DUST Search - [Request] Slightly Nerfing the HMG

Bormir1r wrote:

Concession

Before I go on the propose my solution I need to provide my concessions to this arguement.

The HMG is meant to kill things in CQC
It should be allowed to have the most firepower
It is very close to being balanced

The problem with the HMG currently is that it has the highest DPS of any weapon with little drawback. Sure Heavies move slowly, but they can be made to move just as fast as light assaults, which is a daunting image to see, much less experience. Note also that the HMG was never nerfed during the 1.8 update, which nerfed all the rifles by about 10%. This was modification made it so that the HMG was indirectly buffed, and in addition to that, it's ranged was extended, essentially tipping the power of the HMG slightly towards the unbalanced side.

Thus to correct this slight imbalance, we need to examine some options and come to a consensus about what or how we should go about modifying the heavy.

Possible Avenues

Modifying the HMGs Reticule - A huge proponent for the HMG is that it has a very large reticule, and with so many bullets scattering so quickly, it drops players so quickly they can't even react. We can modify the reticule to mimic the current Blaster tank reticule, which decreases the reticule radius as it fires, making the player rely more on aim than blatant shooting.

Heavy/HMG Turn Speed - Another reason why it's easy for heavies to kill players is because they can turn just as quick as a scout can, yet they move half as fast and tank 5-8 times as much eHP. This logic seems quite confusing, as someone would think it would be difficult to move a large weapon so quickly without experiencing some drawback. Granted this is a futuristic game, but it is unreasonable to have HMGs spinning around without having even the slightest aim to kill a player. If this option is selected, turn speed would be nerfed slightly, slower than the current speed, but not to the point where it makes heavies unusable.

Damage Output - This would be a slight change meaning 5-7%, and it would fall in with the rest of the other weapons.

Range - This would be corrected by damage which was mentioned above, but essentially it would correct one of the two buffs and make the weapon more balanced.

Thank you for your time and I hope CCP can comment on this.


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Fristname Family name Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 77	Posted - 2014.07.11 03:49:00 - [1] - Quote Bormir1r wrote: Concession Before I go on the propose my solution I need to provide my concessions to this arguement. The HMG is meant to kill things in CQC It should be allowed to have the most firepower It is very close to being balanced The problem with the HMG currently is that it has the highest DPS of any weapon with little drawback. Sure Heavies move slowly, but they can be made to move just as fast as light assaults, which is a daunting image to see, much less experience. Note also that the HMG was never nerfed during the 1.8 update, which nerfed all the rifles by about 10%. This was modification made it so that the HMG was indirectly buffed, and in addition to that, it's ranged was extended, essentially tipping the power of the HMG slightly towards the unbalanced side. Thus to correct this slight imbalance, we need to examine some options and come to a consensus about what or how we should go about modifying the heavy. Possible Avenues *Modifying the HMGs Reticule* - A huge proponent for the HMG is that it has a very large reticule, and with so many bullets scattering so quickly, it drops players so quickly they can't even react. We can modify the reticule to mimic the current Blaster tank reticule, which decreases the reticule radius as it fires, making the player rely more on aim than blatant shooting. Heavy/HMG Turn Speed - Another reason why it's easy for heavies to kill players is because they can turn just as quick as a scout can, yet they move half as fast and tank 5-8 times as much eHP. This logic seems quite confusing, as someone would think it would be difficult to move a large weapon so quickly without experiencing some drawback. Granted this is a futuristic game, but it is unreasonable to have HMGs spinning around without having even the slightest aim to kill a player. If this option is selected, turn speed would be nerfed slightly, slower than the current speed, but not to the point where it makes heavies unusable. Damage Output - This would be a slight change meaning 5-7%, and it would fall in with the rest of the other weapons. Range - This would be corrected by damage which was mentioned above, but essentially it would correct one of the two buffs and make the weapon more balanced. Thank you for your time and I hope CCP can comment on this. 1. Are you a heavy 2. Do ++ou use hmg 3. Dont nerf the heavys gun or they will result to rail rifles Ok now hmg is perfect I rekon how it is ( ecept for when my sentinak gk0 with proto everyhing gets killed by miltiaa heavy ) Australian mercy worky.
Fristname Family name Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 77	Posted - 2014.07.11 03:57:00 - [2] - Quote With dispertion maybe it could solve problem with a little less dispertion to assault and burst ( and like a 1 damage buff or less spray for the assualt as its ment to be a longer distance wepon but how many you see every day none 0 assault hmgs because theres no noticeable change maybe if the bullets are straight line but still are all spread around the radius of the cirlcle and centere and the gun slowly gains rof or acceracy it might work ) opps sorry should just make my own thread. But normal hmg is fine we use to have a 1meter optimal range and straight line fire let us have fun. Australian mercy worky.
Fristname Family name Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 77	Posted - 2014.07.13 14:20:00 - [3] - Quote As Moody said " play/counter play " you have to adapt you retards. You cant run into a heavy from infront wtf you think will happen? His gun is a cqc gun and you ran right into it learn how to change your fits and adapt. Your all honestly whining about nothing. If ccp nerfs hmg ill run a rail rifle heavy that will make yall ******* happy. Wait no then youll want rr nerfed well ill use ar wait then that will be nerfed cause you will cry and whine like little bitchs, how bout you learn how to adapt, and you might win, the guns ARENT op, YOU just SUCK. Australian mercy worky.