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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
876
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Posted - 2014.07.04 22:08:00 -
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The main problem with scouts is the ability to consecutively attack over and over.
My response?
Screw scouts! Assaults should do that!
And before you say "but scouts need their regen".
No they don't they need stealth to assassinate,not regeneration to go face-to-face.
If you're a scout and you're charging at an enemies front,you're doing it wrong.
"Scout have less eHP so they should regenerate faster".
Lolno,if less eHP means faster regeneration then why isn't logistics #2 in it,seeing as logistics has only about 30 more eHP than their scout counterpart?
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15168
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Posted - 2014.07.04 22:10:00 -
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I agree.
Giving assaults high regen favours constant aggression with them, which fits their role perfectly.
Giving scouts high regen focuses them more towards straight combat.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Polka will never die.
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Tectonic Fusion
1850
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Posted - 2014.07.04 22:13:00 -
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Low health, high regen = scouts
High health, low regen = heavys
understand?
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
5996
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Posted - 2014.07.04 22:14:00 -
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My min sentinel has a better recharge and deplete delay than the min assault.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Meisterjager Jagermeister
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
269
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Posted - 2014.07.04 22:16:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Low health, high regen = scouts
High health, low regen = heavys
understand? Yes.
No...wait.
Could you run that by me again?
AKA - StarVenger
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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
878
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Posted - 2014.07.04 22:25:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Low health, high regen = scouts
High health, low regen = heavys
understand?
Low health,low regen = Logis
You're example is invalidated.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
6347
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Posted - 2014.07.04 22:27:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Low health, high regen = scouts
High health, low regen = heavys
understand? Low health,low regen = Logis You're example is invalidated.
High Health, High Regen = Scouts
his example is invalidated in more places than one.
see you space cowboy...
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
6347
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Posted - 2014.07.04 22:29:00 -
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Seriously though I've been saying this for a while.
Especially between the Gal Scout and Gal mediums.
that 3/hps should be OURS.
see you space cowboy...
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4002
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Posted - 2014.07.04 22:31:00 -
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mmm no
Mediums need to have medium everything. Medium health medium speed medium profile etc. And they need most CPU/PG and slots. As of now they need more starting health nothing much though. They do really badly need an extra top slot i.e. extra low on the Galsault. Mediums having high regen? That isn't justified by the frame size.
Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
878
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Posted - 2014.07.04 22:43:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:mmm no
Mediums need to have medium everything. Medium health medium speed medium profile etc. And they need most CPU/PG and slots. As of now they need more starting health nothing much though. They do really badly need an extra top slot i.e. extra low on the Galsault. Mediums having high regen? That isn't justified by the frame size.
-1 for additional slots
Assaults aren't logistics and shouldn't try to be.
That and logistics base stats are much lower and it wouldn't be right to screw over logistics completely like that.
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
143
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Posted - 2014.07.04 23:52:00 -
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Give them +1 grenade, the equivalent ammo increase of going from MLT to STD and a faster weapon switch.
Allow assaults to pour on more firepower but don't increase eHP. Maybe only allow assaults to have assault version rifles.
Not One Lifetime
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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
884
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Posted - 2014.07.05 00:07:00 -
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Venerable Phage wrote:Give them +1 grenade, the equivalent ammo increase of going from MLT to STD and a faster weapon switch.
Allow assaults to pour on more firepower but don't increase eHP. Maybe only allow assaults to have assault version rifles.
Well,except for the fact the main Gal rifle is assault. I agree 100%
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BLOOD Ruler
The Lionheart Coalition
438
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Posted - 2014.07.05 00:09:00 -
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I am a scout and I'm ok with this.
Feel the pain of my knives and the piercing pain your skull has felt to my pistol.I am the Assassin.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10648
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Posted - 2014.07.05 00:11:00 -
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Regeneration is really a trait of main combat units.
If you use stealth and scanning, your chances of getting damaged are far, far slimmer than those of an assault.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Spectre-M
The Generals
573
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Posted - 2014.07.05 00:27:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Low health, high regen = scouts
High health, low regen = heavys
understand?
I noticed you completely left out the assault in that equasion.
Minnmitar in Amarr armor.
A Wolf in Sheeps clothing.
May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
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TEBOW BAGGINS
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1099
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Posted - 2014.07.05 00:34:00 -
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nothing good can be done for assaults until legion. they should have some sort of active module like a vehicle does but exclusive to assualts. some ideas picthed were jumpjets, active hardeners or active speed modules..
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
174
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Posted - 2014.07.05 00:35:00 -
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Scouts are for infiltration.
Light, fast and stealthy.
You jump in, kill a bad guy & retreat and repeat.
Scouts gets hurt (which is almost all thier hp), they need fast regen to keep going.
Regen rate is dedicated by role/suit not HP pool.
Assault need good role bonus. Which is hard to be done because what universal bonus should be good? Thats not that easy.
Stop trying to make from them best slayers etc. Thats not the deal.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5564
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Posted - 2014.07.05 00:38:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:Low health, high regen = scouts
High health, low regen = heavys
understand?
I primarily run scouts, and I find the high regen that scouts have completely pointless.
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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
889
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Posted - 2014.07.05 00:43:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Scouts are for infiltration.
Light, fast and stealthy.
You jump in, kill a bad guy & retreat and repeat.
Scouts gets hurt (which is almost all thier hp), they need fast regen to keep going.
Regen rate is dedicated by role/suit not HP pool.
Assault need good role bonus. Which is hard to be done because what universal bonus should be good? Thats not that easy.
Stop trying to make from them best slayers etc. Thats not the deal.
So the suit meant to be the primary slayer shouldn't be the best at it?
The recon unit called "scout" should?
I...i..just....
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TEBOW BAGGINS
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1099
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Posted - 2014.07.05 00:43:00 -
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take the ancient concept of commander suit and apply it to assault, assaults would buff each other by proximity but a stacking penalty does apply so after so many assaults in proximity the bonus is nil
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
177
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Posted - 2014.07.09 17:11:00 -
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Meee One wrote:Mejt0 wrote:Scouts are for infiltration.
Light, fast and stealthy.
You jump in, kill a bad guy & retreat and repeat.
Scouts gets hurt (which is almost all thier hp), they need fast regen to keep going.
Regen rate is dedicated by role/suit not HP pool.
Assault need good role bonus. Which is hard to be done because what universal bonus should be good? Thats not that easy.
Stop trying to make from them best slayers etc. Thats not the deal.
So the suit meant to be the primary slayer shouldn't be the best at it? The recon unit called "scout" should? I...i..just....
So where do i write scouts are best slayers? Nowhere.
Still, id much prefer bonuses that rewards if you use them,not just easy passives. And we dont have such a thing.
Eg : Higher multiplier for headshots, different dmg % at different suit parts (torso,legs etc)
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
Cornballs Get Stonewalled
854
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Posted - 2014.07.09 17:32:00 -
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Meee One wrote:
Low health,low regen = Logis
You're example is invalidated.
That's another thing that should change since they are the biggest and weakest targets on the battle field .
You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
468
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Posted - 2014.07.09 17:36:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:I agree.
Giving assaults high regen favours constant aggression with them, which fits their role perfectly.
Giving scouts high regen focuses them more towards straight combat.
I agree, however we need to be specific on what regen means here. Regen for Assaults means, faster regen shield/armor, where scouts should be regen on stamina.
"One does not simply" run like a Raptor. Only mk.0 Scouts do that.
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CRNWLLC
Gangsta Gank
355
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Posted - 2014.07.09 19:32:00 -
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