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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.03 16:28:00 -
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If you had to build a 6 man squad full of "hard counters" for the current, and some still surviving bs tactics people use in this game, how would you go about it? What's the ideal roster to be able to stop these fotm mongers dead in their tracks?
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1660
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Posted - 2014.07.03 16:43:00 -
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Perhaps not a strict FotM counter, but I've always wanted to see a squad of 2 ADSs with heavies and/or a logi riding along and hopping out to hack points or kill people.
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad.
3457
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Posted - 2014.07.03 16:48:00 -
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Cal scouts with damps and precision mods with ACR?
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3941
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Posted - 2014.07.03 17:25:00 -
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Probably Cal/GalScouts and Heavy/Logis.
Maybe two scouts and two heavy/logis?
And maybe we could stick them all in tanks and ADSes at first.
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AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5
CalLogi, you're next!
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15136
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Posted - 2014.07.03 17:46:00 -
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1 Calscout, 4 heavies, and 1 logi.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Polka will never die.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Negative-Impact Gentlemen's.Club
4470
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:13:00 -
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i've been pulling out my Amarr assault with scram rifle more and more in PC's everyone running around in there cal scouts they drop so easily... :D
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
5991
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:32:00 -
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Teamwork but that's a bit too hard for most people.
Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
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Ryme Intrinseca
The Rainbow Effect Dirt Nap Squad.
1410
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:37:00 -
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The only counter to FOTM is more FOTM. |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
6289
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:43:00 -
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Yeah, sadly the counter to heavies and scouts is scouts and heavies.
GG CCP
see you space cowboy...
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
3957
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:44:00 -
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Liam Neeson, Fidel Castro, Ulysses Grant, Kermit The Frog, Samuel L Jackson, Socrates
Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
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Forlorn Destrier
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:47:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Perhaps not a strict FotM counter, but I've always wanted to see a squad of 2 ADSs with heavies and/or a logi riding along and hopping out to hack points or kill people.
That sounds cool as hell.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Forlorn Destrier
2639
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:49:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Liam Neeson, Fidel Castro, Ulysses Grant, Kermit The Frog, Samuel L Jackson, Socrates
Silly boy, you only need Liam in that list.
I am the Forgotten Warhorse, the Lord of Lightning
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Lynn Beck
Fooly Cooly.
1992
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Posted - 2014.07.03 19:50:00 -
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2 minmatar assaults(nanohive on 1, needle on other)
1 minmatar sentinel HMG/bolt pistol
1 minmatar Logi (needle/uplinks/scanner/more nanos)
1 minmatar commando with MD/Swarm and Repair tool(yup.)
1 minja with 2 damps, 2precisions, and 1 range amp, fitted with a kniffs and Sniper Rifle, equips are uplink/needle
Oh how i wish.
General John Ripper
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Tectonic Fusion
1841
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Posted - 2014.07.03 20:05:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:Teamwork but that's a bit too hard for most people. Yeah, but you'll need at least one logi.
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
517
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:07:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:If you had to build a 6 man squad full of "hard counters" for the current, and some still surviving bs tactics people use in this game, how would you go about it? What's the ideal roster to be able to stop these fotm mongers dead in their tracks?
2 sentinals with a side arm damage mod or two, ADV/Proto Magsec Side Arm, ADV/Proto Forge 2 min scouts, 2 complex dampeners, 1 enhanced kinkat, 3 complex shield extenders, proto light weapon of choice (ScP/ScR/Shotgun), proto uplink, adv injectors 2 Amarr logies, 3 complex precision enhancers, 1 complex range amp, 1 complex armor plate, 1 enhanced armor plate, dual honed rep tool, proto uplink, injector on 1 and armor reps, ammo reps, and proto uplink on the other
Sentinals keep lav's, DS's, ADS's, and tanks away/at bay. If infantry gets heavy they throw their flux and finish the rest with magsec.
Min scouts work together on hacks, stay under cal radar and can escape quickly and drop an uplink on a losing battle to get reinforcements
Amarr logis can have the super fast spawns for the Heavies. Heavies should be brick tanked out. I run this exact forge fit with my Adv Amarr Sentinal to massive success in one on ones against other heavies with proto HMG's. The flux does all of the serious work. The magsec just does the rest.
You can see how the uplinks will help. Everyone runs flux to destroy equipment and shields on everything so that the heavies can maximize effort.
This is my ideal set up...even for PC I would do something like this.
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Spademan
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
2041
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:10:00 -
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6 people. Proto Min comando. Load it up on complex Myofribrills and KinCats.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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hold that
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:14:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:2 minmatar assaults(nanohive on 1, needle on other)
1 minmatar sentinel HMG/bolt pistol
1 minmatar Logi (needle/uplinks/scanner/more nanos)
1 minmatar commando with MD/Swarm and Repair tool(yup.)
1 minja with 2 damps, 2precisions, and 1 range amp, fitted with a kniffs and Sniper Rifle, equips are uplink/needle
Oh how i wish.
1 min logi with no rep tool? l33t
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5555
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:14:00 -
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Nothing but Plasma cannons and REs, motherfuckers
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lunatis orrak
Battlefield Brawlers
36
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:18:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Cal scouts with damps and precision mods with ACR?
That is the flavor of the montg lol perfect counter
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Fizzer94
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:35:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:2 minmatar assaults(nanohive on 1, needle on other)
1 minmatar sentinel HMG/bolt pistol
1 minmatar Logi (needle/uplinks/scanner/more nanos)
1 minmatar commando with MD/Swarm and Repair tool(yup.)
1 minja with 2 damps, 2precisions, and 1 range amp, fitted with a kniffs and Sniper Rifle, equips are uplink/needle
Oh how i wish. Until I drop them all with a Laser Rifle death sweep.
My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon.
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Baal Omniscient
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
1893
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Posted - 2014.07.04 00:31:00 -
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MD's, PLC's, Forge Guns and PLENTY of Fluxes!
PSN ID: AlbelNox2569
Cross Atu for CPM1
Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
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Baal Omniscient
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
1893
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Posted - 2014.07.04 00:39:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:1 Calscout, 4 heavies, and 1 logi. .....That IS a FotM squad....
Ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh.......
PSN ID: AlbelNox2569
Cross Atu for CPM1
Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
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Izlare Lenix
BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Dark Taboo
754
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Posted - 2014.07.04 00:40:00 -
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An entire team of laser rifles. They will counter everything.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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TEBOW BAGGINS
Defenders of the Helghast Dream Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1093
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Posted - 2014.07.04 01:22:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Perhaps not a strict FotM counter, but I've always wanted to see a squad of 2 ADSs with heavies and/or a logi riding along and hopping out to hack points or kill people.
was about to say the same thing, i sometimes get a full incubus-1 gunner, 3 hotdroppers, i usually only play when they're on
we do hotdrops and overwatch then extract and move on
sometimes i have an overflow of ppl i know that have already done a lot hotdrops and they have to take lav instead, if you wanna try it out sometime
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
39
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Posted - 2014.07.04 02:04:00 -
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I hope this isn't a stupid question. What is FOTM? |
TEBOW BAGGINS
Defenders of the Helghast Dream Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1093
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Posted - 2014.07.04 02:08:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:I hope this isn't a stupid question. What is FOTM?
flavor of the month- the current "best" build- min/maxed fit
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
AFKing since 2012
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Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
40
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Posted - 2014.07.04 02:59:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Zindorak wrote:I hope this isn't a stupid question. What is FOTM? flavor of the month- the current "best" build- min/maxed fit
ok thanks for explaining |
Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.04 03:15:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:I hope this isn't a stupid question. What is FOTM? freaking on the mommy
see you space cowboy...
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Poison Howl
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
143
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Posted - 2014.07.04 03:38:00 -
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Two sentinels, one logi, a cal scout, a commando, and an assault. Why an assault class you ask? Excellent question dear merc! FOTMers can't resist the urge an easy kill that is the assault class. Here is what you do:
-You take the assault and chain him to a pole. Ignore his cries for help and mercy. -Have the cal scout cloak and just sit there and watch him. -When the cal scout detects FOTMers advancing on the assault, have cal scout point them out to rest of squad. -Squad kills FOTMers. -Rinse and repeat.
*If the assault some how gets loose, catch him, break his legs, and chain him up again.
For every point of happiness we gain in this game, our madness increases exponentially.
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Justice Prevails
277
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Posted - 2014.07.04 05:15:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Perhaps not a strict FotM counter, but I've always wanted to see a squad of 2 ADSs with heavies and/or a logi riding along and hopping out to hack points or kill people. was about to say the same thing, i sometimes get a full incubus-1 gunner, 3 hotdroppers, i usually only play when they're on we do hotdrops and overwatch then extract and move on sometimes i have an overflow of ppl i know that have already done a lot hotdrops and they have to take lav instead, if you wanna try it out sometime
Wasn't sure if it was you guys or not, but ran into something like that a while back. It was very well organized and a thing of beauty to watch, even being on the receiving end. All I could do was send the pilot a gg
Embracing my inner scrub since 2013.
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Boot Booter
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
638
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Posted - 2014.07.04 06:28:00 -
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6 min assaults.
SMG Specialist
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aaaasdff ertgfdd
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
23
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Posted - 2014.07.04 06:40:00 -
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Reign Omega wrote:If you had to build a 6 man squad full of "hard counters" for the current, and some still surviving bs tactics people use in this game, how would you go about it? What's the ideal roster to be able to stop these fotm mongers dead in their tracks? Skill, skill trumps all. Can't nerf my thumbs. |
aaaasdff ertgfdd
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.04 06:42:00 -
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Poison Howl wrote:Two sentinels, one logi, a cal scout, a commando, and an assault. Why an assault class you ask? Excellent question dear merc! FOTMers can't resist the urge an easy kill that is the assault class. Here is what you do:
-You take the assault and chain him to a pole. Ignore his cries for help and mercy. -Have the cal scout cloak and just sit there and watch him. -When the cal scout detects FOTMers advancing on the assault, have cal scout point them out to rest of squad. -Squad kills FOTMers. -Rinse and repeat.
*If the assault some how gets loose, catch him, break his legs, and chain him up again. Cal scouts cant see the FOTM noob. |
Pvt Numnutz
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1611
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Posted - 2014.07.04 06:54:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Perhaps not a strict FotM counter, but I've always wanted to see a squad of 2 ADSs with heavies and/or a logi riding along and hopping out to hack points or kill people. Works better with one ADS without guns and more tank and the other ADS with guns transporting the squad. Transport ADS flies in and drops squad, provides what support he can until clip is empty or av is spotted. Transport ads bugs out high and awaits pickup order while tanked ads comes in to provide close air support. Transport ads can advise on hostile vehicle movement for close air. Once point is hacked, tanked ads moves to next point to scout while transport ads retrieves squad and moves to the, now scouted, objective. I've done this before and it works out really well.
Though its also effective to run one ads with two gunners and two shock troops one of which being a min scout super hacker and dropping them at points while providing cover. Best point control you can possible get. And two XT gunners make excellent covering fire. |
THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.07.04 10:00:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:i've been pulling out my Amarr assault with scram rifle more and more in PC's everyone running around in there cal scouts they drop so easily... :D You have the Amarr logi right? Try running three complex precision enhancers and a complex range amplifier. So much fun to drop scouts with a Viziam on that fit.
The Amarr scout bonus is like the old Amarr sentinel bonus. No one needed 25% reduction to overheat damage on a heavy;_;
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Jonny D Buelle
Mors Effera
183
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Posted - 2014.07.04 10:08:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:2 minmatar assaults(nanohive on 1, needle on other)
1 minmatar sentinel HMG/bolt pistol
1 minmatar Logi (needle/uplinks/scanner/more nanos)
1 minmatar commando with MD/Swarm and Repair tool(yup.)
1 minja with 2 damps, 2precisions, and 1 range amp, fitted with a kniffs and Sniper Rifle, equips are uplink/needle
Oh how i wish.
As much as I love the Matari, this squad wouldn't do so well for a few things.
First thing is that the Matari Logi gets a boost to rep tools, so not having one is just the worst way to run it.
Second, Matari sentinels are hit-and-run style game play due to highest sentinel speeds and decent shields. They are not built for extended combat like the Amarr, Caldari, and Gallente. You will need a sentinel in a squad that can take a hit if your squad goes against another sentinel.
Third thing is that minjas are definately not the best snipers. They make the best hackers and will do better in CQC with a cloak then in the rear with a sniper. Snipers are best used (in my opinion) on Caldari Commandos due to their damage boost to rail weapons.
And thats pretty much it. Oh, and the Minmando should use nanohives not a reptool...
Legionhares Unite!
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Toro Navajo
Defenders of the Helghast Dream Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
74
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:58:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Zindorak wrote:I hope this isn't a stupid question. What is FOTM? flavor of the month- the current "best" build- min/maxed fit
DEFEND ON! |
Toro Navajo
Defenders of the Helghast Dream Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
74
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Posted - 2014.07.09 21:58:00 -
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TEBOW BAGGINS wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Perhaps not a strict FotM counter, but I've always wanted to see a squad of 2 ADSs with heavies and/or a logi riding along and hopping out to hack points or kill people. was about to say the same thing, i sometimes get a full incubus-1 gunner, 3 hotdroppers, i usually only play when they're on we do hotdrops and overwatch then extract and move on sometimes i have an overflow of ppl i know that have already done a lot hotdrops and they have to take lav instead, if you wanna try it out sometime
DEFEND ON! |
JUDASisMYhomeboy
xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
45
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Posted - 2014.07.10 00:28:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Nothing but Plasma cannons and REs, motherfuckers Yup. What he said. Even if you get stomped you still have fun |
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