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Will Driver Horizons' Edge Proficiency V. 100	Posted - 2014.07.03 18:51:00 - [1] - Quote Isn't it time to take the bold step and remove these all together? I know, I know, I would be upset (to say it mildly), if I bought a BPO under the promise of having it for life, but it's not fair. That's why I think you've got to take them out (with appropriate refunds) or reintroduce them so they are available for all. GÇ£Creativity is knowing how to hide your sourcesGÇ¥ GÇò Albert Einstein
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2213	Posted - 2014.07.03 19:03:00 - [2] - Quote CCP would be met with some horrific legal action if that happened. They could probably get away with taking away BPOs sold for AUR, but items included in packs directly sold with real money are extremely problematic legally. The Templar BPOs for example sold in the Collectors Edition. Like my ideas? Pokey Dravon for CPM1
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 32	Posted - 2014.07.03 19:21:00 - [3] - Quote Pokey Dravon wrote: CCP would be met with some horrific legal action if that happened. They could probably get away with taking away BPOs sold for AUR, but items included in packs directly sold with real money are extremely problematic legally. The Templar BPOs for example sold in the Collectors Edition. Yes, you're right. CCP can't delete BPO's because those were in packs... They can't give back x AUR for the Dragonfly scout you have paid in the Mercenary pack.... They could tell about it with Sony..................... with EVE LEGION on PC, I think it wouldn't be possible lol Seriously, it's not possible :)
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 281	Posted - 2014.07.03 21:42:00 - [4] - Quote Will Driver wrote: but it's not fair. BWAHAHAHAHAHA
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11557	Posted - 2014.07.03 22:01:00 - [5] - Quote Will Driver wrote: Isn't it time to take the bold step and remove these all together? I know, I know, I would be upset (to say it mildly), if I bought a BPO under the promise of having it for life, but it's not fair. That's why I think you've got to take them out (with appropriate refunds) or reintroduce them so they are available for all. Why remove them. Transfer them to Legion and make them proper industry items that require Industry skills of Industry EVE pilots. Why remove BPO. Players paid real money for these items to support CCP. That would be the last bloody straw for veterans. *"I watched you. From candle to a torch you grew. I'll always remember those days with great affection." - Satja Askarin
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15146	Posted - 2014.07.03 22:08:00 - [6] - Quote BPOs have no meaningful value except as a status symbol. They don't save ISK, not really. You could die 100 times with a BPO fit and the savings from running BPO instead of militia wouldn't even come to a match's entire payout. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Polka will never die.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 133	Posted - 2014.07.03 22:23:00 - [7] - Quote actually in the EULA we all agreed to we have no say when it comes to balances changes and patches they wish to push forth or change at will.. but yes BPOs are too cost efficient. quite often iv been against a BPO player and they just throw the suits away like hell just to suicide to get a kill or 2 Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone? No Mic and no time for "Squeekers" Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 133	Posted - 2014.07.03 22:25:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: BPOs have no meaningful value except as a status symbol. They don't save ISK, not really. You could die 100 times with a BPO fit and the savings from running BPO instead of militia wouldn't even come to a match's entire payout. actually they would by maybe 10-30k per death on militia suit.. it all adds up Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone? No Mic and no time for "Squeekers" Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
Jonny D Buelle Mors Effera 180	Posted - 2014.07.03 22:29:00 - [9] - Quote I'm all for this, but keep in mind that the starter fits are also BPOs. And if we remove those then what would the new players wear for me to kill them? Legionhares Unite!
gauntlet44 LbowDeep Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance 69	Posted - 2014.07.03 22:40:00 - [10] - Quote since there is no player market for them to crash, they should start selling them again. standard or militia level only of course Absorb what is useful, discard what is not, make it uniquely your own........ Bruce Lee

Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 600	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:11:00 - [11] - Quote Without a player market, what negative impact do they have? If the player is already rich (50+ million ISK) then it's pretty irrelevant what you save; if they're poor (like me, less than 10 million ISK) then you get mild savings each match. Seriously, what is your problem with them in DUST's current state? We don't have an area where BPO's generate money hand over fist like EVE's T2 BPO's do and we never will, so why touch them? As someone else said, veterans have paid real money for these - specifically for the BPO's that is - and it would be the proverbial straw that drove away the remaining veterans who are here and still invested in DUST. Including those who still help new berries, despite being treated like whipping boys for 3+ years.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11561	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:20:00 - [12] - Quote gauntlet44 LbowDeep wrote: since there is no player market for them to crash, they should start selling them again. standard or militia level only of course How would they crash the player market. Those T2 hull BPOs in EVE havent crashed the economy have they? *"I watched you. From candle to a torch you grew. I'll always remember those days with great affection." - Satja Askarin
Baal Omniscient Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1891	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:26:00 - [13] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Will Driver wrote: but it's not fair. BWAHAHAHAHAHA ^This, but with more exclamation points. ....and throw an extra helping of trololol's on top. PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
trollface dot jpg The Bacon Corporation 172	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:30:00 - [14] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Will Driver wrote: but it's not fair. BWAHAHAHAHAHA ^This, but with more exclamation points. ....and throw an extra helping of trololol's on top. Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan DO! RIP MAG, you will be missed. MAG Vet ~ Raven
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN 823	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:36:00 - [15] - Quote So... no Frontline or Medics suits either? I have multiple BPOs, the ONLY one I use on a weekly basis is my 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun BPOs are more or less, a veteran privilege. So removing them would be punishing the people who have stuck around for over a year. "I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3613	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:37:00 - [16] - Quote No. (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Baal Omniscient Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1892	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:44:00 - [17] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: So... no Frontline or Medics suits either? I have multiple BPOs, the ONLY one I use on a weekly basis is my 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun BPOs are more or less, a veteran privilege. So removing them would be punishing the people who have stuck around for over a year. Your "Syndicate". Merc pack or in-game marketplace? PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
Hakyou Brutor G0DS AM0NG MEN 824	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:51:00 - [18] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: So... no Frontline or Medics suits either? I have multiple BPOs, the ONLY one I use on a weekly basis is my 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun BPOs are more or less, a veteran privilege. So removing them would be punishing the people who have stuck around for over a year. Your "Syndicate". Merc pack or in-game marketplace? Marketplace. All my other BPOs were in the Merc Pack though. "I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
Baal Omniscient Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1892	Posted - 2014.07.03 23:56:00 - [19] - Quote Hakyou Brutor wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: So... no Frontline or Medics suits either? I have multiple BPOs, the ONLY one I use on a weekly basis is my 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun BPOs are more or less, a veteran privilege. So removing them would be punishing the people who have stuck around for over a year. Your "Syndicate". Merc pack or in-game marketplace? Marketplace. All my other BPOs were in the Merc Pack though. I am... the only one I know.... who went out of their way to get a GameStop Mercpack... just for the "Syndicate".... forever alone....... PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11565	Posted - 2014.07.04 00:02:00 - [20] - Quote Baal Omniscient wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: So... no Frontline or Medics suits either? I have multiple BPOs, the ONLY one I use on a weekly basis is my 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun BPOs are more or less, a veteran privilege. So removing them would be punishing the people who have stuck around for over a year. Your "Syndicate". Merc pack or in-game marketplace? Marketplace. All my other BPOs were in the Merc Pack though. I am... the only one I know.... who went out of their way to get a GameStop Mercpack... just for the "Syndicate".... forever alone....... We Southern Hemisphere dudes don't have Gamestop. EB Games never acknowledged Dust as a game. *"I watched you. From candle to a torch you grew. I'll always remember those days with great affection." - Satja Askarin

Baal Omniscient Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 1898	Posted - 2014.07.04 00:09:00 - [21] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: So... no Frontline or Medics suits either? I have multiple BPOs, the ONLY one I use on a weekly basis is my 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun BPOs are more or less, a veteran privilege. So removing them would be punishing the people who have stuck around for over a year. Your "Syndicate". Merc pack or in-game marketplace? Marketplace. All my other BPOs were in the Merc Pack though. I am... the only one I know.... who went out of their way to get a GameStop Mercpack... just for the "Syndicate".... forever alone....... We Southern Hemisphere dudes don't have Gamestop. EB Games never acknowledged Dust as a game. THAT.... is something about Dust that I was completely unaware of. +1, useless trivia ftw! PSN ID: AlbelNox2569 Cross Atu for CPM1 Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
OZAROW Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 1457	Posted - 2014.07.04 01:53:00 - [22] - Quote Even if dust goes under all bpos and character info should transfer to legion since its only difference is the platform and name, we're not even sure if there will ever be a market , unless the whole thing was pre meditated to rake in the cash on dust, only to vaporize it with a fast money scheme then do the same to legion, either way my loyalty has lost interest. SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 39	Posted - 2014.07.04 02:07:00 - [23] - Quote What's a BPO?
Kuruld Sengar D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1	Posted - 2014.07.04 02:16:00 - [24] - Quote Zindorak wrote: What's a BPO? A blueprint. A free infinitely spammable suit or vehicle that was bought with real money.
Zindorak CaUsE-4-CoNcErN 40	Posted - 2014.07.04 02:27:00 - [25] - Quote Kuruld Sengar wrote: Zindorak wrote: What's a BPO? A blueprint. A free infinitely spammable suit or vehicle that was bought with real money. oh cool
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2369	Posted - 2014.07.04 02:28:00 - [26] - Quote Did you spend $100 on Elite Pack? Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15160	Posted - 2014.07.04 06:00:00 - [27] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: BPOs have no meaningful value except as a status symbol. They don't save ISK, not really. You could die 100 times with a BPO fit and the savings from running BPO instead of militia wouldn't even come to a match's entire payout. actually they would by maybe 10-30k per death on militia suit.. it all adds up A militia suit does not cost anywhere remotely near 30k. I just fitted one and without BPOs it came to 3k. A saving of 3k is hardly valuable. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake. Polka will never die.
THUNDERGROOVE Fatal Absolution 977	Posted - 2014.07.04 10:23:00 - [28] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: actually in the EULA we all agreed to we have no say when it comes to balances changes and patches they wish to push forth or change at will.. but yes BPOs are too cost efficient. quite often iv been against a BPO player and they just throw the suits away like hell just to suicide to get a kill or 2 Cost efficient? A BPO suit with all BPO weapons and STD modules can cost 5-7K ISK. They're saving maybe 5-7K per death. That's close to nothing. I mean, half the matches I played today I got over 400K The Amarr scout bonus is like the old Amarr sentinel bonus. No one needed 25% reduction to overheat damage on a heavy;_;
Skullmiser Vulcansu 127	Posted - 2014.07.04 19:50:00 - [29] - Quote I started splaying after they were removed. I deserve unlimited suits as much as anyone else, so I think they should either be removed or given to everyone. If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 299	Posted - 2014.07.04 20:03:00 - [30] - Quote Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote: I started splaying after they were removed. I deserve unlimited suits as much as anyone else, so I think they should either be removed or given to everyone. entitled much? do you go to (insert store name here) and expect deals from 1965 because you weren't there but since you're here now deserve what the customers from 1965 got?

Boot Booter Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 641	Posted - 2014.07.04 20:18:00 - [31] - Quote If you take away my Syndicate SMG I'll quit. Look vets payed money to support this game by buying blueprints. Weve stuck though countless FOTM and bugs for this game, taking away our BPOs would be the last straw for a lot of people. And really, have they saved me that much isk? Who knows but even if I've saved a few mil off of BPOs, that amount of isk over the amount of time I've played is literally nothing. SMG Specialist
Onesimus Tarsus Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 2243	Posted - 2014.07.05 04:30:00 - [32] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: Baal Omniscient wrote: Hakyou Brutor wrote: So... no Frontline or Medics suits either? I have multiple BPOs, the ONLY one I use on a weekly basis is my 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun BPOs are more or less, a veteran privilege. So removing them would be punishing the people who have stuck around for over a year. Your "Syndicate". Merc pack or in-game marketplace? Marketplace. All my other BPOs were in the Merc Pack though. I am... the only one I know.... who went out of their way to get a GameStop Mercpack... just for the "Syndicate".... forever alone....... We Southern Hemisphere dudes don't have Gamestop. EB Games never acknowledged Dust as a game. Heck, it's barely recognizable as one. K/D(r) WP/D(r) matchmaking fixes the whole game. Period. Seriously. Think about it.
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1657	Posted - 2014.07.05 05:19:00 - [33] - Quote Having a BPO suit and using std gear is a 5 to 10k difference depending on what you put on the suit. So basically the normal player with blueprints saves himself this much per suit max. It is not detrimental to the game and does not break performance. What did happend was that the PC isk faucet was left on for too long and there are players and entities roaming the game with 1 billion isk+ on their wallets by basically locking their districs and raking in the cash. To truly level the playing field CCP should actually reset everyone's wallet to 0 so the people that exploited the district locking don't have such an unfair advantage... District locking was a problem and CCP didn't fix it in time and that in turn created people maingly coordinated groups that can proto stomp without consequence since isk is not an issue for them. This is so bad That I had a guy use 6 incubuses to try and ram mine. I always lured him to a wall and he crashed into it. min 400k x 5 = 2 million isk just to ram someone else and since this person was from a corp known for their district locking It did not hurt his wallet at all. Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
jaksol exendent Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.07.05 05:21:00 - [34] - Quote Will Driver wrote: Isn't it time to take the bold step and remove these all together? I know, I know, I would be upset (to say it mildly), if I bought a BPO under the promise of having it for life, but it's not fair. That's why I think you've got to take them out (with appropriate refunds) or reintroduce them so they are available for all. so ccp gives me 80 bucks back? just saying i dont want arum if this happens the only resion i bought the arum was for the bpos and half my bpos are allready gone
jaksol exendent Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.07.05 05:24:00 - [35] - Quote Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote: I started splaying after they were removed. I deserve unlimited suits as much as anyone else, so I think they should either be removed or given to everyone. feeling entitled much?? we payed money for these. plus they are just milta level suits guns and mods ok so its really not that big of a deal as they are such low level.
jaksol exendent Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.07.05 05:26:00 - [36] - Quote THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: actually in the EULA we all agreed to we have no say when it comes to balances changes and patches they wish to push forth or change at will.. but yes BPOs are too cost efficient. quite often iv been against a BPO player and they just throw the suits away like hell just to suicide to get a kill or 2 Cost efficient? A BPO suit with all BPO weapons and STD modules can cost 5-7K ISK. They're saving maybe 5-7K per death. That's close to nothing. I mean, half the matches I played today I got over 400K my blue print suits are free 100% free
XxGhazbaranxX Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1657	Posted - 2014.07.05 05:55:00 - [37] - Quote jaksol exendent wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: actually in the EULA we all agreed to we have no say when it comes to balances changes and patches they wish to push forth or change at will.. but yes BPOs are too cost efficient. quite often iv been against a BPO player and they just throw the suits away like hell just to suicide to get a kill or 2 Cost efficient? A BPO suit with all BPO weapons and STD modules can cost 5-7K ISK. They're saving maybe 5-7K per death. That's close to nothing. I mean, half the matches I played today I got over 400K my blue print suits are free 100% free I use a dual Basic plasma cannon commando with dual enhanced kin kats and basic nanohive. My suit costs 10k and I always make money in matches even if I die 10 times. So even if my suits were 100% free the effect is the same; making money. The same can be said for militia suits, they are 100% free and the reality is that all the bpos except those of some suits and weapons are militia variants Plasma Cannon Advocate Dust 514 Survivor
jaksol exendent Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.07.05 05:59:00 - [38] - Quote XxGhazbaranxX wrote: jaksol exendent wrote: THUNDERGROOVE wrote: Apothecary Za'ki wrote: actually in the EULA we all agreed to we have no say when it comes to balances changes and patches they wish to push forth or change at will.. but yes BPOs are too cost efficient. quite often iv been against a BPO player and they just throw the suits away like hell just to suicide to get a kill or 2 Cost efficient? A BPO suit with all BPO weapons and STD modules can cost 5-7K ISK. They're saving maybe 5-7K per death. That's close to nothing. I mean, half the matches I played today I got over 400K my blue print suits are free 100% free I use a dual Basic plasma cannon commando with dual enhanced kin kats and basic nanohive. My suit costs 10k and I always make money in matches even if I die 10 times. So even if my suits were 100% free the effect is the same; making money. The same can be said for militia suits, they are 100% free and the reality is that all the bpos except those of some suits and weapons are militia variants true some of the BPO's are slightly beter then the milta ones like the toxin smg has a bigger clip and is more acurite the the milta pus posion bullets (you cant be picked up becouse your body is posioned)
Zelda Harkinian Isuuaya Tactical Caldari State 29	Posted - 2014.07.05 07:06:00 - [39] - Quote I was tricked into playing dust in exchange for a Recruit Assault Rifle BPO. I never use it, but I'm going to be buried with it. --_-- You want some BPO's? Go recruit some new players.
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 377	Posted - 2014.07.05 11:50:00 - [40] - Quote gl with that. the dren pack cost me something like $100 or $200. and I got a fck ton of bpo's and aurum. and I think its done me well. removeing bpos is out of the question. if they were to be removed us vets would be.....well very fckn pissed. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*

Skullmiser Vulcansu 129	Posted - 2014.07.05 17:05:00 - [41] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote: I started splaying after they were removed. I deserve unlimited suits as much as anyone else, so I think they should either be removed or given to everyone. entitled much? do you go to (insert store name here) and expect deals from 1965 because you weren't there but since you're here now deserve what the customers from 1965 got? Yes. I am the most important person in the world, and everyone exists only to make me happy. If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 311	Posted - 2014.07.05 17:30:00 - [42] - Quote Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote: Seymour KrelbornX wrote: Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote: I started splaying after they were removed. I deserve unlimited suits as much as anyone else, so I think they should either be removed or given to everyone. entitled much? do you go to (insert store name here) and expect deals from 1965 because you weren't there but since you're here now deserve what the customers from 1965 got? Yes. I am the most important person in the world, and everyone exists only to make me happy. well thanks for destroying any credibility you may have had. or shame on me for not recognizing a troll...
Mauren NOON The Exemplars Top Men. 343	Posted - 2014.07.05 22:21:00 - [43] - Quote I love my syndicate smg as well as my templar bpos...honestly I am up for bpos being sold in the marketplace for Isk....it would help a lot of people save Isk when being stomped with proto... Scr and commando enthusiast. A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life... "The only thing to fear is fear itself"


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