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vlad stoich
NoGameNoLife
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:30:00 -
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I am tired of trying to grind out the SP every week. I know it burns a lot of people out on this game. I am no fool either as I know this game is on life support.
BUT, what if .
You could buy a multiplier that multiplys your SP every battle by 2 or 3. Just like the ones that used during SP events. It would cut down the grind significantly.
They could be sold separately for Aurum or bundled together with a booster.
Like I said, I know this game is dying, and no one wants to spend money BUT I still have aurum and would probably spend more money if I knew everything would transfer to Legion or I knew an exact date of when this game was going to be unplugged.
Plus I am sure it looks good for the DEV's on Dust side if transactions are taking place especially with all the work that has been done lately. Thanks Ratty.
Any thoughts, ideas, feedback are welcomed. Even trolls. They need luv too. |
Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1412
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:35:00 -
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You should seriously stop bothering about capping out every week if playing the game annoys you so much that you'd rather pay to not play.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1559
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:37:00 -
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i still cap ina day or two it would be nice if they bumped it would give nubs a chance to catch up on bitter vets(like me) who barely play |
vlad stoich
NoGameNoLife
100
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:38:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:You should seriously stop bothering about capping out every week if playing the game annoys you so much that you'd rather pay to not play.
I play my main and 2 alts. I really like your comment. It really touched on the idea and subject on hand. I just wish your argument was valid. |
Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1561
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:42:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:You should seriously stop bothering about capping out every week if playing the game annoys you so much that you'd rather pay to not play. wow deep dude. a very educated and well constructed opinion. very productive to the conversation.
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vlad stoich
NoGameNoLife
101
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:45:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:You should seriously stop bothering about capping out every week if playing the game annoys you so much that you'd rather pay to not play. wow deep dude. a very educated and well constructed opinion. very productive to the conversation.
Thats ok Morte. Trolls have opinions and feelings too. All are welcomed. |
deezy dabest
Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers
652
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:48:00 -
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What you are describing is really no different than the current boosters.
The grind feeling comes from the fact that if you do not cap out that week you feel like you have lost that potential SP forever.
All we need is for unused bonus SP to accumulate to a second pool that kicks in whenever you cap out. This secondary pool should have a cap on it like say 1 million, anything over the set cap would be lost forever. We would then be able use extra SP out of that pool on high play weeks while not feeling too much loss if we come up short of the cap for the week by whatever amount.
Laser focused in a room full of mirrors. Everything you ever wanted coming SoonGäó just keep buying boosters.
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vlad stoich
NoGameNoLife
101
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:52:00 -
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deezy dabest wrote:What you are describing is really no different than the current boosters.
The grind feeling comes from the fact that if you do not cap out that week you feel like you have lost that potential SP forever.
All we need is for unused bonus SP to accumulate to a second pool that kicks in whenever you cap out. This secondary pool should have a cap on it like say 1 million, anything over the set cap would be lost forever. We would then be able use extra SP out of that pool on high play weeks while not feeling too much loss if we come up short of the cap for the week by whatever amount.
Yes I am in favor of rollover SP but that is not what I am describing.
You know when they have an SP event, it is:
1) 3 times the normal SP amount so Approx 570,000 SP.
2) 5 times the payout per battle of SP. So if normally you would have been paid 5,000 SP that is now 25K Sp.
Make a booster (multiplier) available to buy for aurum that multiplys your payout per match thus cutting down the total SP pool faster, |
Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1414
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:54:00 -
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vlad stoich wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:You should seriously stop bothering about capping out every week if playing the game annoys you so much that you'd rather pay to not play. I play my main and 2 alts. I really like your comment. It really touched on the idea and subject on hand. I just wish your argument was valid. This actually made me chuckle.
But I fail to see how your self imposed burden of capping three characters at once does anything but reinforce my argument that reducing your required playtime is entirely within your power and sensible thing to do if you can't enjoy your current schedule.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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vlad stoich
NoGameNoLife
101
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Posted - 2014.06.20 17:56:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:vlad stoich wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:You should seriously stop bothering about capping out every week if playing the game annoys you so much that you'd rather pay to not play. I play my main and 2 alts. I really like your comment. It really touched on the idea and subject on hand. I just wish your argument was valid. This actually made me chuckle. But I fail to see how your self imposed burden of capping three characters at once does anything but reinforce my argument that reducing your required playtime is entirely within your power and sensible thing to do if you can't enjoy your current schedule.
I read the first sentence then the rest was just blah blah blah , some more words, then blah blah blah .
GG sir. |
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1562
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Posted - 2014.06.20 18:09:00 -
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vlad stoich wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:vlad stoich wrote:Malkai Inos wrote:You should seriously stop bothering about capping out every week if playing the game annoys you so much that you'd rather pay to not play. I play my main and 2 alts. I really like your comment. It really touched on the idea and subject on hand. I just wish your argument was valid. This actually made me chuckle. But I fail to see how your self imposed burden of capping three characters at once does anything but reinforce my argument that reducing your required playtime is entirely within your power and sensible thing to do if you can't enjoy your current schedule. I read the first sentence then the rest was just blah blah blah , some more words, then blah blah blah . GG sir. tell me how having a larger weekly cap will hurt people?
he caps out 3 alts because the cap is ****. if anything that should validate his argument that the cap is to small i think if ccp wont give everyone a larger cap they should implement a way to purchase one |
Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
1415
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Posted - 2014.06.20 18:32:00 -
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Mortedeamor wrote: tell me how having a larger weekly cap will hurt people?
he caps out 3 alts because the cap is ****. if anything that should validate his argument that the cap is to small i think if ccp wont give everyone a larger cap they should implement a way to purchase one
vlad stoich wrote:I am tired of trying to grind out the SP every week. Looks like the exact opposite of wanting an even larger cap so he can grind some more.
But lets not assume anything. Lets see what OP is actually proposing:
vlad stoich wrote: 1) 3 times the normal SP amount so Approx 570,000 SP.
2) 5 times the payout per battle of SP. So if normally you would have been paid 5,000 SP that is now 25K Sp. Make a booster (multiplier) available to buy for aurum that multiplys your payout per match thus cutting down the total SP pool faster
He's not asking for a larger cap. He's asking for a way to cap out with less time invested. I'm merely pointing out that, while I can understand that the grind can be(read: is) tedious, especially when you want to maintain three toons, paying money to basically play less is rather odd when you can just screw the cap and play when/how long you want instead without paying a dime or stressing yourself out over a freaking video game.
As a side note: Yes, rollover SP should've happened more than two years ago.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
100
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Posted - 2014.06.20 19:02:00 -
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vlad stoich wrote:I am tired of trying to grind out the SP every week. I know it burns a lot of people out on this game. I am no fool either as I know this game is on life support.
BUT, what if .
You could buy a multiplier that multiplys your SP every battle by 2 or 3. Just like the ones that used during SP events. It would cut down the grind significantly.
They could be sold separately for Aurum or bundled together with a booster.
Like I said, I know this game is dying, and no one wants to spend money BUT I still have aurum and would probably spend more money if I knew everything would transfer to Legion or I knew an exact date of when this game was going to be unplugged.
Plus I am sure it looks good for the DEV's on Dust side if transactions are taking place especially with all the work that has been done lately. Thanks Ratty.
Any thoughts, ideas, feedback are welcomed. Even trolls. They need luv too.
the sp grind is a big part of the game.... what you are really saying is you don't like dust.... I would suggest you move on. |
vlad stoich
NoGameNoLife
101
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Posted - 2014.06.20 19:08:00 -
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Seymour KrelbornX wrote:vlad stoich wrote:I am tired of trying to grind out the SP every week. I know it burns a lot of people out on this game. I am no fool either as I know this game is on life support.
BUT, what if .
You could buy a multiplier that multiplys your SP every battle by 2 or 3. Just like the ones that used during SP events. It would cut down the grind significantly.
They could be sold separately for Aurum or bundled together with a booster.
Like I said, I know this game is dying, and no one wants to spend money BUT I still have aurum and would probably spend more money if I knew everything would transfer to Legion or I knew an exact date of when this game was going to be unplugged.
Plus I am sure it looks good for the DEV's on Dust side if transactions are taking place especially with all the work that has been done lately. Thanks Ratty.
Any thoughts, ideas, feedback are welcomed. Even trolls. They need luv too. the sp grind is a big part of the game.... what you are really saying is you don't like dust.... I would suggest you move on.
Very original troll. Did I say those words? IS your reading comprehension levels up to par? GED's are acceptable.
GG Sir. 2EZ |
2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
175
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Posted - 2014.06.20 19:20:00 -
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Sp rollover, please.
How about now?
Now?
I am the cool.
Shamma lamma mu mu
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Tectonic Fusion
1739
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Posted - 2014.06.20 19:57:00 -
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I've never capped out in a single day. I've been here since a little before the last hotfix of chromosome.
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vlad stoich
NoGameNoLife
101
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:40:00 -
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Tectonic Fusion wrote:I've never capped out in a single day. I've been here since a little before the last hotfix of chromosome.
Neither have I. Usually takes 2-3 days. Running advanced or proto logi, and Proto forge. |
Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
106
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Posted - 2014.06.20 20:44:00 -
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vlad stoich wrote:Seymour KrelbornX wrote:vlad stoich wrote:I am tired of trying to grind out the SP every week. I know it burns a lot of people out on this game. I am no fool either as I know this game is on life support.
BUT, what if .
You could buy a multiplier that multiplys your SP every battle by 2 or 3. Just like the ones that used during SP events. It would cut down the grind significantly.
They could be sold separately for Aurum or bundled together with a booster.
Like I said, I know this game is dying, and no one wants to spend money BUT I still have aurum and would probably spend more money if I knew everything would transfer to Legion or I knew an exact date of when this game was going to be unplugged.
Plus I am sure it looks good for the DEV's on Dust side if transactions are taking place especially with all the work that has been done lately. Thanks Ratty.
Any thoughts, ideas, feedback are welcomed. Even trolls. They need luv too. the sp grind is a big part of the game.... what you are really saying is you don't like dust.... I would suggest you move on. Very original troll. Did I say those words? IS your reading comprehension levels up to par? GED's are acceptable. GG Sir. 2EZ
actually about 70% of human communication doesn't even use words... add to that how little what most of us say is actually what we mean, and the relevancy of the actual words you use is diminished exponentially...
so no you didn't use those words, but that's still what you are saying, even if you don't realize it.... |
vlad stoich
NoGameNoLife
101
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Posted - 2014.06.20 21:01:00 -
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Seymour KrelbornX wrote:vlad stoich wrote:Seymour KrelbornX wrote:vlad stoich wrote:I am tired of trying to grind out the SP every week. I know it burns a lot of people out on this game. I am no fool either as I know this game is on life support.
BUT, what if .
You could buy a multiplier that multiplys your SP every battle by 2 or 3. Just like the ones that used during SP events. It would cut down the grind significantly.
They could be sold separately for Aurum or bundled together with a booster.
Like I said, I know this game is dying, and no one wants to spend money BUT I still have aurum and would probably spend more money if I knew everything would transfer to Legion or I knew an exact date of when this game was going to be unplugged.
Plus I am sure it looks good for the DEV's on Dust side if transactions are taking place especially with all the work that has been done lately. Thanks Ratty.
Any thoughts, ideas, feedback are welcomed. Even trolls. They need luv too. the sp grind is a big part of the game.... what you are really saying is you don't like dust.... I would suggest you move on. Very original troll. Did I say those words? IS your reading comprehension levels up to par? GED's are acceptable. GG Sir. 2EZ actually about 70% of human communication doesn't even use words... add to that how little what most of us say is actually what we mean, and the relevancy of the actual words you use is diminished exponentially... so no you didn't use those words, but that's still what you are saying, even if you don't realize it....
Good job Dr. Phil Nailed it on the head. Again I saw the first few words, then the rest was mumbly jumbly. Blah blah blah blah blah |
Rizlax Yazzax
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
331
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Posted - 2014.06.20 23:36:00 -
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You're need to cap out not one, but three characters every week is entirely self imposed. If you're finding it too tedious then listen to what others have said, and just play less. Believe it or not the world won't end if you have unearned SP. DUST is nothing but grind and if that annoys you, then take a break or find another game. It is obvious you don't like playing for the amount of time you have to. Soooo.......don't?
Now go ahead and commence your bitching because I haven't agreed with you, instead stating the obvious. |
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Mortedeamor
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1579
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Posted - 2014.06.20 23:52:00 -
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2Berries wrote:Sp rollover, please.
How about now?
Now? i personally would love an sp rollover system |
Atiim
NoGameNoLife
9666
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Posted - 2014.06.21 00:03:00 -
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vlad stoich wrote: You could buy a multiplier that multiplys your SP every battle by 2 or 3. Just like the ones that used during SP events. It would cut down the grind significantly.
Umm... That's an Active Booster.
It increases the amount of SP you get at the end of the match by 50%. Although, I wouldn't mind seeing the return of Active Omega Boosters, which increase your SP payouts by 100%.
-Insert Clever Statement Here-
"The Snack That Smiles Back; Amarr Suits"
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vlad stoich
NoGameNoLife
104
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Posted - 2014.06.21 00:58:00 -
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Atiim wrote:vlad stoich wrote: You could buy a multiplier that multiplys your SP every battle by 2 or 3. Just like the ones that used during SP events. It would cut down the grind significantly.
Umm... That's an Active Booster. It increases the amount of SP you get at the end of the match by 50%. Although, I wouldn't mind seeing the return of Active Omega Boosters, which increase your SP payouts by 100%.
No, I am talking about a multiplier that would actually help you chip away at the weekly bonus faster. Not giving more of a SP bonus. |
Atiim
NoGameNoLife
9669
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Posted - 2014.06.21 01:04:00 -
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vlad stoich wrote: No, I am talking about a multiplier that would actually help you chip away at the weekly bonus faster. Not giving more of a SP bonus.
That's what Active Boosters do.
Go to dust514.com/user, sign up for that newsletter and then visit this thread here. Redeem the free 3-Day Active Booster and try it for yourself.
-Insert Clever Statement Here-
"The Snack That Smiles Back; Amarr Suits"
-HAND
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vlad stoich
NoGameNoLife
104
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Posted - 2014.06.21 01:09:00 -
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Atiim wrote:vlad stoich wrote: No, I am talking about a multiplier that would actually help you chip away at the weekly bonus faster. Not giving more of a SP bonus.
That's what Active Boosters do. Go to dust514.com/user, sign up for that newsletter and then visit this thread here. Redeem the free 3-Day Active Booster and try it for yourself.
I know the active booster gives you 50% more SP.
What I am describing is like when they have the SP events you get approx. 570K SP (3x normal amount) pool to grind out. They usually pair that with a 3 or 5 time multiplier to get through that amount in time.
They should make available that multiplier to buy for aurum just like the boosters. Or purchase them as a bundle. |
vlad stoich
NoGameNoLife
104
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Posted - 2014.06.21 01:10:00 -
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Atiim wrote:vlad stoich wrote: No, I am talking about a multiplier that would actually help you chip away at the weekly bonus faster. Not giving more of a SP bonus.
That's what Active Boosters do. Go to dust514.com/user, sign up for that newsletter and then visit this thread here. Redeem the free 3-Day Active Booster and try it for yourself.
What I respect about your posts , is that they are always backed up with links and some type of evidence. |
Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3652
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Posted - 2014.06.21 02:36:00 -
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You're actively ignoring people that are offering an entirely valid solution to your problem, which is that you don't want to grind anymore. I got sick and tired of grinding a little while back - now? I only play when I want to play. I probably play just as much nowadays but it isn't a grind anymore.
And also, what you're describing is a passive SP booster.
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vlad stoich
NoGameNoLife
106
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Posted - 2014.06.21 02:50:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:You're actively ignoring people that are offering an entirely valid solution to your problem, which is that you don't want to grind anymore. I got sick and tired of grinding a little while back - now? I only play when I want to play. I probably play just as much nowadays but it isn't a grind anymore.
And also, what you're describing is a passive SP booster.
What is their solution they are offering?
So when they give us an SP event they are giving us a passive SP booster? Yeah that makes sense. I totally see the light now.
I think you missed the point.
Thanks for trying. |
Atiim
NoGameNoLife
9675
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Posted - 2014.06.21 03:00:00 -
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vlad stoich wrote: I know the active booster gives you 50% more SP.
What I am describing is like when they have the SP events you get approx. 570K SP (3x normal amount) pool to grind out. They usually pair that with a 3 or 5 time multiplier to get through that amount in time.
They should make available that multiplier to buy for aurum just like the boosters. Or purchase them as a bundle.
You mean like the SP Events?
While that does seem good in theory, it would be pay-to-win, which is a game model that CCP said they wish to stray away from. Although, CCP Rattati said that there would be an event soon, so I'd hold my breath for another one.
vlad stoich wrote: What I respect about your posts , is that they are always backed up with links and some type of evidence.
Well, I do try my hardest. Someone's gotta put these bad posters in line right?
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"The Snack That Smiles Back; Amarr Suits"
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vlad stoich
NoGameNoLife
107
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Posted - 2014.06.21 03:11:00 -
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Atiim wrote:vlad stoich wrote: I know the active booster gives you 50% more SP.
What I am describing is like when they have the SP events you get approx. 570K SP (3x normal amount) pool to grind out. They usually pair that with a 3 or 5 time multiplier to get through that amount in time.
They should make available that multiplier to buy for aurum just like the boosters. Or purchase them as a bundle.
You mean like the SP Events? While that does seem good in theory, it would be pay-to-win, which is a game model that CCP said they wish to stray away from. Although, CCP Rattati said that there would be an event soon, so I'd hold my breath for another one. vlad stoich wrote: What I respect about your posts , is that they are always backed up with links and some type of evidence.
Well, I do try my hardest. Someone's gotta put these bad posters in line right?
Yes. At the end of a match you are awarded your SP's for your participation in battle. Lets say it was 5,000 SP. Well you purchased a multiplier that bumped it to 15,000. That takes 15,0000 off of your total weekly bonus. Thus helping you cap faster.
Pay to win lol. Then why sell aurum gear. Why sell boosters. All to get ahead and win. An advantage over those who dont.
They say they want to get away from that, but they do the exact opposite. Like when they had that event and sold Omegas right before FanFest. |
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