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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.06.25 09:15:00 -
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I was reading a thread about CalScouts being OP (which it is) in Feedback and Requests, and I stumbled upon this gem.
Not sure what I'd propose for Gal and Cal instead, but it's a really nice idea!
shaman oga wrote:None of the scouts should have bonus on EW.
EW is simply to powerful and should be influenced only by your fittings, all scouts should have the same EW capabilities.
Caldari > better at precision
Gallente/Amarr > better at dampening
Minmatar > good at both, but not the king
Only the slot layout should suggest your playstyle, that is the only way to balance scouts imo.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.06.25 10:12:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:It's been said a hundred times and it is still true. The best way to balance scouts is to buff assault suits.
Then all these poser brick tanked assault wanna be scouts will fade away. Leave us true scouts alone.
This isn't about assaults, or scout v everyone else.
This specifically is about intra-scout balance. Clearly Amarr and Minmatar scouts are considers underpowered right now, and Caldari and Gallente the reverse. Clearly there's a lot of agreement that the Caldari Scout bonus is very strong, and that the Gallente Scout bonus was reduced speaks volumes for it also.
I agree with shaman oga that making scouts as a whole be good at EWAR with slot layouts defining which scout is better at which form, is far and away the most sensible route.
As far as bricked scouts is concerned, I don't see so many of those around these days; Gal scouts rarely top out over 500 EHP recently in my experience. I think scouts are pretty okay at the moment vs the other frames (generally speaking). They just need some work internally.
Assault buffing is more to do with scout + heavy balance more than each individually.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.06.25 11:55:00 -
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rithu wrote:If the bonuses are removed from scouts ,then no suits must have bonuses. Else, the assaults (with more slots) will be better than scout at its work.
Yes.
I'm suggesting that scouts get zero bonuses.
L2READ
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.06.25 12:51:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Or you know...
make it so that they only get the bonus if they use the module...LIKE EVERY OTHER SUIT BONUS
(i.e. a efficacy bonus)
Then you give minmatar a reduction to pg cost of sprint mods (and/or an efficacy bonus)
And finally make the Amarr scout a pistol master by either increasing ammo cap or just giving it a damage bonus...
I dislike the logistics bonuses enough.
Forcing a suit to use a particular module is just not something I'm a fan of.
On top of that, it still marginalises the Minmatar and Amarr scouts in an EWAR sense; they're still incapable of competing.
My opinion is that the EWAR bonuses should be minimal at best, like the GalScout's range amplification bonus.
This would hopefully be enough to allow that suit to be better than others for EWAR, but not the only option.
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AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5
CalLogi, you're next!
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