The speed changes are to differentiate better between Assault and Logis. The slowest Logis would still of course move faster than the fastest heavy, something like +0.05 on the Assault or -0.05 on the Logi. So if that's the biggest worry, we have no problem in only buffing the Assault speed.

How about you just give assaults a rate of fire bonus instead of the silly reload/dispersion etc? Like +5% rate of fire for each lvl that you got on a assault suit? I got that idea mainly from assault dropships cause they get aswell a rate of fire bonus. This wouldnt be a too big buff and would make assault viable over night. For example:

-caldari assault:
+5% rate of fire per lvl for railgun weapons (rail rifles, snipers and bolt pistols)

-gallente assault:
+5% rate of fire per lvl for blaster weapons (shotguns,AR, ion pistol.

-minmatarr assault:
+5% rate of fire per lvl for projectile weapons (combat rifle and SMG's)

-ammarr assault:
+5 rate of fire per lvl for laser weapons (scrambler, laser rifle etc.)

And before you amarr assaults start to whine its head build up per second and not per bullet. Prime example for this are small rails on the incubus. The higher your lvl the more shots you can get off before overheating. This would aswell help the laser rifle out which is lackluster at the moment.

A small idea I had.

How about increasing light weapon fitting requirements by 35%, and giving Assaults/Commandos a corresponding fitting reduction?

Sidearms become a low CPU/PG option for non slayer suits, Heavies will be less likely to use those with the CPU/PG reduction and Heavy weapon fitting bonuses.



This makes Sidearm vs Light weapon an actual choice, rather than some fun fitting you run once in a while.
Non slayer suits that want the same slaying power would have to do sacrifices, just like non scouts trying to fit cloaks.

The last how many builds? Have proven that this approach is necessary.
-What approach? I know of only two fitting restrictions on infantry: Heavy weapons and the cloak. In both cases we are dealing with specialized and powerful items and the restictions/requirements make perfect sense in terms of both gameplay and immersion. Light weapons are bread and butter on the battlefield.

Besies, this creates MORE choices.
- Actually, it creates one trivial choice based on fitting costs. This adds to player agency and gameplay how?

There is no choice between a sidearm and a light weapon, all suits have buttloads of CPU/PG and light weapons are easy to fit.
- I run Minmatar, so i have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe what you're really saying is that the other races have too much CPU/PG?

Now if you want a powerful light weapon (proto), you have to make sacrifices in other areas.
- See above. Also, it sounds to me you're speaking from the point of view of a vet with fully maxxed fitting skills.

There is no choice if you can do everything to the max at the same time.
-Agree. But if that's the case, what makes more sense: to look at the fitting capacity of the suits themselves, or to restrict player agency to impose class distinctions that should be supported in interesting ways by the suit's inherent bonuses? I choose the latter.

I'm confused as to why this patch is primarily aimed at changing Assault suits, yet nobody seems to be talking about anything other than Logistics.

Could we please get back to discussing Assault suits so that the suit with very little purpose (and has always had little purpose) can FINALLY see some substantial uses?

Logistics are cool and all, but couldn't we make them a focus of a later patch and focus instead on the initial points?

Yes but it matters. I was in my adv cal assault yesterday. I had std scrambler, and std mag sec. I was fighting Grease Spillet on the back steps of the Gal research facility that leads down to the CRU. I had him down to half armor in his proto Gal Assault and he had my shields depleted.

I switched to sidearm and unloaded a clip from my magsec and then began backing up the steps, second tier, as I continued to back up the third tier he came flying around the second tier looking right up at me, but thanks to my reload bonus as soon as his head popped around those steps I put him down, with some strafing and luck I survived. But I marked it in my head right then, I said wow my bonus just saved my a$$.

Not the first time either! I cant tell you how many times that Mini assault suit bonus with my rs 90 has kept me alive from multiple scouts, or given me enough ammo in a clip to finish a hvy in his range.

Not sure we have the same definition of tieracide. Tieracide, to me, would be getting rid of Standard/Advanced on all the suits and then balancing around Prototype - something I've been wanting done since I first played the game back in 2012 and something that seems to be happening in Legion.

Personally, I'd rather cross-racial bonuses be implemented so that racial logistics aren't getting -just- the bonus to their own equipment.