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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
Psychotic Alliance
1362
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:21:00 -
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My skills don't seem to be applying to my militia rail rifle on my starter fit. The rapid reload skill anyway.
Calmanndo user with nova knives: Because someone has to do it.
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IMMORTAL WAR HERO
NECROM0NGERS
Caps and Mercs
148
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:22:00 -
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because they are not supposed to
Frowned upon by amateurs: The object of war is not to die for your country but make the other bastard die for his. GSP
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TechMechMeds
Inner.Hell
3656
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:25:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:My skills don't seem to be applying to my militia rail rifle on my starter fit. The rapid reload skill anyway.
I think i saw you in a match yesterday.
you was brandishing knives and i thought wtf lol.
I will spam your face with aurum proto.
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Derrith Erador
2118
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:26:00 -
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Militia gear reloads slower than the standard stuff. That's probably why you don't feel it.
Betty White, the worlds hottest grandma.
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
Psychotic Alliance
1362
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:27:00 -
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No, I timed it with a stopwatch. 4.1 seconds, with level 3 rapid reload, which should make it 3.4 seconds, which is significantly faster.
Calmanndo user with nova knives: Because someone has to do it.
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
Psychotic Alliance
1362
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:28:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:My skills don't seem to be applying to my militia rail rifle on my starter fit. The rapid reload skill anyway. I think i saw you in a match yesterday. you was brandishing knives and i thought wtf lol.
Calmanndo with nova knives, brah. If I don't do it, who will?
Calmanndo user with nova knives: Because someone has to do it.
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TechMechMeds
Inner.Hell
3656
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:31:00 -
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Im getting pretty adept with my min sentinel. I might have to replace the shield reg with a kin kat and the energizer for more shield so i can stab people efficiently.
Built for that one stab in the face but longer regen.
I will spam your face with aurum proto.
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
Psychotic Alliance
1362
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:44:00 -
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So my proficiency is applying, just not my rapid reload.
Calmanndo user with nova knives: Because someone has to do it.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
15552
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Posted - 2014.06.20 21:45:00 -
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In my honest opinion, none of the skills should apply.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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Gooseman Manwhore
CREATURES OF THE NIGHT
62
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Posted - 2014.06.20 21:57:00 -
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It's militia gear. You pay maybe 900 isk per weapon. It's meant to be lowest of the low but still useable. Almost like a Kalashnikov.
I put the sexi in dyslexia
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Tectonic Fusion
1740
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Posted - 2014.06.20 22:04:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:In my honest opinion, none of the skills should apply.
Then they should add a militia only mode, so they can fight there.
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Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
Psychotic Alliance
1363
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Posted - 2014.06.20 22:59:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:In my honest opinion, none of the skills should apply.
Skills should most definitely apply. The only dissference should be the ability to fit them without skills, and for them to suffer some detriment, like reload speed, mag cap, etc. My skills should apply to all the rifles of a given class, including militia.
Calmanndo user with nova knives: Because someone has to do it.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
15557
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Posted - 2014.06.20 23:15:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:In my honest opinion, none of the skills should apply. Skills should most definitely apply. The only dissference should be the ability to fit them without skills, and for them to suffer some detriment, like reload speed, mag cap, etc. My skills should apply to all the rifles of a given class, including militia.
Then why go military grade?
Performance per cost is many times more efficient on militia. Especially those who have BPO ones and its considered one of the larger problems in the game that people would rather stay with militia gear than to upgrade.
That's like saying why bother gearing up in an MMO your skills encompasses everything you'll ever need.
CPM 0 Secretary
Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist
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Cogadh Draco
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
39
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Posted - 2014.06.20 23:25:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:In my honest opinion, none of the skills should apply.
I agree, if it's the lowest gear that costs close to nothing and requires no skill in 'em, then they should remain the way they are. |
Jotun Izalaru
Goonfeet
140
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Posted - 2014.06.20 23:30:00 -
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The incentive to upgrade is not everyone can cope with lower clip size and worse reload and less advantages overall.
You upgrade to cover your skill deficiencies. You stay low-grade to fix them.
Your actual SP earned skills applying to militia weapons helps this - your rapid reload skill may make you reload faster, but still not as fast as a normal gun would. Your commando skill makes your militia rifle more damaging by a percentage.... but not as damaging as a standard and above rifle under the same circumstance.
You can practice this way, because your skills matter, but you're still disadvantaged because they matter less. |
Alena Ventrallis
The Neutral Zone
Psychotic Alliance
1363
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Posted - 2014.06.20 23:32:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:In my honest opinion, none of the skills should apply. Skills should most definitely apply. The only dissference should be the ability to fit them without skills, and for them to suffer some detriment, like reload speed, mag cap, etc. My skills should apply to all the rifles of a given class, including militia. Then why go military grade? Performance per cost is many times more efficient on militia. Especially those who have BPO ones and its considered one of the larger problems in the game that people would rather stay with militia gear than to upgrade. That's like saying why bother gearing up in an MMO your skills encompasses everything you'll ever need.
In which case, people would simply stick with standard gear, right? But they don't, because after skills, gear quality is the next step to get an edge on an opponent. Militia gear should be somewhat competitive with the other gear.
Eve side, my skills apply to the free rookie ships, hell they even have their own recommended skillsets. So why wouldn't we have skills apply to the rookie suits too?
Calmanndo user with nova knives: Because someone has to do it.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
15559
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Posted - 2014.06.20 23:41:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Alena Ventrallis wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:In my honest opinion, none of the skills should apply. Skills should most definitely apply. The only dissference should be the ability to fit them without skills, and for them to suffer some detriment, like reload speed, mag cap, etc. My skills should apply to all the rifles of a given class, including militia. Then why go military grade? Performance per cost is many times more efficient on militia. Especially those who have BPO ones and its considered one of the larger problems in the game that people would rather stay with militia gear than to upgrade. That's like saying why bother gearing up in an MMO your skills encompasses everything you'll ever need. In which case, people would simply stick with standard gear, right? But they don't, because after skills, gear quality is the next step to get an edge on an opponent. Militia gear should be somewhat competitive with the other gear. Eve side, my skills apply to the free rookie ships, hell they even have their own recommended skillsets. So why wouldn't we have skills apply to the rookie suits too?
Eve is tiericided though and its going further way way with all modules coming next.
Also rookie ships do not get a per level bonus unlike every other ship in eve just about save the shuttle.
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Grand Master Kubo
PIanet Express
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
88
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Posted - 2014.06.21 00:08:00 -
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I have scrambler pistol operation five and get 13 shots in a militia scrambler pistol. If skills don't stack on militia weapons then passives shouldn't stack on militia frames. I see no reason why skilling into a weapon shouldn't benefit militia variants. |
Tectonic Fusion
1746
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Posted - 2014.06.21 00:39:00 -
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Grand Master Kubo wrote:I have scrambler pistol operation five and get 13 shots in a militia scrambler pistol. If skills don't stack on militia weapons then passives shouldn't stack on militia frames. I see no reason why skilling into a weapon shouldn't benefit militia variants.
In case militia only mode gets released.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
Last VenDetta.
Dark Taboo
1095
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Posted - 2014.06.21 01:21:00 -
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Instead of Militia only mode, frontline only mode, can only spawn in un-modified frontline suits! the suits get no bonuses in any way (gear, weapons, skills passives)
We should call it Gun Gale.
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
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