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RogueTrooper 2000AD
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Posted - 2014.09.24 14:38:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:
What we need to do (and what I'm trying to do here) is to separate medium frames, as a group, from the real enemy, scouts!
Scouts infringing upon the Logi's support role? I've yet to witness this in game, nor has the topic come up with any seriousness in the Barbershop or other scoutly channels. I try to stay informed on what Scouts are up to, and I've heard nothing of the Scout becoming a legitimate -- much less superior -- alternative to Logistics. If this is in fact an issue, I'd like to better understand it. This is the very best "Scout Logi" I could come up with: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/1192/7950^ Is it a solid example of Scout which can out-Logi a Logi? If not, can you provide me with one that is? If so, would you please explain how and why?
Edit: I am a Scout, but I'd like to assure you that I'm not trolling you guys or attempting to detract from your goals. Should my sincerity be questioned, I'm confident that Cross Atu will vouch for me. Scouts displacing Logistics in the role of support would absolutely represent a problem; if that problem exists, I'd like to help you solve it.
Scouts generally run nothing but scouts.
It can be seen in the barber shop that you guys should not be taken seriously for anything to do with balance as its always balance vs scouts, not balance in general.
Now go back back to the neckbeard shop.
Thank you.
'Scouts are balanced'
checks wallhacks, sprints the fastest in the game and shotguns out of cloak
Mad skills bro...
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.24 14:44:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:@ Cross Atu
I'm wondering if its possible for us to know usage rates for Rep Tools on Scout Frames ...
If so, is it trending upward or downward, and is its occurrence commonplace or anomaly?
Shouldn't you be asking in the neckbeard shop?.
Iv personally not seen any scouts running scout logi.
Unless you actually run logi (which I doubt because it doesn't have all that easy mode crap that you guys deny every time its mentioned) then your input is not wanted.
Go back to the kiddy shop and go stroke each others epeen about how leet you all are.
I look forward to the QQ when you guys get balanced.
Just like the tasty ds QQ.
'Scouts are balanced'
checks wallhacks, sprints the fastest in the game and shotguns out of cloak
Mad skills bro...
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.24 15:04:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:
What we need to do (and what I'm trying to do here) is to separate medium frames, as a group, from the real enemy, scouts!
Scouts infringing upon the Logi's support role? I've yet to witness this in game, nor has the topic come up with any seriousness in the Barbershop or other scoutly channels. I try to stay informed on what Scouts are up to, and I've heard nothing of the Scout becoming a legitimate -- much less superior -- alternative to Logistics. If this is in fact an issue, I'd like to better understand it. This is the very best "Scout Logi" I could come up with: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/1192/7950^ Is it a solid example of Scout which can out-Logi a Logi? If not, can you provide me with one that is? If so, would you please explain how and why?
Edit: I am a Scout, but I'd like to assure you that I'm not trolling you guys or attempting to detract from your goals. Should my sincerity be questioned, I'm confident that Cross Atu will vouch for me. Scouts displacing Logistics in the role of support would absolutely represent a problem; if that problem exists, I'd like to help you solve it. Scouts generally run nothing but scouts. It can be seen in the barber shop that you guys should not be taken seriously for anything to do with balance as its always balance vs scouts, not balance in general. Now go back back to the neckbeard shop. Thank you. Speaking of, we just wrapped up a detailed conversation with Cross about Logi EWAR loadouts. EWAR is more-or-less purely math, and where math is concerned there's little room for bias or neckbeardery. Even the simpleminded can see when one number is larger than the next; here, have a look.
Prime example of ignoring the real issues.
Thanks for proving my point.
'Scouts are balanced'
checks wallhacks, sprints the fastest in the game and shotguns out of cloak
Mad skills bro...
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.24 15:07:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:John Demonsbane wrote:
What we need to do (and what I'm trying to do here) is to separate medium frames, as a group, from the real enemy, scouts!
Scouts infringing upon the Logi's support role? I've yet to witness this in game, nor has the topic come up with any seriousness in the Barbershop or other scoutly channels. I try to stay informed on what Scouts are up to, and I've heard nothing of the Scout becoming a legitimate -- much less superior -- alternative to Logistics. If this is in fact an issue, I'd like to better understand it. This is the very best "Scout Logi" I could come up with: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/1192/7950^ Is it a solid example of Scout which can out-Logi a Logi? If not, can you provide me with one that is? If so, would you please explain how and why?
Edit: I am a Scout, but I'd like to assure you that I'm not trolling you guys or attempting to detract from your goals. Should my sincerity be questioned, I'm confident that Cross Atu will vouch for me. Scouts displacing Logistics in the role of support would absolutely represent a problem; if that problem exists, I'd like to help you solve it. Scouts generally run nothing but scouts. It can be seen in the barber shop that you guys should not be taken seriously for anything to do with balance as its always balance vs scouts, not balance in general. Now go back back to the neckbeard shop. Thank you. Speaking of, we just wrapped up a detailed conversation with Cross about Logi EWAR loadouts. EWAR is more-or-less purely math, and where math is concerned there's little room for bias or neckbeardery. Even the simpleminded can see when one number is larger than the next; here, have a look. RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Iv personally not seen any scouts running scout logi. Precisely my point. John expressed concern that Scouts are out-logi'ing the Logi. I haven't seen it, but that doesn't mean that he's wrong. Shouldn't we investigate his claim?
Its impossible for a scout to out logi a logi but it can mimic it no better than a commando.
You said yourself that maths don't lie so why is this question even being asked or possibly debated over?.
'Scouts are balanced'
checks wallhacks, sprints the fastest in the game and shotguns out of cloak
Mad skills bro...
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.24 15:08:00 -
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Now get back to the actual point of this thread.
'Scouts are balanced'
checks wallhacks, sprints the fastest in the game and shotguns out of cloak
Mad skills bro...
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.24 15:24:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:
Its impossible for a scout to out logi a logi ...
Thank you for that tidbit. This was my concern. Correct me if I'm wrong: It is appropriate and necessary to buff the Logi, but not the grounds that they're being out-logi'd by Scouts. They should be buffed on other grounds, not identified in the original post of this thread.
I cannot believe that was even brought up.
Yes a scout can mimic a logi and be speedy with a cloak but its as ridiculous as me stating that my cloaked proto min or Amarr assaults can out scout a scout. I use those specifically to kill the vast majority of 'scouts'.
I'm sorry but the ridiculous capabilities of scouts has gone on long enough and I have yet to see a scout come out and admit how fking stupidly good they are.
I have a proto scout as well and have been scouting since beta. This char is a tongue in cheek alt.
'Scouts are balanced'
checks wallhacks, sprints the fastest in the game and shotguns out of cloak
Mad skills bro...
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RogueTrooper 2000AD
Neckbeard Absolution
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Posted - 2014.09.24 15:32:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:
Its impossible for a scout to out logi a logi ...
Thank you for that tidbit. This was my concern. Correct me if I'm wrong: It is appropriate and necessary to buff the Logi, but not the grounds that they're being out-logi'd by Scouts. They should be buffed on other grounds, not identified in the original post of this thread. I cannot believe that was even brought up. Yes a scout can mimic a logi and be speedy with a cloak but its as ridiculous as me stating that my cloaked proto min or Amarr assaults can out scout a scout. I use those specifically to kill the vast majority of 'scouts'. I'm sorry but the ridiculous capabilities of scouts has gone on long enough and I have yet to see a scout come out and admit how fking stupidly good they are. I have a proto scout as well and have been scouting since beta. This char is a tongue in cheek alt. I've no reason to doubt that you're a distinguished veteran. But I believe we've now wandered off topic. I'm going to go now. Have a nice day.
Indeed.
You too.
'Scouts are balanced'
checks wallhacks, sprints the fastest in the game and shotguns out of cloak
Mad skills bro...
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