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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.06.25 05:19:00 -
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Except Caldari scout's passive scans, and maybe AV against dropships, and Jihad LAVs.
Everything else has already been fixed and doesn't need to be nerfed because nothing is OP except the Calamari.
Your focus should not be on QQ about things that you want nerfed because you're bad at engaging them.
It should be on buffing the weak things that are unfairly underpowered like Assault and Minmatar/Amarr Scouts. |
I-Shayz-I
I----------I
3773
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Posted - 2014.06.25 05:57:00 -
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I just hate the fact that heavies on the other team always know where the heck I am because of passive scans being shared in the squad.
So it requires me to run with caldari scouts in order to actually counter the enemy heavies -_-
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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2014.06.25 06:03:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I just hate the fact that heavies on the other team always know where the heck I am because of passive scans being shared in the squad.
So it requires me to run with caldari scouts in order to actually counter the enemy heavies -_-
no love for my Gallogi I guess... |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
14832
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Posted - 2014.06.25 06:06:00 -
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It's hard to be afraid of virtual things in a game you don't play anymore.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Polka will never die.
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Spectre-M
The Generals
552
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Posted - 2014.06.25 06:16:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It's hard to be afraid of virtual things in a game you don't play anymore.
InB4 can I has ISK?
Minnmitar in Amarr armor.
A Wolf in Sheeps clothing.
May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone Caldari State
11
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Posted - 2014.06.25 06:21:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It's hard to be afraid of virtual things in a game you don't play anymore.
i get to feeling like that
then i log on the game again, and am pulled into squads and just get addicted again |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11155
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Posted - 2014.06.25 06:46:00 -
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OP FOTM wrote:Except Caldari scout's passive scans, and maybe AV against dropships, and Jihad LAVs.
Everything else has already been fixed and doesn't need to be nerfed because nothing is OP except the Calamari.
Your focus should not be on QQ about things that you want nerfed because you're bad at engaging them.
It should be on buffing the weak things that are unfairly underpowered like Assault and Minmatar/Amarr Scouts.
I'm paranoid and terrified of almost everything!
" Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well."
-Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
14837
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Posted - 2014.06.25 07:01:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: I'm paranoid and terrified of almost everything!
He said skilled players, True.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Polka will never die.
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Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1452
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Posted - 2014.06.25 07:03:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote: I'm paranoid and terrified of almost everything!
He said skilled players, True. Shots fired!
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Tectonic Fusion
1773
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Posted - 2014.06.25 07:06:00 -
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Shared squad vision* And yes an ewar 2 complex range and 4 complex precision with a rail rifle is pretty good on a cal scout with squad vision.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3775
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Posted - 2014.06.25 07:12:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote: I'm paranoid and terrified of almost everything!
He said skilled players, True.
OOOHH SICK BURN
CCP Rattati Best Dev
AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5
CalLogi, you're next!
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
6169
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Posted - 2014.06.25 07:20:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote: I'm paranoid and terrified of almost everything!
He said skilled players, True. This message has been Sgt Kirk approved.
This Federation is now at war. We have no time for dissenters
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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2014.06.25 07:45:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:OP FOTM wrote:Except Caldari scout's passive scans, and maybe AV against dropships, and Jihad LAVs.
Everything else has already been fixed and doesn't need to be nerfed because nothing is OP except the Calamari.
Your focus should not be on QQ about things that you want nerfed because you're bad at engaging them.
It should be on buffing the weak things that are unfairly underpowered like Assault and Minmatar/Amarr Scouts. I'm paranoid and terrified of almost everything!
You should be. When Minjas get buffed I'll nova knife your goddamn tank |
Baal Omniscient
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
1800
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Posted - 2014.06.25 07:47:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote: I'm paranoid and terrified of almost everything!
He said skilled players, True. Shots fired! Senzu Bean!
(Sorry True, first chance I've had to use that clip....)
PSN ID: AlbelNox2569
Cross Atu for CPM1
Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11162
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Posted - 2014.06.25 07:55:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote: I'm paranoid and terrified of almost everything!
He said skilled players, True.
Still better than you Arkena
" Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well."
-Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3775
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Posted - 2014.06.25 08:44:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote: I'm paranoid and terrified of almost everything!
He said skilled players, True. Still better than you Arkena
LOL
CCP Rattati Best Dev
AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5
CalLogi, you're next!
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
308
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Posted - 2014.06.25 08:47:00 -
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Shared passive si op not the cal scout. My opinion, way less tank better vision.
Lonewolf till I die
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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone Caldari State
17
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Posted - 2014.06.25 08:56:00 -
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HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Shared passive si op not the cal scout. My opinion, way less tank better vision.
No. It renders Minmatar and Amarr scouts useless. |
Lynn Beck
NoGameNoLife
1918
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Posted - 2014.06.25 08:58:00 -
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Only thing that makes me go 'oh ****, can't spam Swarm launchers now...' Is Caldari Scouts. But that's only due to them being immune(read: 75% resistant) to Combat Rifles in many instances.
That, or the fact that they seem to just 'know' when their hit detection is working, and then run 450 shield calscouts...(my Min Assault can barely hit 560... Yet they have double my regen, better speed, innate scans, innate dampening, and insane shield delays.) a Calscout is 95% better than a Minmatar Assault.
General John Ripper
-BAM! I'm Emeril Lagasse.
This message was approved by the 'Nobody Loved You' Foundation
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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone Caldari State
19
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Posted - 2014.06.25 09:01:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Only thing that makes me go 'oh ****, can't spam Swarm launchers now...' Is Caldari Scouts. But that's only due to them being immune(read: 75% resistant) to Combat Rifles in many instances.
That, or the fact that they seem to just 'know' when their hit detection is working, and then run 450 shield calscouts...(my Min Assault can barely hit 560... Yet they have double my regen, better speed, innate scans, innate dampening, and insane shield delays.) a Calscout is 95% better than a Minmatar Assault.
go help me out in my features and ideas discussion thread because I am done feeding the trolls for tonight |
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HOWDIDHEKILLME
Dying to Reload
309
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Posted - 2014.06.25 09:18:00 -
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OP FOTM wrote:HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote:Shared passive si op not the cal scout. My opinion, way less tank better vision. No. It renders Minmatar and Amarr scouts useless.
Unless you run 3 ( amarr can run 4 )complex damps and a proto cloak... Btw the cal scout only has 130 shield and 70 armor with your proposed 4 comp 2 range setup, takein all light weapons about .6 seconds or less to kill. Again it's shared vision that's b.s.
Lonewolf till I die
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Izlare Lenix
BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Dark Taboo
721
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Posted - 2014.06.25 11:29:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I just hate the fact that heavies on the other team always know where the heck I am because of passive scans being shared in the squad.
So it requires me to run with caldari scouts in order to actually counter the enemy heavies -_-
And how is this different from the 360 perma scans we used to deal with? Oh yeah, the cal scout has 1/3 the range.
Also to maximize a cal scout you have to sacrifice high and low slots, unlike slayer logis in days past that just threw a scanner on a triple damage modded 1,000 hp suit.
360 scanning slayer logis were so much more OP than anything in the game now.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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Izlare Lenix
BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Dark Taboo
721
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Posted - 2014.06.25 11:35:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Only thing that makes me go 'oh ****, can't spam Swarm launchers now...' Is Caldari Scouts. But that's only due to them being immune(read: 75% resistant) to Combat Rifles in many instances.
That, or the fact that they seem to just 'know' when their hit detection is working, and then run 450 shield calscouts...(my Min Assault can barely hit 560... Yet they have double my regen, better speed, innate scans, innate dampening, and insane shield delays.) a Calscout is 95% better than a Minmatar Assault.
Use a lazor rifle, ScR, AScR, AR or flux and many of your cal scout issues will be solved. It amazes me how many people refuse to put down their CR or RR yet still complain they can't kill cal scouts. Adapt or die idiots.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
14846
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Posted - 2014.06.25 11:43:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote: I'm paranoid and terrified of almost everything!
He said skilled players, True. Still better than you Arkena
At dying? Yeah, probably.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Polka will never die.
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
600
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Posted - 2014.06.25 11:53:00 -
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I'm scared of good mass driver users, not many of them roaming New Eden anymore. |
Clone D
468
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Posted - 2014.06.25 12:31:00 -
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I disagree. Fear is based on a sympathetic nervous system response which is a subconscious mechanism.
I have never been afraid of anything in this game. Initially, I was super pissed off because I didn't know what the hell was going on, where that shot came from, what was that thunderous beam coming down out of the sky, how was I supposed to get anything done with snipers taking me out every time I run between cover, why I took so much damage falling off of a 1 story building, etc.
There will always be surprising deaths in this game, and it was shortly after I started playing that I learned sometimes you can't to a damn thing about it.
I can see why the immense frustrations and obstacles would lead to a state of paranoia or exacerbated fear levels or even PTSD. For me, I simply developed an attitude of nonchalance which gets me killed more often, but who cares.
Unless you are talking about being scared as a synonym for avoiding certain situations. In which case, I would respond that everything in the game has some weakness and that the player would do well to avoid those situations if they want to live. There is something to be said for using your brain, staying out of trouble and leveraging your strengths.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
11193
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Posted - 2014.06.25 12:37:00 -
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"Nothing is OP except what I think is OP" LOL
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
6172
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:07:00 -
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Clone D wrote:I disagree. Fear is based on a sympathetic nervous system response which is a subconscious mechanism.
I have never been afraid of anything in this game. Initially, I was super pissed off because I didn't know what the hell was going on, where that shot came from, what was that thunderous beam coming down out of the sky, how was I supposed to get anything done with snipers taking me out every time I run between cover, why I took so much damage falling off of a 1 story building, etc.
There will always be surprising deaths in this game, and it was shortly after I started playing that I learned sometimes you can't to a damn thing about it.
I can see why the immense frustrations and obstacles would lead to a state of paranoia or exacerbated fear levels or even PTSD. For me, I simply developed an attitude of nonchalance which gets me killed more often, but who cares.
Unless you are talking about being scared as a synonym for avoiding certain situations. In which case, I would respond that everything in the game has some weakness and that the player would do well to avoid those situations if they want to live. There is something to be said for using your brain, staying out of trouble and leveraging your strengths. Dear god you're a boring sort aren't you?
This Federation is now at war. We have no time for dissenters
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
3553
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:14:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Only thing that makes me go 'oh ****, can't spam Swarm launchers now...' Is Caldari Scouts. But that's only due to them being immune(read: 75% resistant) to Combat Rifles in many instances.
That, or the fact that they seem to just 'know' when their hit detection is working, and then run 450 shield calscouts...(my Min Assault can barely hit 560... Yet they have double my regen, better speed, innate scans, innate dampening, and insane shield delays.) a Calscout is 95% better than a Minmatar Assault. Use a lazor rifle, ScR, AScR, AR, SG or flux and many of your cal scout issues will be solved. It amazes me how many people refuse to put down their CR or RR yet still complain they can't kill cal scouts. 4 out of 6 rifles are shield bonused yet so many players refuse to put down the armor bonused guns. Adapt or die idiots.
That is crazy talk right there. How can you expect people to play without a RR on their basic heavy frame?
I'm also pretty sure the Gallente scout is limited to only fitting shotguns and CR's. It's an odd mechanic, but, you know, CCP...
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
3553
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:20:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Clone D wrote:I disagree. Fear is based on a sympathetic nervous system response which is a subconscious mechanism.
I have never been afraid of anything in this game. Initially, I was super pissed off because I didn't know what the hell was going on, where that shot came from, what was that thunderous beam coming down out of the sky, how was I supposed to get anything done with snipers taking me out every time I run between cover, why I took so much damage falling off of a 1 story building, etc.
There will always be surprising deaths in this game, and it was shortly after I started playing that I learned sometimes you can't to a damn thing about it.
I can see why the immense frustrations and obstacles would lead to a state of paranoia or exacerbated fear levels or even PTSD. For me, I simply developed an attitude of nonchalance which gets me killed more often, but who cares.
Unless you are talking about being scared as a synonym for avoiding certain situations. In which case, I would respond that everything in the game has some weakness and that the player would do well to avoid those situations if they want to live. There is something to be said for using your brain, staying out of trouble and leveraging your strengths. Dear god you're a boring sort aren't you?
He also has it backwards, but I think anxiety is a better term for what you feel playing video games (except maybe silent hill I guess) anyway.
He does have an (overly long) point though, random sh!t is always going to kill you in Dust, best not to stress about it overmuch. It is just a game.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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Cavani1EE7
The Rainbow Effect
110
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Posted - 2014.06.25 13:30:00 -
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I'm afraid of needles...
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IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn
549
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:17:00 -
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Cavani1EE7 wrote:I'm afraid of needles...
I take it you don't like to be revived.
o7
"We're in the spirit world now Billy...is that a chicken?" - Young Guns.
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Denak Kalamari
1592
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:26:00 -
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I'm OP?
Well, this is quite flattering.
Everything Denak did, good or bad, he did with sincerity until his death. Farewell.
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5394
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:49:00 -
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I'm not afraid of jihad LAVs or caldari scouts
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Aramis Madrigal
SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad.
260
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:04:00 -
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The passive scanning caldari scout build is squishy and has a hard counter in the properly damped gal scout. It is difficult to make the case that something is OP if it has a reasonable counter, particularly when it is a suit that is fairly popular. Moreover, the passive scanning caldari scout has a soft counter in the form of AOE. Shared passive scans are very powerful when used properly, but they make for an interesting game play dynamic.
-Aramis |
hold that
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
130
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:32:00 -
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you no scare i no scare |
Mike De Luca
Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State
117
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:58:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:True Adamance wrote: I'm paranoid and terrified of almost everything!
He said skilled players, True. Shots fired! Senzu Bean!(Sorry True, first chance I've had to use that clip....) I wish I could like this more...
what i think of when charging fg
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Yeeeuuuupppp
381
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Posted - 2014.06.25 16:08:00 -
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I'm scared of plasma cannons when I use mY fat suit
Rage Proficiency V
Mic status: Muted
Storage Wars Champion.
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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone Caldari State
33
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Posted - 2014.06.25 17:41:00 -
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Aramis Madrigal wrote:The passive scanning caldari scout build is squishy and has a hard counter in the properly damped gal scout. It is difficult to make the case that something is OP if it has a reasonable counter, particularly when it is a suit that is fairly popular. Moreover, the passive scanning caldari scout has a soft counter in the form of AOE. Shared passive scans are very powerful when used properly, but they make for an interesting game play dynamic.
-Aramis
I barely even want to bump this thread because apparently all you Calamari scum have decided to troll it
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
14860
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Posted - 2014.06.25 17:43:00 -
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OP FOTM wrote:
But what the hell is AOE?
Area of Effect.
A mass driver, for example, will do damage over an area rather than at a precise point.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Polka will never die.
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axINVICTUSxa
DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION
137
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Posted - 2014.06.25 17:53:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Only thing that makes me go 'oh ****, can't spam Swarm launchers now...' Is Caldari Scouts. But that's only due to them being immune(read: 75% resistant) to Combat Rifles in many instances.
That, or the fact that they seem to just 'know' when their hit detection is working, and then run 450 shield calscouts...(my Min Assault can barely hit 560... Yet they have double my regen, better speed, innate scans, innate dampening, and insane shield delays.) a Calscout is 95% better than a Minmatar Assault. Use a lazor rifle, ScR, AScR, AR, SG or flux and many of your cal scout issues will be solved. It amazes me how many people refuse to put down their CR or RR yet still complain they can't kill cal scouts. 4 out of 6 rifles are shield bonused yet so many players refuse to put down the armor bonused guns. Adapt or die idiots.
exactly. Bravo monsieur
I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone Caldari State
36
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Posted - 2014.06.25 17:55:00 -
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Well, the thing is you'd have to use a Tac AR especially now that they nerfed the range, if you wanted to counter a Calamari without being scanned first.
I don't really have the time or patience to skill into the lasers when I already have a plasma rifle. |
IVIaster LUKE
Shadow Company HQ Lokun Listamenn
552
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Posted - 2014.06.25 18:03:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:
Area of Effect.
A mass driver, for example, will do damage over an area rather than at a precise point.
You just described my ex-wife perfectly.
"We're in the spirit world now Billy...is that a chicken?" - Young Guns.
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
3557
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Posted - 2014.06.25 23:06:00 -
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OP FOTM wrote:Well, the thing is you'd have to use a Tac AR especially now that they nerfed the range, if you wanted to counter a Calamari without being scanned first.
I don't really have the time or patience to skill into the lasers when I already have a plasma rifle.
Well there's your problem.
I'll just leave this here.
(The godfather of tactical logistics)
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TEBOW BAGGINS
Defenders of the Helghast Dream Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
1053
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Posted - 2014.06.25 23:42:00 -
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dropshipping is a challenge again. it had become kinda dull.
AKA Zirzo Valcyn
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
82
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Posted - 2014.06.26 00:26:00 -
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Where have you been? I hope you keep this up OP. They need to know. |
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