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Unum Intrepidus
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.07 17:27:00 -
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I for one dont, ive seen a lot of corps with K/D requierments and in a game like this, you cant really judge someone on their K/D. Redline snipers, tanks and cloak scout shotgunners are gonna have some really really good K/Ds (with the first one because they were dieing a lot as it is and hiding behind a line of death but meh)
so i feel you cant judge a player by their K/D. Play with them before rejecting them. dont judge on stats that can be "forged" easily
Quit CoD to play Dust, never regretted it, never looking back.
Play safe, Play smart. Use the brain you were given.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3474
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Posted - 2014.07.07 17:31:00 -
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o7
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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lee corwood
Knights Of Ender
RISE of LEGION
876
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Posted - 2014.07.07 17:36:00 -
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have a like just for your sig
Minmatar Logisis | Heavy lover. Ping for video services.
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PO0KY
Virtual Syndicate
601
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Posted - 2014.07.07 17:36:00 -
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Deep down, we all care. |
CRNWLLC
Gangsta Gank
344
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Posted - 2014.07.07 17:37:00 -
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I'd say KDR is even less of a general measure of actual "slayerness" in Dust than in other shooters because of all the whack gameplay mechanics, but it is useful for gauging one's own improvement. I had a .22 lifetime KDR at the beginning of February and it's at 1.2 right now. Went from sniping -> scouting -> slaying, so it's been useful for tracking my progress. That's why I look at my "Weekly" and "Monthly" numbers on the leaderboards--not because I care how I stack up against others right then, but because I'm interested how I compare to myself of a week/month ago. And honestly, I'd kick my old self's @ss fa sho.  |
Cyzad4
Blackfish Corp.
357
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Posted - 2014.07.07 17:39:00 -
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It's all about the ISK for me, that and putting up decent WP's
Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2133
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Posted - 2014.07.07 17:39:00 -
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Unum Intrepidus wrote:I for one dont, ive seen a lot of corps with K/D requierments and in a game like this, you cant really judge someone on their K/D. Redline snipers, tanks and cloak scout shotgunners are gonna have some really really good K/Ds (with the first one because they were dieing a lot as it is and hiding behind a line of death but meh)
so i feel you cant judge a player by their K/D. Play with them before rejecting them. dont judge on stats that can be "forged" easily
Yah odly...the renown players with High K/d... don;t really snipe in the redline or built their K/D in close quarters shotgun fights.
Just FYI.. lol |
Heimdallr69
Nyain San
2738
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Posted - 2014.07.07 17:41:00 -
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K/D doesn't matter in competition. I run assault so feel free to check my K/D anytime.
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sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
288
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Posted - 2014.07.07 17:42:00 -
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0.57
But when it comes to WPs, ISK and finishing in the top 5, I'm your merc.
Desperate attempt to get BPOs
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
5218
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Posted - 2014.07.07 17:43:00 -
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I run basic commando....does that answer your question?
I can use all 4 proto commandos ^.^
CCP, at least fix my ck.0 commandos colour scheme...he looks like the Michelin man
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Funkmaster Whale
Whale Farm
2366
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Posted - 2014.07.07 17:44:00 -
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There's usually a direct correlation between K/D and ISK efficiency, unless of course you use nothing but free suits...
So having a good K/D is helpful, but using it as a bragging right is pretty stupid. Just ignore those people.
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Ryme Intrinseca
The Rainbow Effect
1438
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:12:00 -
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As a recruiter I use KDR as a filter. If your KDR is low then you need a good excuse (like being a dedicated minlogi or outstanding AVer). Maybe there are slayers or tankers with very low KDRs that do well in PC but I don't know them.
Anyway, that is only the filter stage. Anyone who gets past the filter has to show us that they didn't get their stats by padding. If we don't know them already this means running some pubs with us and keeping up in terms of kills/WP. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5586
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:12:00 -
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o7
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Harpyja
Legio DXIV
2018
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:13:00 -
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If my deaths didn't cost ISK I wouldn't care. But unfortunately my Gunnlogi costs more than half a million and my alt runs 50k suits and I can't die more than three times else I break even or go in the red.
So yes I care about my KD. To me, KD=ISK efficiency. Nor do I want to run standard suits that cost 10-20k each because they die too easily and it's not fun dying too much without being able to do anything.
"By His light, and His will"- The Scriptures, 12:32
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"Scouts should fart repeatedly while cloaked"- TechMechMeds
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5586
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:14:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:As a recruiter I use KDR as a filter. If your KDR is low then you need a good excuse (like being a dedicated minlogi or outstanding AVer). Maybe there are slayers or tankers with very low KDRs that do well in PC but I don't know them.
Anyway, that is only the filter stage. Anyone who gets past the filter has to show us that they didn't get their stats by padding. If we don't know them already this means running some pubs with us and keeping up in terms of kills/WP.
As a recruiter, you should know "slayer" isn't a role, and is used by dumbasses who just run around shooting everything that moves with no real aim.
People who call themselves "slayers" are the people you don't want in your corp
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
RISE of LEGION
1252
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:18:00 -
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I would say I'm at least mindful of my KDR however I feel it is a meaningless stat for most people. Think about it, when running cheap gear - or doing a different role like you previously talked about in the OP..... what good is a KDR score?
If you are a proto stomper always going against easy militia noobs then the score will not be an accurate reflection of your ability. Similarly, if you are trying to bank up isk and therefore using cheap / blueprint suits, of course you are going to die much more VS protos / proto squads and teams.
At best the KDR score is a rough guide, at best. Generally however it is a quite meaningless number.
MY LIFE FOR AIUR! Protoss
You gonna' give me orders? Terran
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Mike De Luca
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
157
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:19:00 -
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Stats make no difference in this game with the amount of farming of noobs n wp going on
what i think of when charging fg
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Ahkhomi Cypher
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
92
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:22:00 -
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I dont care about my K/D. Dont believe me? Just look at my alltime K/D. It's garbage. Why? Its like that because i was the scrub ass blueberry that looked forward to facing the known "big names" in pubs. Did that in basic and advance gear and got wrecked constantly.
That and 1.7 tanks. **** 1.7 tanks.
Opus | TBD Ringleader | Yep Squad Spokesman
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1649
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:25:00 -
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I care more about isk efficiency than my kd. In the early days I would run cheap suits or free suits and act as bait for my squad or make the risky run to flank. So long as I make more than I loose I'm happy. |
Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
369
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:26:00 -
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I've always found k/d to be a good measure of one's own progress but never a measure of skill.... I mean look at us logis.
this being said having anything under 1.00 kdr is not acceptable because it means you probably have bad gun game and battle awareness... but again this is my opinion... and probably not a very good one, but mine non the less.
so for the most part, no I don't care about k/d |
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Spectre-M
The Generals
Anime Empire.
575
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:31:00 -
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Depends. If I'm running logi not so much. If I'm running assault then yes.
Minnmitar in Amarr armor.
A Wolf in Sheeps clothing.
May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
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Ryme Intrinseca
The Rainbow Effect
1438
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Posted - 2014.07.07 18:38:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:As a recruiter I use KDR as a filter. If your KDR is low then you need a good excuse (like being a dedicated minlogi or outstanding AVer). Maybe there are slayers or tankers with very low KDRs that do well in PC but I don't know them.
Anyway, that is only the filter stage. Anyone who gets past the filter has to show us that they didn't get their stats by padding. If we don't know them already this means running some pubs with us and keeping up in terms of kills/WP. As a recruiter, you should know "slayer" isn't a role, and is used by dumbasses who just run around shooting everything that moves with no real aim. People who call themselves "slayers" are the people you don't want in your corp
Slayer=clears objectives by killing the enemy. This is quite an important role in PC y'know... |
Yokal Bob
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dark Taboo
527
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Posted - 2014.07.07 19:00:00 -
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As long as my kdr is positive i dont give a flux. at the end of the day i am a team player running different roles depending on the situation at the time, which means my kdr will fluctuate. i just wish more people would defend objectives in pubs... that way i might live longer instead of being the only one there.
If its not anime, its not real
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xSivartx
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
91
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Posted - 2014.07.07 19:59:00 -
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I look at it this way, if your K/D is 0.06 and you are a logi, you are either a sub-par logi incapable to keeping your team alive or need to find another team to help. |
Ace Mercenary
Storm Wind Strikeforce
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:01:00 -
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Unum Intrepidus wrote:I for one dont, ive seen a lot of corps with K/D requierments and in a game like this, you cant really judge someone on their K/D. Redline snipers, tanks and cloak scout shotgunners are gonna have some really really good K/Ds (with the first one because they were dieing a lot as it is and hiding behind a line of death but meh)
so i feel you cant judge a player by their K/D. Play with them before rejecting them. dont judge on stats that can be "forged" easily
o/ |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Gentlemen's.Club
4500
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:06:00 -
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I got a 3.1 Kdr but I have not cared for a long time.
Earn 500Mil ISK
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
467
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:36:00 -
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I solo ......as a commando/sent ....
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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Tectonic Fusion
1859
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:38:00 -
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Shotgun scouts have a good K/D? I don't even...
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sebastian the huds
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
155
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:42:00 -
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K/d doesn't matter if you have few kills and few deaths, like under 20k of either. After 20k kills or deaths it becomes difficult to move it so then is when it matters, but it shouldn't keep you out of a corp.
Dam dadi do
dam dam di do di da
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hold that
Krusual Covert Operators
Minmatar Republic
134
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Posted - 2014.07.07 20:45:00 -
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dedicated logi here, wish i had at least 1.00 just to look cool, i think i'm at .90 or something right now. when 200 wp = 1000 sp due to events like these, you kind of just don't give a damn and run bpo/milita for the isk gain. i also think i got an extremely high wp total for a solo player : P
in conclusion: as logi, no not really
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Everything Dies
BIKINI BOTTOM BRIGADE
802
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Posted - 2014.07.07 21:01:00 -
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My KDR is high only due to the fact that I hate, HATE to lose money; hence, I typically play it safe and try to make the enemy come to me.
Mike Patton is the greatest singer in music. Proof:
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5591
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Posted - 2014.07.07 21:11:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ryme Intrinseca wrote:As a recruiter I use KDR as a filter. If your KDR is low then you need a good excuse (like being a dedicated minlogi or outstanding AVer). Maybe there are slayers or tankers with very low KDRs that do well in PC but I don't know them.
Anyway, that is only the filter stage. Anyone who gets past the filter has to show us that they didn't get their stats by padding. If we don't know them already this means running some pubs with us and keeping up in terms of kills/WP. As a recruiter, you should know "slayer" isn't a role, and is used by dumbasses who just run around shooting everything that moves with no real aim. People who call themselves "slayers" are the people you don't want in your corp Slayer=clears objectives by killing the enemy. This is quite an important role in PC y'know...
That would be shock, or offensive area-denial.
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Dark Taboo
6229
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Posted - 2014.07.07 22:21:00 -
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Dont give a DAMN!
I don't even know how my KDR got to where it is now, nor do I care.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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axINVICTUSxa
DETHDEALERS
RISE of LEGION
171
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Posted - 2014.07.07 22:25:00 -
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Unum Intrepidus wrote:I for one dont, ive seen a lot of corps with K/D requierments and in a game like this, you cant really judge someone on their K/D. Redline snipers, tanks and cloak scout shotgunners are gonna have some really really good K/Ds (with the first one because they were dieing a lot as it is and hiding behind a line of death but meh)
so i feel you cant judge a player by their K/D. Play with them before rejecting them. dont judge on stats that can be "forged" easily
As a Support Logi and a Fire Support Commando, do I really care about K/D? No. Somehow, miracolously, my K/D is X>1 for some reason, despite working Logi part time...
Wherever the Wind (Aero) might take me, may it ever be True, for the way of the Commando is noble and right.
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Louis Domi
Pradox One
Proficiency V.
433
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Posted - 2014.07.07 22:27:00 -
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My K/D always been decent, I barely have to worry about it so I honestly Idc, I should think anything above 1.00 is adequate.
Although I will admit during 1.3 I did care about it quite a bit, back then I was at 1.2 K/D or something close, its been rising since then and its at 2.08 now. |
Crazy Cat Lady
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
158
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Posted - 2014.07.07 22:30:00 -
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o/
ME!! ME! pick me!!!
*raises both hands...
I had once hoped that one day it would be as low as 0.1
Being a logi is the best... no stupid stat to worry about, leave matches for or for other people to be all judgey about
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Jotun Izalaru
Goonfeet
147
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Posted - 2014.07.07 22:38:00 -
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High k/dr isn't wildly difficult to get if you hit the ground running. Squad up, run your best gear, you'll probably do really well.
Kind of hard to climb your k/dr up from the pit if you started with no friends, no isk, and no guidance, though, even if you're consistently good today.
I accept a low k/dr every single time I decide to strap on a no armor melee-only fit. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I wouldn't want it any other way - I'm trying to have fun, after all.
Were I in charge of recruiting for such a firm based on stats, I'd just put them in application hell and keep track of their weekly/monthly, since that's available to us now. If for whatever reason I wanted to play with tryhards I'd actually run good fits for however long and they'd know all they need to. |
Twelve Guage
Death Firm.
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
309
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Posted - 2014.07.07 22:51:00 -
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I don't care but if I do super awesome in a game i'm always going to be like f**k yeah.
Death Firm recruiter and sandwiches maker.
You're been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$.
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Leanna Boghin
RECTUM Damn near killed em
196
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Posted - 2014.07.07 23:13:00 -
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The only time i care about K/D is when i effectively make someone rage quit because i ruined theirs 
I let my sniper rifle bullet to your face do all the talking :P
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3038
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Posted - 2014.07.07 23:33:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:Unum Intrepidus wrote:I for one dont, ive seen a lot of corps with K/D requierments and in a game like this, you cant really judge someone on their K/D. Redline snipers, tanks and cloak scout shotgunners are gonna have some really really good K/Ds (with the first one because they were dieing a lot as it is and hiding behind a line of death but meh)
so i feel you cant judge a player by their K/D. Play with them before rejecting them. dont judge on stats that can be "forged" easily Yah odly...the renown players with High K/d... don;t really snipe in the redline or built their K/D in close quarters shotgun fights. Just FYI.. lol
No your right the renowned players like to jump from one FOTM to another.
That hurts their reputation more than redline sniping, at least to me anyway.
I've lost count the amount of times I've seen 'Renowned Players' who run round it prototype brick tanked suits with a posse of logi's and support, their success is not built by their own work but by the work of others and it's, kinda sad.
They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank!
Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
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