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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.22 23:35:00 -
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Ok CCP, it looks to me that it HAS to be obvious that we want our vehicle variants back. Marauders, Enforcers, logi LAVs and DS, scout LAVs, etc. This is the thread to get your attention. No one I've met has said no to having them back. This is the petition for getting them back. If you agree with having our variants back and making vehicles on the battlefield unique again, sign below and give your reason for wanting them back. I have a few myself.
#1. Makes the difference between a 20 mill SP tanker and a 0 SP tanker much better.
#2. Makes vehicle usage non-boring, i mean really. How many vehicle fittings are out there that are actually viable? Everyone uses the exact same stuff. At least this will give us a little bit of variety in fittings by having more slots to use.
#3. Makes balancing AV vs. Tanks much easier. Pro AV vs. The better hulls with proto modules, adv AV for the better hulls with basic mods or basic tanks with proto mods, basic AV for basic hulls with basic mods, etc.
#4. Gives a reason to nerf mlt vehicles into the ground. With more than two types of hulls, we can actually make mlt mlt instead of being std with one less slot.
Please guys, lets get our vehicles back. Even you infantry guys, help us out. Imagine if you had at most three different types of suits for use. It would suck wouldn't it?
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.22 23:38:00 -
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This could also be combined with the re-introduction of vehicle mods. Heat sinks, chassis, Rechargers, supplemental stuff etc. CCP said all of this would return months ago, never heard anything since
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.22 23:51:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I believe their removal was about rethinking vehicle roles, obviously black ops HAVs, marauders, and enforcers weren't working as intended, so they were all removed in turn.
I never saw a black ops HAV in the field (probably because they cost an arm, a leg, and several fucktons of SP), and enforcers were declared useless by the community.
Yes, this is true. But, that doesn't mean that in the past 6 months they couldn't of thought of more uses for them. Enforcers- high damage, lower survivability. Marauders- low damage, high survivability. Why not?
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.22 23:56:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I believe their removal was about rethinking vehicle roles, obviously black ops HAVs, marauders, and enforcers weren't working as intended, so they were all removed in turn.
I never saw a black ops HAV in the field (probably because they cost an arm, a leg, and several fucktons of SP), and enforcers were declared useless by the community. Would you rather have 3 kinds of specialised tanks or one.......
This.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
36
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Posted - 2014.06.23 00:03:00 -
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Alright so come on guys, tell anyone you know who agrees with this to sign this petition. CCP needs to see this.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
36
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Posted - 2014.06.23 00:15:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I say no because what's the use when they will just be complained about and nerfed into nothing anyway by the community?
Again, another situation where community cried nerf and then changes their mind later on, completely forgetting that they brought about the change in the first place.
I don't even care if they are hard to use. That was what tanking was fun about back in the day. You were in a 2 million isk tank that was easy to lose. It made every tank matter.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
38
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Posted - 2014.06.23 00:23:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:I believe their removal was about rethinking vehicle roles, obviously black ops HAVs, marauders, and enforcers weren't working as intended, so they were all removed in turn.
I never saw a black ops HAV in the field (probably because they cost an arm, a leg, and several fucktons of SP), and enforcers were declared useless by the community. Yes, this is true. But, that doesn't mean that in the past 6 months they couldn't of thought of more uses for them. Enforcers- high damage, lower survivability. Marauders- low damage, high survivability. Why not? Enforces are actually long range, low survivability, while marauders are just plain high damage, nothing else.
Yes. But people complained that was useless, so I was brain storming. I think they were fine, but others did not.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
38
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Posted - 2014.06.23 00:49:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Vulpes Dolosus wrote:I do not want Logistic vehicles without proper and viable logistic modules and/or turrets to make them actual support vehicles. Not just tankier versions of STD frames. I'd like a return of the Shield/Armor Transporters, as well as a "Nanohive Module" that would re-supply vehicles with ammunition.. Not only is that good for content creation and encourages teamwork, it solves the issue of Supply Depots being inaccessible to vehicles as well.
I noticed you changed your sig. I wonder why....
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.23 01:23:00 -
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This is what Charlie should be about. If they can't do it for Charlie for some odd reason then Delta, at the latest.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
50
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Posted - 2014.06.23 02:21:00 -
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low genius wrote:title is cancelled. move on.
No, the title is not canceled. I still have fun with it, and I will play it until it is shut offline. Which definetly will not happen until legion drops
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.23 15:26:00 -
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Requesting a blue tag on this.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
63
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Posted - 2014.06.23 23:49:00 -
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Does anyone have a valid argument against this? Rattati even said that client side updates are possible now, so why not?
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
63
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Posted - 2014.06.23 23:52:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Does anyone have a valid argument against this? Rattati even said that client side updates are possible now, so why not? **** vehicle reintroduction. GImme Amarr HAV! PS: Sorry Darth but I want my Amarr HAV!
oh.... if only if only......
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
67
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Posted - 2014.06.24 01:08:00 -
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Denchlad 7 wrote:I want my Vayu and Callisto back.  As Rattati has said client side patches aren't impossible, maybe in a final game update, say, Uprising 1.9 or something cool like Solace 2.0 (Solace chosen especially.), we could introduce all the things that were ridded of pre-1.7. But we need a list of what they are specifically (I've forgotton half the modules myself), then post them compared with Lynn's stats above in the Features/Requests forum. Anyone with a decent memory/too much time on their hands/bored enough to do that? *glances at Atiim*
in the 1.7 respec post CCP listed all the things removed along with what they cost, but no stats. we may be able to fish up some from looking at fitting videos on youtube for pre 1.7 tanks though.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.24 01:26:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:DarthJT5 wrote:Denchlad 7 wrote:I want my Vayu and Callisto back. As Rattati has said client side patches aren't impossible, maybe in a final game update, say, Uprising 1.9 or something cool like Solace 2.0 (Solace chosen especially.), we could introduce all the things that were ridded of pre-1.7. But we need a list of what they are specifically (I've forgotton half the modules myself), then post them compared with Lynn's stats above in the Features/Requests forum. Anyone with a decent memory/too much time on their hands/bored enough to do that? *glances at Atiim* in the 1.7 respec post CCP listed all the things removed along with what they cost, but no stats. we may be able to fish up some from looking at fitting videos on youtube for pre 1.7 tanks though. Poor unloved Surya and Sagaris...... I want ya's both back. What I want more is....... AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV! AMARR HAV!
you are determined good sir. would you liek an oreo crafted by the finest chef-slaves in New Eden for your determination?
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.24 01:58:00 -
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can anyone find Pyrex's old fitting videos for pre 1.7 tanks? he looks through the vehicle module markets in them i believe.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.24 14:51:00 -
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Bumping this because its the only thing i really care fir in this game.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.06.29 16:40:00 -
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Was giving a little rest to the spam, bumping back to the top because again, its the only thing i care for.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.08.27 20:54:00 -
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Wellp, moght as well bump for Delta... Or Echo...
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.08.27 22:27:00 -
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Bumpity bump bump
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Up and coming Python pilot.
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.08.28 23:08:00 -
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Aaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnd bump
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.08.30 02:11:00 -
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Buuuuuummmmmppppp
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
99
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Posted - 2014.08.30 02:16:00 -
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Soraya Xel wrote:A standing point is that the current vehicles are pretty much "better than proto" grade compared to infantry. I'd not expect to get more powerful vehicles than what exist now. Different, perhaps, but not better.
Notice i said variation, not better. The tank variants would be better in some ways, worse in other, but not just flat out better. I want tanking to not be boring anymore.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
105
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Posted - 2014.08.30 14:34:00 -
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Like it or not, this is getting on the front page every day till we are awnsered. Bump.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.08.31 18:59:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:No marauders. Variants should have pros and cons, not flat pros.
Why not? Infantry dropsuit variants have only pros. When you go from a frame to a actual suit do you get any cons?
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
111
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Posted - 2014.09.01 04:18:00 -
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The bump is real.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:03:00 -
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Might put a thread up in features, not that it will help any.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.09.02 19:16:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:CPM hears you and the desire is well known; From vehicle variants to turret variants we want them back or added.
However CCP has a massive shopping list of things they'd like to get done before they start expanding on this manner.
If I had to guess Foxtrot or Golf; no promises of course but echo's features are beginning to get solidified and it seems to be more of a touch up on the most unloved roles again because of hotfixes.
Please do continue to discuss your visions for these potentials however.
Now, how hard would it have been for any ccp dev to just come on here and say what you just said. This thread was created a long time ago and now has 7 pages of people who mostly agree with me. But instead of someone just putting in the thread "were working on it", we get....... Silence. Please understand the frustration here.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
120
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Posted - 2014.09.03 03:00:00 -
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Alright, because i have free time and ideas what do you guys think about a long range missile launcher variant that fires in bursts like the old ones. Im thinking increase the range to 300m, less recoil, maybe 50% less splash radius and damage, inreased magazine size(18? 24?) and increased missile velocity. Thoughts? Maybe less direct damage as well.
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.10.28 22:54:00 -
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Thread revival part 2! =ƒÿ£
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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DarthJT5
12th Shadow Legion
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Posted - 2014.12.11 23:10:00 -
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Bump for getting the vehicles back! I never thought it would actually happen.... But its officialy happening. *sheds single tear*
Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta.
Up and coming Python pilot.
The awnser is always XT missiles....
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