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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.28 22:46:00 -
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the laser rifle
i barely ever see it..on the field unless its in my hands and whenever i stomp with it( pretty much everytime i use it) people are just flabergasted and amazed.
i get messages like
HOW DID YOU DO THAT 700 EHP GONE IN .01 SECS
hacker laser beam insta kill cheater
i have yet t see my favorite rifle making a comeback even though i have been spamming it relentlessly for the past month.
i never see anyone stomping with it but me.
personally i feel the weapon is a bit op..i can death touch a fully brick tanked amar heavy at 33 m
so anyways thoughts..is the majority opinion in the community that the laser rifle is up...has this event changed how people see my death beam?
is it being used more are people catching on the lr is a very VERY valid weapon again yet?
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Posted - 2014.06.28 22:57:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:I guess it takes a lot of skill to use it. Not an easy weapon to master. Puts people off, puts me off.
really?
i mean like more skill than say the
spray n pray weapons
like combat rifles
hmgs
smgs
ars
are you a scrambler user?
anyone who uses precision weapons that actually require gun game over spray n pray should be able to accel with the lr |
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Posted - 2014.06.28 23:01:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:I don't know why people don't use it as much as other weapons, since the buff, it got increased range( I think) and better damage up close, I can't tell you how many times I almost get Insta killed when I get in range of one of them.
things that have changed with lr since the buff
base dmg raised
hidden dmg multiplier now rises throughout tiers..i believe proto is something like 1.04 now
range it doesnt start dropping efficacy until 1.3 m
also the percentage driop is much smaller before if you moved so much as 5m outside your range prof you list 70% of your damage
now your dealing half damage down to 33m..i think is at like 40 something efficacy at 22m
so dmg drop off lowered
base dmg raised
dmg multiplier raised
range profile raised. |
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Posted - 2014.06.28 23:02:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:It's not versatile, just devastating.
All other rifles balance the two, and all other weapons fulfil a specific role.
Nothing in this game ever made me feel so powerful as cutting through a proto squad in a single beam.
Flanking moves with that rifle win games.
yes yes i am the queen of flanking..lol and if you fire it into a dugout whee here are a bunch of people strafing around its like cutting tomatoes with a steak knife..
oft times when i down a heavy being repper by the logi behind him the logi is deathtouched as soon as the heavy is downed |
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Posted - 2014.06.28 23:11:00 -
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Egonz4 wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:the laser rifle
i barely ever see it..on the field unless its in my hands and whenever i stomp with it( pretty much everytime i use it) people are just flabergasted and amazed.
i get messages like
HOW DID YOU DO THAT 700 EHP GONE IN .01 SECS
hacker laser beam insta kill cheater
i have yet t see my favorite rifle making a comeback even though i have been spamming it relentlessly for the past month.
i never see anyone stomping with it but me.
personally i feel the weapon is a bit op..i can death touch a fully brick tanked amar heavy at 33 m
so anyways thoughts..is the majority opinion in the community that the laser rifle is up...has this event changed how people see my death beam?
is it being used more are people catching on the lr is a very VERY valid weapon again yet?
What's your fit?
i reg pull over 30 kills in my adv fit
my proto looks like this
amar assault ak.o
3 complex dmg mods
2 enh plates
2 complex armor reppers
1 ish guaged nano
1 flux nade
smg
viziam lr
my adv looks like this
elm 7 lr
2 enh dmg mods
1 basic plate
1 enh plate
1 comp repper
1 k2 nano
1 flux
smg
ps my adv fit still deathtouchs..i get accused of hacking on my adv fit. just day bef yesterday i stunned a skilled player by taking down all his shields and leaving him with 1 armor on his rr commando just because he touched my beam for .01 secs he said he had over 400 shields was cal commando...i rarely use my viziam because it is insanely strong and i dont believe in proto stomping scrubs unless its for an event |
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Posted - 2014.06.28 23:13:00 -
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Egonz4 wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:the laser rifle
i barely ever see it..on the field unless its in my hands and whenever i stomp with it( pretty much everytime i use it) people are just flabergasted and amazed.
i get messages like
HOW DID YOU DO THAT 700 EHP GONE IN .01 SECS
hacker laser beam insta kill cheater
i have yet t see my favorite rifle making a comeback even though i have been spamming it relentlessly for the past month.
i never see anyone stomping with it but me.
personally i feel the weapon is a bit op..i can death touch a fully brick tanked amar heavy at 33 m
so anyways thoughts..is the majority opinion in the community that the laser rifle is up...has this event changed how people see my death beam?
is it being used more are people catching on the lr is a very VERY valid weapon again yet?
What's your fit?
i dont have a hard time aiming it ill trace your head with it at 120m...but ide lik to note the way the lr works...you really only have to touch them..i dunno how aa effects lr..i run without |
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Posted - 2014.06.28 23:19:00 -
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Egonz4 wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Egonz4 wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:the laser rifle
i barely ever see it..on the field unless its in my hands and whenever i stomp with it( pretty much everytime i use it) people are just flabergasted and amazed.
i get messages like
HOW DID YOU DO THAT 700 EHP GONE IN .01 SECS
hacker laser beam insta kill cheater
i have yet t see my favorite rifle making a comeback even though i have been spamming it relentlessly for the past month.
i never see anyone stomping with it but me.
personally i feel the weapon is a bit op..i can death touch a fully brick tanked amar heavy at 33 m
so anyways thoughts..is the majority opinion in the community that the laser rifle is up...has this event changed how people see my death beam?
is it being used more are people catching on the lr is a very VERY valid weapon again yet?
What's your fit? i reg pull over 30 kills in my adv fit my proto looks like this amar assault ak.o 3 complex dmg mods 2 enh plates 2 complex armor reppers 1 ish guaged nano 1 flux nade smg viziam lr my adv looks like this elm 7 lr 2 enh dmg mods 1 basic plate 1 enh plate 1 comp repper 1 k2 nano 1 flux smg ps my adv fit still deathtouchs..i get accused of hacking on my adv fit. just day bef yesterday i stunned a skilled player by taking down all his shields and leaving him with 1 armor on his rr commando just because he touched my beam for .01 secs he said he had over 400 shields was cal commando...i rarely use my viziam because it is insanely strong and i dont believe in proto stomping scrubs unless its for an event Sweet I'm gonna have yo try it
a nice lil tip...
whenever you encounter a rr ona armor type suit...in your range profile...1 you should already be beside cover or your a scrub for not moving from cover to cover..
assuming you are not said scrub..look at you enemy non aiming duck behind cover and come out of it firing as in shoot your beam at your cover and strafe out of cover and focus on your enemy..also ide like to point i do not aim much..small tiny angle adjustments..i aim with my strafing when i run lr,,..if your running aa..when you come out of cover firing hit aim and it should pop and hold a tiny bit to your target..not cod style..but its helpfull if your trying to get used to it..this is the advice i give people who run in my lr squads
if your enemy is slightly to the right dont try and move the beam over with your arms..just strafe a lil bit to the right..this is how i headshot people from 100m away when they are barely visible behind cover..i strafe the beam to their head..as in ill fire and get as close as i can to where they are and then ill just back up a bit..and bam headshot |
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Posted - 2014.06.28 23:22:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:There's one or two more LRs around than you are giving credit for to be honest. I would say the mass driver is probably the least commonly seen weapon (barring this weekend for the event) its close though I think.
Now if we are talking sidearms as well, the ion pistol and flaylock pistol are pretty rare.
na im not including side arms only rifles...i dont count the md asa rifle |
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Posted - 2014.06.28 23:23:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Do you guys preheat your laser before hitting your target?
depends on the target and the amar suit your using
amar assault yes i preheat a preheated viziam ona amar assault in its last 20 rounds of firing will death touch most every suit in dust
commando no you fire it like any gun you wanna hit them from round 1
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.28 23:24:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:There's one or two more LRs around than you are giving credit for to be honest. I would say the mass driver is probably the least commonly seen weapon (barring this weekend for the event) its close though I think.
Now if we are talking sidearms as well, the ion pistol and flaylock pistol are pretty rare.
sadly i never see them..i hpe when i get on for this event i will have some truly miraculous lr vs lr duels |
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.06.28 23:31:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:There's one or two more LRs around than you are giving credit for to be honest. I would say the mass driver is probably the least commonly seen weapon (barring this weekend for the event) its close though I think.
Now if we are talking sidearms as well, the ion pistol and flaylock pistol are pretty rare. sadly i never see them..i hpe when i get on for this event i will have some truly miraculous lr vs lr duels Ha I would love to try out some LR duels with you but I'm busy trying to work the Forge at the minute. Maybe if I see you in a match i'l get the trusty LR out to have a little skirmish with, just go easy on me ehh ;-)
lol we will have to do it in fw.. and move off to the side so no one can interfere...if someone interrupts me having a lr vs lr duel in fw i can kill them thats why fw \
would be fun..im moving this week and next week is the fourth and ima amarrican so..ill be on for the thrid and fourth weekend and ill only be using lr so i look forward to the fights.
ps i will be in dom come get me guys..i am really looking forwards to it |
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Posted - 2014.06.28 23:42:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Do you guys preheat your laser before hitting your target? depends on the target and the amar suit your using amar assault yes i preheat a preheated viziam ona amar assault in its last 20 rounds of firing will death touch most every suit in dust commando no you fire it like any gun you wanna hit them from round 1 Morte again shows his knowledge. Pre-heating is a mechanism that is again situation ally effective. Sometimes I pre-heat will tear a suit apart and others its better to be applying damage throughout the duration of the lasers beam. Additionally the way you engage a foe depends on your suit type and as I use the Commando I like to be damaging them for most of the latter duration of my beam.
her knowledge her knowledge :) i really hope i see you running lr for the event true would make my day to duel you
running the amar assault that last 20 rounds can ammount to a few kills all on its own..for example your firing ona heavy you killed him you see a guy maybe 30m to his right still firing you swing your beam on him..(your now in your last rounds on the assault) the beam touchs him bam hes dead i almost always get a kill in the first 60 rounds of my beam and i always get a kill in the last 20..
at max ive squeezed 9 kills into a single beam post 1.7 |
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Posted - 2014.06.28 23:50:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I like the laser
Just don't like how far away I have to be from the action.
It's hillarious when I see scouts try to sneak up on me thinking they have the advantage and I pull out my six kin or bedlam...they're dead before they can even realize what happened XD
No one uses it because it actually requires skill/strategy. Almost all Amarr weapons are like that...except that unlike the scramblers you can't just spam the laser.
If I ever see someone deathtouch me with a laser I'd send them a million isk and say well done. That kinda **** takes skill to pull off (I'm fairly decent at it, still not used to how long to charge up beforehand)
I'll have to try your dual rep fit. I guess with the guaged nanos you can worry less about wasting ammo. Better strategy than I had. (I run alloteks and one rep since I never seem to run out of ammo and always end up stuck with low armor). But if you're constantly firing and killing everything you won't run into that problem lol
There's always that one person in the game that's the best with a specific weapon.
You just happen to be that person :P
yeah like i said i use my strafing for small aim adjustments with my lr. and im truly flattered but i hope im not the best with it.
death touch will be your last 20 rounds for almost all suits...cal scouts minnie scouts minnie assaults all can be deathtouched much earlier in you beams firing time
ive deathtouched a cal scout at round 40 out of 80 at round 60 i got jumped by 3 scouts running 2 running rifles 1 running shotty..i spun in a circle completely reactively i did not mean to do this but i death touched all three of them the closest was 15 m away
even in cqc the lr when its cooking is doing over 300 dmg a sec.
i dont have my ps3 or the info or patience to do the math on the lr. but maybe someone can the efficacy has made death touch possible from 22m-120m |
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Posted - 2014.06.28 23:58:00 -
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lols shayz the lr was practically made for my glacoma riddled eyes so much easier for me to aim with..i think its because i can focus on the beam not the sights |
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:10:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:True Adamance wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Do you guys preheat your laser before hitting your target? depends on the target and the amar suit your using amar assault yes i preheat a preheated viziam ona amar assault in its last 20 rounds of firing will death touch most every suit in dust commando no you fire it like any gun you wanna hit them from round 1 Morte again shows his knowledge. Pre-heating is a mechanism that is again situation ally effective. Sometimes I pre-heat will tear a suit apart and others its better to be applying damage throughout the duration of the lasers beam. Additionally the way you engage a foe depends on your suit type and as I use the Commando I like to be damaging them for most of the latter duration of my beam. her knowledge her knowledge :) i really hope i see you running lr for the event true would make my day to duel you running the amar assault that last 20 rounds can ammount to a few kills all on its own..for example your firing ona heavy you killed him you see a guy maybe 30m to his right still firing you swing your beam on him..(your now in your last rounds on the assault) the beam touchs him bam hes dead i almost always get a kill in the first 60 rounds of my beam and i always get a kill in the last 20.. at max ive squeezed 9 kills into a single beam post 1.7 Sorry I haven't squadded with you either before....or in a long time so I guess I couldn't have known. Eitherway I will be on one weekend, this one however is for relaxation since its the end of the month and work is insanely stressful in the office. If I do compete it will be in weekend 2 or 3 since 4 will be around when the Destiny Beta starts......and so far Destiny looks very pretty.
cool we have the exact same thought on whe we r competing ill see you in weekend 3 |
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:36:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I would use it, however I always find myself attracted right into the heat of the battle.
I am not accustomed to sitting 70m+ away from the battlefield.
Whenever I run my laser fit I always find myself just using my SMG most of the time.
yeah see im a skirter i skirt the edge of battlefields.. |
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Posted - 2014.06.29 00:52:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:You managed to get me with your LR one match while I was fighting another fellow so I pulled out my templar laser on my templar assault and found a nice rock. I started getting you to laz me, then as soon as you hit the 25% of my shields I'd duck behind cover, then to the other side, then back. I was doing my best to run down your ammo, but you got killed by some random rr T.T
yeah sadly there is no 1v1 duel mode in dust sighs |
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Posted - 2014.06.29 01:27:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Damage mods+LR=****
It seems they multiply damage exponentially
as far as i am aware dmg mods effect the base dmg stat only not the multiplier..so not much of a difference |
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Posted - 2014.06.29 02:00:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I was going to use the LR (my favourite weapons at the moment are the other two Amarr weapons) but I can't really be bothered learning the overheat anymore :(
not that much to learn lol it over heats after 80 rounds fired to an amarrian ona assault 60 to anyone else |
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Posted - 2014.06.29 09:40:00 -
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Scout Hunter II wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:the laser rifle
i barely ever see it..on the field unless its in my hands and whenever i stomp with it( pretty much everytime i use it) people are just flabergasted and amazed.
i get messages like
HOW DID YOU DO THAT 700 EHP GONE IN .01 SECS
hacker laser beam insta kill cheater
i have yet t see my favorite rifle making a comeback even though i have been spamming it relentlessly for the past month.
i never see anyone stomping with it but me.
personally i feel the weapon is a bit op..i can death touch a fully brick tanked amar heavy at 33 m
so anyways thoughts..is the majority opinion in the community that the laser rifle is up...has this event changed how people see my death beam?
is it being used more are people catching on the lr is a very VERY valid weapon again yet?
If you truly found something OP, i doubt you would be sharing it with people. This post in more of a "hey look at me, im more talented than the rest of you".
actually i am one of the few people in dust that always reports op **** then i spam it relentlessly until ccp nerfs it.
examples forge
swarms
tanks
laser rifle in chromosome
my own logi
so yeah...
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Posted - 2014.06.29 09:41:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:I was going to use the LR (my favourite weapons at the moment are the other two Amarr weapons) but I can't really be bothered learning the overheat anymore :( not that much to learn lol it over heats after 80 rounds fired to an amarrian ona assault 60 to anyone else Just takes some getting used to to be able to unconsciously know when to let go of the trigger. I'm much better than when I started, but I can still improve. I can now let go of the trigger about 10-15 rounds before I overheat without ever looking at my heat meter, but sometimes I let go just as I'm overheating, so there's still room for improvement. I like to have at least 10 rounds to overheat before I let go. On my Amarr assault, that's 70 rounds of worry-free firing, can't imagine using the laser rifle on any other suit, as 50 rounds don't do as much. Gallente sentinels take between 50 and 70 rounds to kill 
you can tighten that space up a lil bit..i generally let off a few rounds from overheating..like 5 |
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Posted - 2014.06.29 10:57:00 -
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Schecter 666 wrote:Mortedeamor wrote: smug smug smug im so dam good with this weapon why does everyone else suck with it?
lol a valid question but not one that i would ask...doesnt sound like me at all.
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Posted - 2014.06.29 11:20:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Schecter 666 wrote:Mortedeamor wrote: smug smug smug im so dam good with this weapon why does everyone else suck with it?
dude mort should be smug . One of the few people I avoid when facing and they have a lazer rifle in hand . I pretty sure mort even stopped me in my tracks when I was on a proto balac stomp with vizam lazer rifle and If i remember correctly mort was the only one to take me down .
blushes hard core ..seriously i cant handle this kinda flattery lol
i really wasnt trying to be smug though dude..i am just trying to see how the general opinion of my favorite weapon is changing... |
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Posted - 2014.06.29 11:57:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Never spoken to you Mort but iv come across you literally hundreds of times since beta.
o7 mate.
really was the experience good or bad..im pretty scubby for a veteran player |
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Posted - 2014.06.30 04:41:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Schecter 666 wrote:Mortedeamor wrote: smug smug smug im so dam good with this weapon why does everyone else suck with it?
dude mort should be smug . One of the few people I avoid when facing and they have a lazer rifle in hand . I pretty sure mort even stopped me in my tracks when I was on a proto balac stomp with vizam lazer rifle and If i remember correctly mort was the only one to take me down .
you know peggy i actually remember that it was pre 1.7 i believe (again im pretty sure im the only merc in dust that never laid the lr down)
you were stomping around on the mushroom map...i didnt get you though you escaped with your balochs and swapped out at the supply depot you sneaky lil bastard :) (nah u know i love ya peggy) |
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Posted - 2014.06.30 06:55:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:
(again im pretty sure im the only merc in dust that never laid the lr down)
No one in PIE Inc ever laid the Laser to rest.....
so your saying that every person in pie has run the laser as there main weapon and assault for all of dust.
because i am saying that i dont even use scramblers...i only use lr...i run it on my assault and my logi and my commando..it is without a doubt my NUMBER 1 weapons..i dont believe you in the statement that everyone in pie uses lr as theyre number 1 weapon..because i would be getting more lr vs lr duels if they did
and if they do..dudes come que sync me i will fight for minmatar vs amarr..just for a chance to take on pies laser rifle users |
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Posted - 2014.07.02 04:00:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:True Adamance wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:
(again im pretty sure im the only merc in dust that never laid the lr down)
No one in PIE Inc ever laid the Laser to rest..... so your saying that every person in pie has run the laser as there main weapon and assault for all of dust. because i am saying that i dont even use scramblers...i only use lr...i run it on my assault and my logi and my commando..it is without a doubt my NUMBER 1 weapons..i dont believe you in the statement that everyone in pie uses lr as theyre number 1 weapon..because i would be getting more lr vs lr duels if they did and if they do..dudes come que sync me i will fight for minmatar vs amarr..just for a chance to take on pies laser rifle users I've mained Amarr Assault since Uprising and used the Laser in Chromo. Aero did as well. Maikyl is older than both of us and has been using the Laser since his toon was born. T12 does the same, Arrach does the same, Malleus is an Amarr alt, he does this, Aisha used Lasers, Humble Seeker uses lasers. You never said primary weapon, only that players laid it to rest. I never did and its been in my rotation since Chromo, alongside tanks since Uprising 1.2. I don't play pubs, I don't play PC, only FW and only for Amarr.
i dont play fw..it has extremely long que times that i dont have the patience for and no incentive for me at least to play ..i do like pc.. |
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Posted - 2014.07.02 04:06:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:TBH Ive only ever seen you leave battles half way through and the only time i remember fighting you is you in a sentinel so I have no opinion on your skill with the LR, Levithunder and Aero gave me some trouble with the laser couple days ago though but i managed to counter with my ScR.
but I agree with your aiming style as it is identical to my style as well; strafe to aim.
tbh i have rage issue when i squad with people its well known..i believe teamwork is op and i have a hard time running with people that i do not work well with as a team or do not work well with me as a team.
i also have a hard time maintaining a solo mindset when running with people..as a major logi junky aver and tanker...supporting my team is like second nature to me..
ive for the most part given up on finding this kind of teamwork..and run solo now..its allot more fun..
although recently i have found a small group of people i like squadding with a majority of if not all the time. and my losses do not increase to a point that i cannot accept..at least not yet.
but dont worry for this event ill be running alone..and i really hope we bump into each other so i can change your mind about me..i do not run away.
sometimes i give up on my team.
on cqc maps of course youll see me with my sentinel..or my logi they are both suited |
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Posted - 2014.07.02 04:07:00 -
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as nice as role playing is i need actual in game incentive to participate in a game mode that causes me loss's until ccp provide such..fw will never be for me |
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Posted - 2014.07.02 04:33:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Lasers are way to situational and compared to Rail Rifle not really a choice. The laser rifle looses damage at close range while the rail rifle still deals full damage up close. So why should i use a weapon which has a huge disadvantage? Its not just that if you dont run a amarr assault the gun barely works properly. So you have to overspecialise to make it actually worthwhile using. While on the other hand i could just grab any other suit, put a rail rifle on it and be effective even with very little SP. Oh and armor tanking is very popular which makes the gun even less effective. Why are you getting in range..... I don't think you understand the premise of Amarrian warfare.
the fact that the caldari rr is still a nub crutch doesnt mean the lr isnt worth running yes it takes more skill because its not broken
rr is boring and easy to use and i feel in need of another nerf just by what you just said...but then i never seem to have a hard time slaughtering rr users..with my amar style...so ...i dunno.
lr is way more fun to use ..i dont see how people like you can enjoy stomping with such and easy weapon..havnt you gotten bored yet? ..i couldnt even take the time to spec into it because it was so boring lol |
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Posted - 2014.07.02 04:49:00 -
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swag counts for allot dust for me is officially about enjoyment i enjoy the laser and can stomp with it...rr is boring and op lol way overly situation and doesnt make you have to specialize to slaughter at all...entirely to boring for an amarrian..combat rifle to for that matter..they can be put on anysuit in dust and stomped with..i think thats a fault . if all racial variants followed the amar assault in this fashion assaults would have a clear and obvious niche
i think they should nerf the rr and cr and change the assault suits in some way to make them compliment them in a way that promotes specialized slaying like the amar assault does. |
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:21:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:swag counts for allot dust for me is officially about enjoyment i enjoy the laser and can stomp with it...rr is boring and op lol way overly situation and doesnt make you have to specialize to slaughter at all...entirely to boring for an amarrian..combat rifle to for that matter..they can be put on anysuit in dust and stomped with..i think thats a fault . if all racial variants followed the amar assault in this fashion assaults would have a clear and obvious niche
i think they should nerf the rr and cr and change the assault suits in some way to make them compliment them in a way that promotes specialized slaying like the amar assault does. I can definitely get behind this. The Amarr Assault is truly the best designed Weapons System in Dust, the ScR as well as LR are augmented so exponentially on this suit its a thing of beauty. I always shake my head when I see other Amarr Assaults with RRs or CRs, it's absolutely stupid to not fit a ScR or LR on it. If all the other suits were designed this way we would have such a diverse battlefield, or maybe just everyone in the same suit with the CR cause it's the only weapon ever used in PC ever. Heck I use it.
maybe..everyone would be in the same suit..but i feel like this is how ccp should go about bringing balance to the rifles and bringing purpose to the assaults...the scr and lr clearly shine and perform above and beyond when coupled with the amar assault..
i feel like if they tryed to..make the other assault have a similar effect when coupled with they're racial rifles..they could easier bring balance.
right now we have one assault thats a specialization suit..
amar armor and lasers
then we have these general assault suits..that while they are better than the basic racial frames...they might as well be basic..they do not enhance the assault aspect
general assaults
and we have an amor assault suit..in the galente
the shield in the caldari and the speed in the minnie
now if they made them all specialization suits...suits like logi and scouts and heavies would have a clear disadvantage when running rifles...
right now anysuit using a scr and lr not ona amar assault..is at a clear disadvantage when facing the amar assault..with the ONLY exception being amar commando..and then they both just work better differently
i want the same to be said for the other rifle variants..
i think ccp should figure out where they want the rr and cr/...and then they should nerf them beyond that point and give they're racial suits..bonus's that bring them back up to where they want them to be. ..this also will put the other racial types in the same place vs they're assault version as the amar. in the sense that no suit will be as baddass witha rifle as the assault AS IT SHOULD BE.
the ar should shine above and beyond on the gal assault and gal commando
the scr and lr should and do shine on the amar variants
the rr ?anysuit doesnt matter
the cr? anysuit doesnt matter
sure you will still be able to kill with rr and cr..but it will be like when my logi uses the lr vs my assault...a few deaths vs's a slaying stream..(assault)
all ccp needs to do to fix the assaults is model them after the amarrians. our empress in all her glory may she live forever foresaw that without a bonus directly effecting the performance of the racial weapon..being applied to our assaults..they would become obsolete.
none of the assault variants feel like pure slaying fits meant for killing not like the amar scr or amar lr assaults.
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Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:24:00 -
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1st Lieutenant Tiberius wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:ive for the most part given up on finding this kind of teamwork. Come find me and we'll squad up, I'll prove you wrong.
i shall..i only really have one channel anymore..anime empire,..sometimes i try and drag some heavies to repp off of heavy logi funzone..but..uh yeah..i miss chromosome..the community is so broken now |
Mortedeamor
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:40:00 -
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lunatis orrak wrote:Mortedeamor wrote:the laser rifle
i barely ever see it..on the field unless its in my hands and whenever i stomp with it( pretty much everytime i use it) people are just flabergasted and amazed.
i get messages like
HOW DID YOU DO THAT 700 EHP GONE IN .01 SECS
hacker laser beam insta kill cheater
i have yet t see my favorite rifle making a comeback even though i have been spamming it relentlessly for the past month.
i never see anyone stomping with it but me.
personally i feel the weapon is a bit op..i can death touch a fully brick tanked amar heavy at 33 m
so anyways thoughts..is the majority opinion in the community that the laser rifle is up...has this event changed how people see my death beam?
is it being used more are people catching on the lr is a very VERY valid weapon again yet?
Personally i don't care for the feel of the aim. I tend to turn my sensitivity way down to keep the bead on people then again i keep it turned way up for cr use.
i dont have to do this because i incorporate allot of my strafing into my aiming ..try using your strafe game for slight aim adjustments |
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