DUST Search - Official CPM Thread

Zatara Rought wrote:

Bubaloo1 wrote:

Because Zatara lies, abuses mechanics, and quite simply there are far better candidates out there. If you look back at the gallente scout feedback thread you'll notice how zatara supported removing the cloak's dampening bonus knowing full well it would make the caldari scout overpowered and the minmatar and ammar scouts useless. Also, isn't it zatara's job to convince me to vote for him? All he has going for him is a list of meaningless endorsements and a lot of play time.

Not trying to be a **** but you asked why

Actually the changes I suggested made it so cal scouts have the toughest time (i feely admit they should IMO be the only scout not completely unscannable as an offset to the scanning they bring to the table) being completely unscannable due to only having 2 lows while making sure min and amarr have an easier time.

So you're saying the min and amarr scouts should have to use 3 low slots to be unscannable? Also, being scanned is irrelevant when you can see everyone.

In game actions are unimpeachable and thus irrelevant with regards to assertions of lieing.

I'm sorry you feel I abused mechanics.

I could be the biggest most nefarious person around, and that wouldn't be justification for not considering my campaign.

That is definitely justification. The cpm should be made of accountable, honest people. If the community can't trust you in game, then how can they trust you irl?

If you feel there are better candidates out there, go stop by their threads.

Already have

I stand behind the idea E-war needs rebalancing and equipment should not offer module bonuses like dampening.

If you disagree feel free to justify it.

The cloak is useless if it doesn't provide a dampening bonus. There's no point in being invisible if entire squads can see a chevron over your head.

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SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 252	Posted - 2014.07.08 12:15:00 - [91] - Quote Kem, you're an excellent poster. Shame you really don't run yourself. But I'll stop here, Zatara's asked nicely for this to end, guess he doesn't like all the bumping :3 was fun. o/
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit 2450	Posted - 2014.07.08 12:23:00 - [92] - Quote Perhaps next year. lmao ;) Zat's got my vote this year though, and I hope you consider helping him get elected by contributing your vote. He needs your help and vote, whether he likes it or not. Markdown:
SoTasLost Property Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 253	Posted - 2014.07.08 12:32:00 - [93] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: Perhaps next year. lmao ;) Zat's got my vote this year though, and I hope you consider helping him get elected by contributing your vote. He needs your help and vote, whether he likes it or not. sigh, my problem with Zatara is one he asked for, not one I gave freely. So I'll have to decline in offering my support.
Bubaloo1 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 1	Posted - 2014.07.08 15:17:00 - [94] - Quote Did I start all this? All I meant was that I don't trust zatara enough to remain impartial when considering how heavily involved he is with pc. Also, I don't see anything that separates you from the other candidates other than your pc experience.
The Noob Destroyer 905	Posted - 2014.07.08 18:59:00 - [95] - Quote SoTasLost Property wrote: I will say this one more time so the FA guys can read it, again, for maybe the fourth time. Picking Zatara for CPM is basically picking any decent member of the community, he adds nothing more or less then the next joe. What exactly defines him as something we need on CPM? Because you guys like him? Well, then why don't we all vote in General John Ripper? He'll listen just as well as Zatara, has an actual programming background to comprehend what is being said to him, and is probably more active over-all both in game and on forums. Do you see my point? Sota was right. What were we thinking???? RIPPER FOR CPM! Save us Ripper! Save us from this wretched existance! Who am I? I am just a nobody.
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit 2453	Posted - 2014.07.08 19:57:00 - [96] - Quote The Noob Destroyer wrote: Sota was right. What were we thinking???? RIPPER FOR CPM! Save us Ripper! Save us from this wretched existance! Silence you! Markdown:
KenKaniff69 Subdreddit 2453	Posted - 2014.07.08 19:58:00 - [97] - Quote Bubaloo1 wrote: No Ok look another PC player who can't list reasons why he should be voting for Zat in order to even justify why he disagrees with him. NEXT! Markdown:
Bubaloo1 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 2	Posted - 2014.07.08 23:37:00 - [98] - Quote Because Zatara lies, abuses mechanics, and quite simply there are far better candidates out there. If you look back at the gallente scout feedback thread you'll notice how zatara supported removing the cloak's dampening bonus knowing full well it would make the caldari scout overpowered and the minmatar and ammar scouts useless.
Atiim Fooly Cooly. Anime Empire. 10311	Posted - 2014.07.08 23:39:00 - [99] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: Bubaloo1 wrote: No Ok look another PC player who can't list reasons why he should be voting for Zat in order to even justify why he disagrees with him. NEXT! I don't really see a problem with that. If you can't list reasons as to why you should be voting for someone, then you shouldn't vote for that person. However, going to someone's campaign thread and simply typing "No", is asking for trouble, and inflammatory. Long Live The Anime Empire "You know what? You really, REALLY, like to dampen the mood" - Lea Silencio -HAND
Bubaloo1 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 2	Posted - 2014.07.09 00:06:00 - [100] - Quote Atiim wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: Bubaloo1 wrote: No Ok look another PC player who can't list reasons why he should be voting for Zat in order to even justify why he disagrees with him. NEXT! I don't really see a problem with that. If you can't list reasons as to why you should be voting for someone, then you shouldn't vote for that person. However, going to someone's campaign thread and simply typing "No", is asking for trouble, and inflammatory. No

Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3545	Posted - 2014.07.09 00:18:00 - [101] - Quote Bubaloo1 wrote: Because Zatara lies, abuses mechanics, and quite simply there are far better candidates out there. If you look back at the gallente scout feedback thread you'll notice how zatara supported removing the cloak's dampening bonus knowing full well it would make the caldari scout overpowered and the minmatar and ammar scouts useless. Also, isn't it zatara's job to convince me to vote for him? All he has going for him is a list of meaningless endorsements and a lot of play time. Not trying to be a **** but you asked why Actually the changes I suggested made it so cal scouts have the toughest time (i feely admit they should IMO be the only scout not completely unscannable as an offset to the scanning they bring to the table) being completely unscannable due to only having 2 lows while making sure min and amarr have an easier time. In game actions are unimpeachable and thus irrelevant with regards to assertions of lieing. I'm sorry you feel I abused mechanics. I could be the biggest most nefarious person around, and that wouldn't be justification for not considering my campaign. If you feel there are better candidates out there, go stop by their threads. I stand behind the idea E-war needs rebalancing and equipment should not offer module bonuses like dampening. If you disagree feel free to justify it. Candidate for CPM1 Go VOTE! Dust514.com They call me Princess Zatata <3
Bubaloo1 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 2	Posted - 2014.07.09 02:53:00 - [102] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Bubaloo1 wrote: Because Zatara lies, abuses mechanics, and quite simply there are far better candidates out there. If you look back at the gallente scout feedback thread you'll notice how zatara supported removing the cloak's dampening bonus knowing full well it would make the caldari scout overpowered and the minmatar and ammar scouts useless. Also, isn't it zatara's job to convince me to vote for him? All he has going for him is a list of meaningless endorsements and a lot of play time. Not trying to be a ** but you asked why Actually the changes I suggested made it so cal scouts have the toughest time (i feely admit they should IMO be the only scout not completely unscannable as an offset to the scanning they bring to the table) being completely unscannable due to only having 2 lows while making sure min and amarr have an easier time. So you're saying the min and amarr scouts should have to use 3 low slots to be unscannable? Also, being scanned is irrelevant when you can see everyone. In game actions are unimpeachable and thus irrelevant with regards to assertions of lieing. I'm sorry you feel I abused mechanics. I could be the biggest most nefarious person around, and that wouldn't be justification for not considering my campaign. That is definitely justification. The cpm should be made of accountable, honest people. If the community can't trust you in game, then how can they trust you irl? If you feel there are better candidates out there, go stop by their threads. Already have I stand behind the idea E-war needs rebalancing and equipment should not offer module bonuses like dampening. If you disagree feel free to justify it. The cloak is useless if it doesn't provide a dampening bonus. There's no point in being invisible if entire squads can see a chevron over your head.**
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3545	Posted - 2014.07.09 03:56:00 - [103] - Quote Bubaloo1 wrote: So you're saying the min and amarr scouts should have to use 3 low slots to be unscannable? Also, being scanned is irrelevant when you can see everyone. That is definitely justification. The cpm should be made of accountable, honest people. If the community can't trust you in game, then how can they trust you irl? Already have The cloak is useless if it doesn't provide a dampening bonus. There's no point in being invisible if entire squads can see a chevron over your head. Being completely unscannable should be a tremendous endeavor that requires 3 damps from an amarr and min, IMO. If we want scouts to choose between being speed tanked and invisible I think this would contribute to that cause. I found myself in the minority on this though and supported the changes because the community wished them. The cloak is very useful even if it only makes you invisible, you simply need to use it in conjunction with damps. Nevertheless I agree while being scanned it's currently useless I've suggested how this should be reworked after conversing with Appia about it. She suggested the cloak should erase your direction of the chevron while we were discussing how to make it better without offering module bonuses. I think it's a cool idea. And I'm open to more suggestions. The current meta of simply being unscannable off the bat on all fittings while remaining tanked aside from Min who suffer vastly form cpu/pg deficiency is deplorable. Needs to be a sacrifice to get under most all scans...like 2 damps..and then a game changing amount of investment fitting wise to be completely under all scans. But as it was in 1.7 for gal scouts, only extended to allow allow or allow but the cal perhaps as previously mentioned. Although, as I've previously said, I may be wrong and am not on the CPM to proffer my views but those of the community. I think Rattati echoed each others sentiments that scouts shouldn't be able to have their cake and eat it too in terms of e-war and while retaining negligible differences in tank compared to assaults. Actually the people who are some of the largest scoundrels in Eve have made great CSM's. Furthermore a recent study actually published that there's a link between doing morally questionable things in a video game and being more morally sensitive to doing 'good' as a result. Regardless I completely disagree that in game actions like stealing or scamming should have anything to do with how you vote. And the wealth of contributors to the past CSM that were accused of such things stand as positive evidence to my point. Being able to separate my in game actions like contributing to the end of the DNS donut through betrayal is not a good reason to vote or not vote for me. Candidate for CPM1 Go VOTE! Dust514.com They call me Princess Zatata <3
Djinn SouI Molden Heath PoIice Department 15	Posted - 2014.07.09 04:42:00 - [104] - Quote MHPD does not approve of Zatara
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3545	Posted - 2014.07.09 04:58:00 - [105] - Quote Djinn SouI wrote: MHPD does not approve of Zatara But the immortal john ripper does! HA! Candidate for CPM1 Go VOTE! Dust514.com They call me Princess Zatata <3
Djinn SouI Molden Heath PoIice Department 15	Posted - 2014.07.09 05:05:00 - [106] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Djinn SouI wrote: MHPD does not approve of Zatara But the immortal john ripper does! HA! You and him are both traitors!! Tell him to give us back our money.
Zatara Rought General Tso's Alliance 3545	Posted - 2014.07.09 05:29:00 - [107] - Quote Djinn SouI wrote: Zatara Rought wrote: Djinn SouI wrote: MHPD does not approve of Zatara But the immortal john ripper does! HA! You and him are both traitors!! Tell him to give us back our money. Will do. Candidate for CPM1 Go VOTE! Dust514.com They call me Princess Zatata <3
Hawk-eye Occultus ARKOMBlNE 260	Posted - 2014.07.09 10:22:00 - [108] - Quote Zatara Rought wrote: Djinn SouI wrote: MHPD does not approve of Zatara But the immortal john ripper does! HA! Immortal John Ripper will never be General Von Ripper! Not to me... Shofixti beats an Ur-Quan Dreadnought and a Kor-Ah Marauder.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 15263	Posted - 2014.07.09 10:32:00 - [109] - Quote Hawk-eye Occultus wrote: Immortal John Ripper will never be General Von Ripper! Not to me... 'Von' Ripper? What is this blasphemy? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Shadow of War88 0uter.Heaven 411	Posted - 2014.07.13 03:44:00 - [110] - Quote Has the campaign been more taxing on yourself and the corp then expected? & justice for all

Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3603	Posted - 2014.07.13 03:56:00 - [111] - Quote Shadow of War88 wrote: Has the campaign been more taxing on yourself and the corp then expected? Perhaps. Once the TLOD experiment ended with Rampy's AE exodus FA was quite weak. We have activity, but never 16. and never an a-team sadly. Candidate for CPM1 Go VOTE! Dust514.com They call me Princess Zatata <3
xTheSiLLyRaBBiTx Haus of Triage 206	Posted - 2014.07.14 20:26:00 - [112] - Quote Zatara has my vote. He led a corp that came from underdog roots. Running together in leadership with him through being on the losing side first before FA became legend leads my resolve to know through all this Z cares about the competitive as well as casual aspect of this game. He understands it. He understands the flaws. He truly does want the game to succeed further. xTSRx *\|LOGi GOD\|* Join Haus of Triage
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 2265	Posted - 2014.07.15 09:25:00 - [113] - Quote This candidate has been endorsed by the panty warrior. May he wield his rifle the way I wield the panty dropper beats. I am the skybound warrior, you will know to run when you hear the music from above that make panties disappear.
Hypocrite Judge Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.07.15 16:45:00 - [114] - Quote Zatara, do you help out new players? for example, if you was going through the forums and you noticed a new player creating their own corporation and they put up a post giving a description of their corporation, would you help them out and give them guidance/tips?
hfderrtgvcd Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 149	Posted - 2014.07.15 17:56:00 - [115] - Quote Hypocrite Judge wrote: Zatara, do you help out new players? for example, if you was going through the forums and you noticed a new player creating their own corporation and they put up a post giving a description of their corporation, would you help them out and give them guidance/tips? what's the point of even asking a question like that? No cpm candidate is going to say no, I don't help new players.
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3631	Posted - 2014.07.16 03:51:00 - [116] - Quote Hypocrite Judge wrote: Zatara, do you help out new players? for example, if you was going through the forums and you noticed a new player creating their own corporation and they put up a post giving a description of their corporation, would you help them out and give them guidance/tips? Hell yeah! And you should ask some indy corps like horizons edge or enclave syndicate for personal examples where ive reached put to help bump, speak with, and even give tips. I even have given districts to newer pc corps. Ive bumped numerous recruit threads and love speaking with anyone about my own experiences building a corp from 10 core members to what we have built today. Candidate for CPM1 Go VOTE! Dust514.com They call me Princess Zatata <3
Zatara Rought Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3631	Posted - 2014.07.16 04:03:00 - [117] - Quote Furthermore i often join squads when im soloing (higher % of having mics or at least listening) and talk about what they are running, what they hate enjoy and want improved. Although i think i woll improve and make an effort to reach out and try to help them improve of they are amiable. :D Ive always been known for helping people theorycraft how to make fits or strats and spent loooong long hours dping so to the benefit of old friends like ellithana mori to strats n such with teamplayers (actually cubs used to reprove me and a few others often for spending literally hours trying to figure put what needed to improve if a win wasnt decisive enough. Obviously this most recent example was not new players however. I am not the end all be all deity of helping newbros despite my vested interest. Ive picked a lot of new players and brought them into my family to help them become who they are today. Some were just beasts waiting to happen and others needed heavy repetitious counsel, but they shared the same quality of being relatively young and wanted more. Hell i made jenova a director after a few weeks of watching his ambition and dedication unfold through experiences despite him having only 7 mill sp at the time. Candidate for CPM1 Go VOTE! Dust514.com They call me Princess Zatata <3
Derrith Erador Fatal Absolution 2288	Posted - 2014.07.16 04:24:00 - [118] - Quote Hi, Derrith Erador here with the Panty dropper weekly. For you, we have one question and one question only. On a scale of 1-10, How cute is this video? I am the skybound warrior, you will know to run when you hear the music from above that make panties disappear.
Roman837 Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo 491	Posted - 2014.07.16 21:18:00 - [119] - Quote I support Zatara running. Even if diplomatically hes my "enemy" He cares enough about the game to help enact change. He is also the only member I really reconize running that has made a significant impact on the game, good and bad. Maple Syrup Drinking Canadian, EVE Characters Cesar Sousa, CEO of ERA
Enitiy Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 0	Posted - 2014.07.20 10:12:00 - [120] - Quote I support Zatara , the one and only Zat



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