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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.07.04 17:07:00 -
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Top 5 Problem
1) HP Tanked Scouts
2) HMG Heavies
3) Bad Assaults
4) Movement Mechanics
5) Lag
Possible Solutions
1) Redirect Gal/Cal Scout racial bonuses from Base Frame to EWAR modules.
2) Add HMG spool-up time; reduce Heavy explosive resistances; nerf repair guns.
3) Rework Min/Cal/Gal Assault racial bonuses to improve slaying and/or staying power.
4) Set strafe and backpedal speed to 80% of walk speed; reduce jump and strafe acceleration (breaks HD).
5) Get more hamsters.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Ace Mercenary
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.07.04 17:13:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Top 5 Problem
1) HP Tanked Scouts
2) HMG Heavies
3) Bad Assaults
4) Movement Mechanics
5) Lag
Possible Solutions
1) Redirect Gal/Cal Scout racial bonuses from Base Frame to EWAR modules.
2) Add HMG spool-up time; reduce Heavy explosive resistances; nerf repair guns.
3) Rework Min/Cal/Gal Assault racial bonuses to improve slaying and/or staying power.
4) Set strafe and backpedal speed to 80% of walk speed; reduce jump and strafe acceleration (breaks HD).
5) Get more hamsters.
Repair tools suck if you don't get proto
Give Scouts a penalty
HMG give a bigger penalty
Assault are broken and also the people they're dumbasses
Don't do this then you'll break speed tanking its already damn slow you just suck
Lag? Its you not the system I never got lag at all |
Foo Fighting
THE HANDS OF DEATH
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Posted - 2014.07.04 17:19:00 -
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problem number 1 is dumb spawn mechanics |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact
Gentlemen's.Club
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Posted - 2014.07.04 17:28:00 -
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again?
Earn 500Mil ISK
I'll ring for free(Multiple roles, 52Mil SP)
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2377
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Posted - 2014.07.04 17:50:00 -
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Ace Mercenary wrote:
Lag? Its you not the system I never got lag at all
99% chance you're wrong, cupcake.
Also, tell your mom I said hi.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2377
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Posted - 2014.07.04 17:57:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:again?
-+No te acuerdas de los muchos muchos tankos?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5562
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Posted - 2014.07.04 18:01:00 -
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Ace Mercenary wrote:
Don't do this then you'll break speed tanking its already damn slow you just suck
Speed tanking isn't even a real ******* thing, unless you're talking about outmaneuvering a turret.
In reality, people move forward far faster than they can backpedal or move sideways.
Don't try using the bullshit "supersoldier" argument, because everything would still be relative to that individual.
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Spademan
the unholy legion of darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.07.04 18:04:00 -
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Ace Mercenary wrote:
Don't do this then you'll break speed tanking its already damn slow you just suck
Don't be dense lad, strafing at these speeds is stupid. I'd argue that 80% is too much, 70% would be fairer if you ask me.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Varoth Drac
the unholy legion of darkstar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.07.04 18:09:00 -
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Ok but don't nerf repair tools and ffs don't give assaults damage bonuses. I just hate that idea. Give them an extra weapon bonus if you like but not damage. (I know you didn't specify what bonus, just saying before people start spouting off about it). |
Ace Mercenary
Immortal Guides
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Posted - 2014.07.04 19:33:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ace Mercenary wrote:
Don't do this then you'll break speed tanking its already damn slow you just suck
Speed tanking isn't even a real ******* thing, unless you're talking about outmaneuvering a turret. In reality, people move forward far faster than they can backpedal or move sideways. Don't try using the bullshit "supersoldier" argument, because everything would still be relative to that individual.
Lol you're on of those QQs that I killed the other day with nova knives no cloak |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.07.04 19:48:00 -
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Ace Mercenary wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ace Mercenary wrote:
Don't do this then you'll break speed tanking its already damn slow you just suck
Speed tanking isn't even a real ******* thing, unless you're talking about outmaneuvering a turret. In reality, people move forward far faster than they can backpedal or move sideways. Don't try using the bullshit "supersoldier" argument, because everything would still be relative to that individual. Lol you're on of those QQs that I killed the other day with nova knives no cloak
Speed tanking hasn't been a "thing" since Chrome.
Mechanics which break HD were bad then and they're bad now.
You're being an arse and you've no idea what you're talking about.
How'd you get into Fox Gaden's corp?
Were SVER and PRO full?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:01:00 -
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Ace Mercenary wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ace Mercenary wrote:
Don't do this then you'll break speed tanking its already damn slow you just suck
Speed tanking isn't even a real ******* thing, unless you're talking about outmaneuvering a turret. In reality, people move forward far faster than they can backpedal or move sideways. Don't try using the bullshit "supersoldier" argument, because everything would still be relative to that individual. Lol you're on of those QQs that I killed the other day with nova knives no cloak
*Sniff sniff*
You smell like Troll...
This is how a minja feels
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:09:00 -
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Ace Mercenary wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Ace Mercenary wrote:
Don't do this then you'll break speed tanking its already damn slow you just suck
Speed tanking isn't even a real ******* thing, unless you're talking about outmaneuvering a turret. In reality, people move forward far faster than they can backpedal or move sideways. Don't try using the bullshit "supersoldier" argument, because everything would still be relative to that individual. Lol you're on of those QQs that I killed the other day with nova knives no cloak
I'm fairly certain I've only been killed by knives once, and that was a KNIFE FIGHT back in the Shi-Nobi event.
And the whole "no cloak" thing? I've been doing that since Uprising 1.0 when knives were made useful. If you think it's an achievement, you're terrible.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:21:00 -
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*facepalm*
Your speed only maks a difference if it's below. 1.5MB/s greater than that and it's blowing hot air out your behind.
Instead check your pingtest (pingtest.net) the lower your jitter the better.
Then there's your quality, you can have 3TB/s and still have lag if you connection quality isn't good enough.
However I have 2.5MB/s but a flawless connection I can play lag free 97% of the time.
My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me!
Monkey Mac - Swinging from the Rooftops Forum Warrior Lvl2
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2380
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:32:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:
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Instead check your pingtest (pingtest.net) the lower your jitter the better.
Good point.
Ping Test 1
Ping Test 2
I don't have any issues with lag unless I play Ambush.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
2064
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:37:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
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Instead check your pingtest (pingtest.net) the lower your jitter the better.
Good point. Ping Test 1Ping Test 2I don't have any issues with lag unless I play Ambush.
And here I am with my peasant 14mb/s download, .5mb upload, 53 ping and 6 jitter 
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
3012
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:50:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:
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Instead check your pingtest (pingtest.net) the lower your jitter the better.
Good point. Ping Test 1Ping Test 2I don't have any issues with lag unless I play Ambush.
What the hell are you on leased line or something?
Then the only thing I can suggest is the enemy team is purosefully lagging, or setting up a lag bomb.
Neither of these reasons would suprise with this player base
My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me!
Monkey Mac - Swinging from the Rooftops Forum Warrior Lvl2
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J4yne C0bb
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
414
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Posted - 2014.07.04 21:00:00 -
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Foo Fighting wrote:problem number 1 is dumb spawn mechanics
Yeah, I care about this one before any of the others.
Also, I would like to see Ambush as a Standard/Militia gear only game mode. Would be good for the NPE.
Dust 514... another leaf on the wind.
PSN ID: B16D4mnHer0
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2381
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Posted - 2014.07.04 21:22:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:
What the hell are you on leased line or something?
Something like that! And I'm getting short-changed (paying for 1GB/sec up/down).
PS: Time to update that signature, sir. Congrats on Level 3 :-)
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Vicious Minotaur
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Posted - 2014.07.04 21:41:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:
2) Add HMG spool-up time; invert Heavy explosive resistances; nerf repair guns.
Please no.
Rebalancing HMGs ( tweaking optimal range/effective/heat buildup) AND introducing more HMG variants is the better, non-Band-Aid solution.
Resistances on the heavy were a bad idea from the get-go. They are a passive bonus that affects the heavy regardless of your fit. RR heavy? Given nice resistances. Forge Gun, complex damage modded heavy? Given nice resistances. Speed tanked Nova knife heavy? Given nice bonuses. Where as, say, my basic minmatar scout to get some of its bonuses, and thus making optimal use of my invested SP, I have to equip nova knifes. To make use of my all bonuses on my Minmatar Assault, I have to use specific weapons. On my Minmatar Logistics, to make use of all my bonuses I have to use equipment, and specifically the repair tool. Why are Sentinels the only class in the game that all get passive bonuses that affect the suit regardless of your fitting? I could go on with my problems with resistances, but I shan't.
Repair guns already suck at low levels, unless you have lots of SP invested into Minmatar Logistics. You want repair tools to be hit with another nerf? perhaps a nerf at proto levels, but advanced and basic repair tools have been hurt enough, in my opinion.
Anyway, if the spool-up time is anything like the rail rifle, it would be inconsequential and easily circumvented. Sentinel resistances are bonuses inconsistent with every other class in the game. I want meaningful change for the better. Not some Band-Aids that fail to fix the problems or improve the game as a whole.
Edit: the other stuff in your post I take no issue with.
I am a minotaur.
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Meee One
Algintal Core
Gallente Federation
883
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Posted - 2014.07.04 21:50:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Top 5 Fixable Problemos1) HP Tanked Scouts 2) HMG Heavies 3) Bad Assaults 4) Movement Mechanics 5) * Lag Possible Solutions1) Redirect Gal/Cal Scout racial bonuses from base frame to EWAR modules. 2) Add HMG spool-up time; invert Heavy explosive resistances; reduce reptool WP.3) Rework Min/Cal/Gal Assault racial bonuses to improve slaying and/or staying power. 4) Set strafe/backpedal speed to 80% of walk speed; reduce jump/strafe acceleration (these break HD). 5) Add more hamsters. * Speed Test Results, Ping Test Results
Risk Vs reward,by surrendering offence and becoming defenseless i've earned my WP.
Also,you're a damned idiot reducing rep tool WP wouldn't effect heavies.
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2385
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Posted - 2014.07.04 23:19:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:
Repair guns already suck at low levels, unless you have lots of SP invested into Minmatar Logistics. You want repair tools to be hit with another nerf? perhaps a nerf at proto levels, but advanced and basic repair tools have been hurt enough, in my opinion.
Should've been more clear; updated OP. 100% in favor of teamwork, but low-risk free orbitals are becoming a problem. Heavy+Logi blobs have replaced the Tank as the new cheap trick in Ambush.
Yes, tanky scouts are also cheap and should to be fixed as well.
Trying to be fair to all sides here :-)
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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