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Will Driver
Horizons' Edge
Proficiency V.
100
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Posted - 2014.07.03 18:51:00 -
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Isn't it time to take the bold step and remove these all together?
I know, I know, I would be upset (to say it mildly), if I bought a BPO under the promise of having it for life, but it's not fair. That's why I think you've got to take them out (with appropriate refunds) or reintroduce them so they are available for all.
GÇ£Creativity is knowing how to hide your sourcesGÇ¥
GÇò Albert Einstein
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Pokey Dravon
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
2213
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:03:00 -
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CCP would be met with some horrific legal action if that happened.
They could probably get away with taking away BPOs sold for AUR, but items included in packs directly sold with real money are extremely problematic legally. The Templar BPOs for example sold in the Collectors Edition.
Like my ideas?
Pokey Dravon for CPM1
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Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
32
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:21:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:CCP would be met with some horrific legal action if that happened.
They could probably get away with taking away BPOs sold for AUR, but items included in packs directly sold with real money are extremely problematic legally. The Templar BPOs for example sold in the Collectors Edition.
Yes, you're right.
CCP can't delete BPO's because those were in packs...
They can't give back x AUR for the Dragonfly scout you have paid in the Mercenary pack.... They could tell about it with Sony..................... with EVE LEGION on PC, I think it wouldn't be possible lol 
Seriously, it's not possible :) |
Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
281
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:42:00 -
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Will Driver wrote:but it's not fair.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11557
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:01:00 -
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Will Driver wrote:Isn't it time to take the bold step and remove these all together?
I know, I know, I would be upset (to say it mildly), if I bought a BPO under the promise of having it for life, but it's not fair. That's why I think you've got to take them out (with appropriate refunds) or reintroduce them so they are available for all.
Why remove them. Transfer them to Legion and make them proper industry items that require Industry skills of Industry EVE pilots.
Why remove BPO. Players paid real money for these items to support CCP.
That would be the last bloody straw for veterans.
*"I watched you. From candle to a torch you grew. I'll always remember those days with great affection." - Satja Askarin
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15146
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:08:00 -
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BPOs have no meaningful value except as a status symbol.
They don't save ISK, not really. You could die 100 times with a BPO fit and the savings from running BPO instead of militia wouldn't even come to a match's entire payout.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Polka will never die.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
133
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:23:00 -
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actually in the EULA we all agreed to we have no say when it comes to balances changes and patches they wish to push forth or change at will.. but yes BPOs are too cost efficient. quite often iv been against a BPO player and they just throw the suits away like hell just to suicide to get a kill or 2
Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone?
No Mic and no time for "Squeekers"
Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
133
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:25:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:BPOs have no meaningful value except as a status symbol.
They don't save ISK, not really. You could die 100 times with a BPO fit and the savings from running BPO instead of militia wouldn't even come to a match's entire payout.
actually they would by maybe 10-30k per death on militia suit.. it all adds up
Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone?
No Mic and no time for "Squeekers"
Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
180
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:29:00 -
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I'm all for this, but keep in mind that the starter fits are also BPOs. And if we remove those then what would the new players wear for me to kill them?
Legionhares Unite!
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gauntlet44 LbowDeep
Heaven84 Devils
General Tso's Alliance
69
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:40:00 -
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since there is no player market for them to crash, they should start selling them again.
standard or militia level only of course
Absorb what is useful,
discard what is not,
make it uniquely your own........ Bruce Lee
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Kallas Hallytyr
Skullbreakers
600
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:11:00 -
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Without a player market, what negative impact do they have? If the player is already rich (50+ million ISK) then it's pretty irrelevant what you save; if they're poor (like me, less than 10 million ISK) then you get mild savings each match.
Seriously, what is your problem with them in DUST's current state? We don't have an area where BPO's generate money hand over fist like EVE's T2 BPO's do and we never will, so why touch them? As someone else said, veterans have paid real money for these - specifically for the BPO's that is - and it would be the proverbial straw that drove away the remaining veterans who are here and still invested in DUST. Including those who still help new berries, despite being treated like whipping boys for 3+ years. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11561
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:20:00 -
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gauntlet44 LbowDeep wrote:since there is no player market for them to crash, they should start selling them again.
standard or militia level only of course
How would they crash the player market.
Those T2 hull BPOs in EVE havent crashed the economy have they?
*"I watched you. From candle to a torch you grew. I'll always remember those days with great affection." - Satja Askarin
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Baal Omniscient
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1891
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:26:00 -
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^This, but with more exclamation points.
....and throw an extra helping of trololol's on top.
PSN ID: AlbelNox2569
Cross Atu for CPM1
Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
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trollface dot jpg
The Bacon Corporation
172
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:30:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:^This, but with more exclamation points. ....and throw an extra helping of trololol's on top.
Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan DO!
RIP MAG, you will be missed.
MAG Vet ~ Raven
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
823
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:36:00 -
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So... no Frontline or Medics suits either? I have multiple BPOs, the ONLY one I use on a weekly basis is my 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun
BPOs are more or less, a veteran privilege. So removing them would be punishing the people who have stuck around for over a year.
"I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics
League of Infamy
3613
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:37:00 -
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No.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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Baal Omniscient
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1892
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:44:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:So... no Frontline or Medics suits either? I have multiple BPOs, the ONLY one I use on a weekly basis is my 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun
BPOs are more or less, a veteran privilege. So removing them would be punishing the people who have stuck around for over a year.
Your "Syndicate". Merc pack or in-game marketplace?
PSN ID: AlbelNox2569
Cross Atu for CPM1
Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
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Hakyou Brutor
G0DS AM0NG MEN
824
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:51:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:So... no Frontline or Medics suits either? I have multiple BPOs, the ONLY one I use on a weekly basis is my 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun
BPOs are more or less, a veteran privilege. So removing them would be punishing the people who have stuck around for over a year. Your "Syndicate". Merc pack or in-game marketplace?
Marketplace.
All my other BPOs were in the Merc Pack though.
"I never pull out" ~Ace Boone, 2014.
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Baal Omniscient
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1892
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:56:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:So... no Frontline or Medics suits either? I have multiple BPOs, the ONLY one I use on a weekly basis is my 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun
BPOs are more or less, a veteran privilege. So removing them would be punishing the people who have stuck around for over a year. Your "Syndicate". Merc pack or in-game marketplace? Marketplace. All my other BPOs were in the Merc Pack though.
I am... the only one I know.... who went out of their way to get a GameStop Mercpack... just for the "Syndicate"....
forever alone.......
PSN ID: AlbelNox2569
Cross Atu for CPM1
Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11565
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Posted - 2014.07.04 00:02:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:So... no Frontline or Medics suits either? I have multiple BPOs, the ONLY one I use on a weekly basis is my 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun
BPOs are more or less, a veteran privilege. So removing them would be punishing the people who have stuck around for over a year. Your "Syndicate". Merc pack or in-game marketplace? Marketplace. All my other BPOs were in the Merc Pack though. I am... the only one I know.... who went out of their way to get a GameStop Mercpack... just for the "Syndicate".... forever alone.......
We Southern Hemisphere dudes don't have Gamestop.
EB Games never acknowledged Dust as a game.
*"I watched you. From candle to a torch you grew. I'll always remember those days with great affection." - Satja Askarin
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Baal Omniscient
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1898
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Posted - 2014.07.04 00:09:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:So... no Frontline or Medics suits either? I have multiple BPOs, the ONLY one I use on a weekly basis is my 'Syndicate' Submachine Gun
BPOs are more or less, a veteran privilege. So removing them would be punishing the people who have stuck around for over a year. Your "Syndicate". Merc pack or in-game marketplace? Marketplace. All my other BPOs were in the Merc Pack though. I am... the only one I know.... who went out of their way to get a GameStop Mercpack... just for the "Syndicate".... forever alone....... We Southern Hemisphere dudes don't have Gamestop. EB Games never acknowledged Dust as a game.
THAT.... is something about Dust that I was completely unaware of. +1, useless trivia ftw!
PSN ID: AlbelNox2569
Cross Atu for CPM1
Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
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OZAROW
Opus Arcana
Covert Intervention
1457
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Posted - 2014.07.04 01:53:00 -
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Even if dust goes under all bpos and character info should transfer to legion since its only difference is the platform and name, we're not even sure if there will ever be a market , unless the whole thing was pre meditated to rake in the cash on dust, only to vaporize it with a fast money scheme then do the same to legion, either way my loyalty has lost interest.
SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
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Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
39
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Posted - 2014.07.04 02:07:00 -
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What's a BPO? |
Kuruld Sengar
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1
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Posted - 2014.07.04 02:16:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:What's a BPO?
A blueprint. A free infinitely spammable suit or vehicle that was bought with real money. |
Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
40
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Posted - 2014.07.04 02:27:00 -
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Kuruld Sengar wrote:Zindorak wrote:What's a BPO? A blueprint. A free infinitely spammable suit or vehicle that was bought with real money.
oh cool |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
2369
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Posted - 2014.07.04 02:28:00 -
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Did you spend $100 on Elite Pack?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15160
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Posted - 2014.07.04 06:00:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:BPOs have no meaningful value except as a status symbol.
They don't save ISK, not really. You could die 100 times with a BPO fit and the savings from running BPO instead of militia wouldn't even come to a match's entire payout. actually they would by maybe 10-30k per death on militia suit.. it all adds up
A militia suit does not cost anywhere remotely near 30k.
I just fitted one and without BPOs it came to 3k.
A saving of 3k is hardly valuable.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Polka will never die.
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
977
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Posted - 2014.07.04 10:23:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:actually in the EULA we all agreed to we have no say when it comes to balances changes and patches they wish to push forth or change at will.. but yes BPOs are too cost efficient. quite often iv been against a BPO player and they just throw the suits away like hell just to suicide to get a kill or 2
Cost efficient? A BPO suit with all BPO weapons and STD modules can cost 5-7K ISK. They're saving maybe 5-7K per death. That's close to nothing.
I mean, half the matches I played today I got over 400K
The Amarr scout bonus is like the old Amarr sentinel bonus. No one needed 25% reduction to overheat damage on a heavy;_;
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Skullmiser Vulcansu
127
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Posted - 2014.07.04 19:50:00 -
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I started splaying after they were removed.
I deserve unlimited suits as much as anyone else, so I think they should either be removed or given to everyone.
If this game was fun, I wouldn't be playing it.
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Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
299
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Posted - 2014.07.04 20:03:00 -
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Skullmiser Vulcansu wrote:I started splaying after they were removed.
I deserve unlimited suits as much as anyone else, so I think they should either be removed or given to everyone.
entitled much?
do you go to (insert store name here) and expect deals from 1965 because you weren't there but since you're here now deserve what the customers from 1965 got? |
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