels. My poor UP min suits.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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RayRay James
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
226
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Posted - 2014.07.11 19:37:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:So... can I get my Min Commando's speed buffed back up after this? Buffed back to what? Back to Velociraptor speed level at least.
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Summ Dude
Direct Action Resources
399
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:06:00 -
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I do agree that Assault suits are terribly overshadowed right now, and I don't really notice a significant enough difference between the TTK when shooting at either an Assault or a Scout. However, I don't know that giving Assault suits more speed is really the best solution anyway. I had a somewhat long-winded idea on what to do for Assault suits, but that contains lots of things that require new assets, and I know those are a no-go right now.
But anyway, I think I'd rather see Assault suits get more HP than more speed. Of course even better than that would be giving them more module slots, but I'm not sure if that's even a possibility.
Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
Winn Summ and lose Summ.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2177
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Posted - 2014.07.11 20:13:00 -
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This post is full of all kinds of stupid.. and terrible assumptions.
Then got blue tagged.
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trollface dot jpg
The Bacon Corporation
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Posted - 2014.07.11 21:53:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:This post is full of all kinds of stupid.. and terrible assumptions. Then got blue tagged. .......................................
And 20+ likes.
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RIP MAG, you will be missed.
MAG Vet ~ Raven
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
2467
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Posted - 2014.07.11 23:09:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Just keep strafe speed low (lower it for scouts as well), and I'm happy
Good scouts don't rely on speed, they rely on dampening, scanning, and stamina.
Disagree.
Scouts have always been faster suits, and just this afternoon I got a couple knife kills from playing ring around the rosie with noob medium frame. Speed is right there in terms of importance with the rest of them, its just a shame we can't really do more with it due to speed constraints.
This is how a minja feels
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10833
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Posted - 2014.07.11 23:22:00 -
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Assaults need that speed.
Shock Troopers, know that term?
That's one of the Assault's roles.
They're the first suit type to react to an emerging threat, and it's their job to hoof it and create a line of defense while the heavy artillery (Heavies + Logis) is being set up.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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PANDA UZIMAKI
SINISTER DEATH SQUAD
52
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Posted - 2014.07.11 23:42:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:So... can I get my Min Commando's speed buffed back up after this? Buffed back to what?
MAKE. IT. FASTER. its weaker then all the other commandos and that speed doesn't really add up if any of you have really looked at it |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10837
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Posted - 2014.07.12 00:02:00 -
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PANDA UZIMAKI wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:So... can I get my Min Commando's speed buffed back up after this? Buffed back to what? MAKE. IT. FASTER. its weaker then all the other commandos and that speed doesn't really add up if any of you have really looked at it
Uhhh...
You do know the Mincommando is the most popular commando suit, right?
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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trollface dot jpg
The Bacon Corporation
207
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Posted - 2014.07.12 01:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Assaults need that speed.
Shock Troopers, know that term?
That's one of the Assault's roles.
They're the first suit type to react to an emerging threat, and it's their job to hoof it and create a line of defense while the heavy artillery (Heavies + Logis) is being set up.
^^^^^^^
RIP MAG, you will be missed.
MAG Vet ~ Raven
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
662
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Posted - 2014.07.12 06:24:00 -
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Booby Tuesdays wrote:trollface dot jpg wrote:Crimson ShieId wrote:So... can I get my Min Commando's speed buffed back up after this? I would like to see this. I saw no issues with the old speed since it's hitbox was so huge. Never happened. Much like the proposed Logi speed nerf, Rattati listened to reason and removed/postponed the change. This is why he is held in such high regard, because he actually listens to reason.
Huh. I didn't realize o.o Well, scratch that comment then! Go Rattati!
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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IAmDuncanIdaho II
R 0 N 1 N
502
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Posted - 2014.07.12 08:13:00 -
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trollface dot jpg wrote:There are people out there concerned that increasing the speed of the assault suit will cut in on the scout's turf too much. I am here with words that should set you at ease and tame your bewildered senses.
QUIT YO BITCHIN!
The assault suit has 2x your hitbox size, less than half your scan/damping abilities, cannot equip cloaks and tank properly, and has only one equipment slot. Letting them match your speed might bruise your ego, but after the last few month's the assault has had to deal with, you can **** right the hell off.
Thank you for your time.
(Edit: Interesting side note ~ The four letter word for urination is censored....)
I have a question for you - are there any people out there concerned that increasing the speed of the assault suit will cut in on the scout's turf too much that are not scouts? Because you would appear to assume that everyone opposed is a scout. I come to you with delusions of balance and a tweak here and there. Delusions because this is CCP's world.
Personally (of course I'm a scout, check the corp tag) I don't care, although I probably should, and I apologise to my scoutly bros if they indeed are opposed to this idea. I do not represent them in this matter - you must seek their counsel for good discussion and measured thoughtful consideration.
My personal thoughts on faster assaults...
COME AT ME BRO
as fast as your little legs can manage it.
Now you can piss right the hell off :-p
You must learn honor, or you deserve to learn nothing at all.
~ Rivvy Dinari - Swordmaster of Ginaz
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