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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2014.06.21 18:54:00 -
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CCP is best on the PC, and while the Console has the largest FPS market it is unfortunately not what they are used to. CCP also likes long-term games not making newer versions like the Battlefield series (Nothing wrong with that though), which the console is not ideal for as all consoles have a limited lifespan, where as the PC is upgradable and thus will survive a "ten year plan."
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
8798
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Posted - 2014.06.21 19:03:00 -
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Honestly it would've been far better if Dust began on the PC and then migrated to the console. Reason is simple. The development process for the PC is much faster especially since CCP already has experience with the PC. They don't have to deal with a third party like Sony while developing a game and the update process would be much faster. Once the game is ready, it would've then be ported over to the console in a much more finished state than what you see now.
But... CCP did it the other way instead. Result: Dust to dust. To make matters worse, they released Dust too late in an aging console.
On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10380
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Posted - 2014.06.21 19:09:00 -
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I'll give you guys a hint. CCP is building Legion so that porting from PC to PS4 is as easy as flicking a switch.
*Cough*
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Burntface man112
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
154
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Posted - 2014.06.21 20:23:00 -
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Phoenix 85 wrote:ROEG X wrote:CCP I disagree with you about putting LEGION on PC and heres why. 1. The Dust 514 community consist of console gamers 2. It was a great idea to link PC gamers and console gamers in one universe. 3 The PlayStation Gamer community is much larger than the PC elitist gamer community. 4.The future of Playstation 4 is looking good on the GPD forecast. I've invested so much time into Dust 514, though I do have a bad ass gaming rig, I'm a console gamer at heart. I found Dust 514 on PlayStation Home, got my closed beta key from the Dust 514 lounge on the PS3 and never looked back. I remember before Dust 514 even hit the scene people were recruiting heavy on PlayStation Home.
Now with Next Gen technology here and my Playstation 4 set for the next wave of Next Gen gaming. I was really hoping LEGION would be developed for the PlayStation 4. My investment to Dust 514 is major and I would hate if I couldn't be part of New Eden on the PlayStation 4. CCP reconsider what your doing and fight for development of LEGION for the PlayStation 4. I believe in you guys making a badass AAA title exclusive for the PlayStation 4. If you wanna crowd fund LEGION for the Playstation 4 to make the game every hardcore Dust 514 fan wants lets do this. You guys have horrible PR.
Mercenaries in the world of New Eden are saying Dust 514 is dead but I believe different. I'm screaming make LEGION for the PlayStation 4 let us continue our war. I found Dust 514 on PS3 not PC. The coolest experience was the cross platform link between a console and a PC from both types of gamers on both platforms. You made it happen CCP. LEGION should be a PS4 title. no. How many Dust players bought a PS3 so they could play it? 1. Its not just console gaming peasants. 2. No. Sonys arbitrary update BS has held the game back. 3. LOL no. 4. The PS4 is a mid 2012 gaming PC. Fact: PS4 is not 'next gen" if it cant run games at 1080p @ 60 frames per second. Fact: even PS4 cannot handle the vision CCP has for this game. Where did you get your facts?
PS4 is simiar to a mid level Gaming PC rig but not 2012. Mid level Gaming Rigs in 2012 had a hard time handing Planetside 2 on Ultra settings. But the PS4 definitely cannot compete with a PC market or hardware.
That said... PS4 can run in 1080p @ 60 frames per second... Look at PS4 launch tite Killzone Shadow Fall. Also Look at PS2 coming at E3...
Here is the reality of PC gaming... Its a more support market, its a more connected market, and its adaptable market. Here is the reality of PS4 gaming... Its a divide market due to "console Wars", Its a more profitable market, its a market that once sinks its teeth into a product it will stay profitable for a long period of time. |
The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA
The DOT MAFIA
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Posted - 2014.06.21 21:13:00 -
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STEAM MACHINE--BIAATCHES!
Uncle Gabe will protect you from the C# boogey monsters. He'll publish your game for you. Mr. Newell, will provide a proven distribution network. Good ole uncle gabe has built in match making. 1080p and it will support CCP EVE's recommended gpu.
PC gaming?...... you idiots mean WINTEL? a mac is CICS INTEL is CICS xbox is CICS AMD is CICS PS4 is CICS
IT's the OS stupid!
fuktarded evetards. |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
313
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Posted - 2014.06.21 23:41:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:CCP Iceland is not CCP Shanghai. CCP Shanghai still has to prove they can deliver what they promised. What makes you think that Legion will be what promised, regardless of platform, after being let down and being lied to several times?
Btw, we wont see a fully released Legion version for atleast 1 year, if not 2 years, anyway.
PS: going for PC instead of PS4 is a missed opportunity but I think even a donkey realizes that.
Because the PS3 is an outdated, crappy piece of hardware, and it was a pipe dream to think that all the stuff they wanted to build for Dust was possible on it? |
Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.06.21 23:46:00 -
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I know we all want it on PS4, but if you're a true fan of Dust, you want Legion to be on PC. For the vision of Dust 514 to be totally realized (in which Legion is its evolution) it is better that they go to PC. For one, the approval process for add ons and such from Sony is nonexistent in the PC world. The hot fixes can come quicker. The beauty and all the implementations to make Legion the game that CCP envisioned for Dust can be fully explored.
No doubt, I too would love it on PS4. But when you put all bullet points on the scale, you see that PC outweighs PS4.
Plus, I truly believe the PC crowd will be more accepting of Legion than the console crowd would be.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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NIETZCHES OVERMAN
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
81
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Posted - 2014.06.21 23:54:00 -
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ROEG X wrote:CCP I disagree with you about putting LEGION on PC and heres why. 1. The Dust 514 community consist of console gamers 2. It was a great idea to link PC gamers and console gamers in one universe. 3 The PlayStation Gamer community is much larger than the PC elitist gamer community. 4.The future of Playstation 4 is looking good on the GPD forecast. I've invested so much time into Dust 514, though I do have a bad ass gaming rig, I'm a console gamer at heart. I found Dust 514 on PlayStation Home, got my closed beta key from the Dust 514 lounge on the PS3 and never looked back. I remember before Dust 514 even hit the scene people were recruiting heavy on PlayStation Home.
Now with Next Gen technology here and my Playstation 4 set for the next wave of Next Gen gaming. I was really hoping LEGION would be developed for the PlayStation 4. My investment to Dust 514 is major and I would hate if I couldn't be part of New Eden on the PlayStation 4. CCP reconsider what your doing and fight for development of LEGION for the PlayStation 4. I believe in you guys making a badass AAA title exclusive for the PlayStation 4. If you wanna crowd fund LEGION for the Playstation 4 to make the game every hardcore Dust 514 fan wants lets do this. You guys have horrible PR.
Mercenaries in the world of New Eden are saying Dust 514 is dead but I believe different. I'm screaming make LEGION for the PlayStation 4 let us continue our war. I found Dust 514 on PS3 not PC. The coolest experience was the cross platform link between a console and a PC from both types of gamers on both platforms. You made it happen CCP. LEGION should be a PS4 title. Moving it to PC is the right move CCP, its time to get these console thugs out of here and get Eve players involved in their game. I say thos who wont come to PC good riddance...... We all know eve is where the momey is, these f2p play scrubs are spending pennys while we spend bricks...... Pz out ps3 sony console scrubs. |
low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
1989
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Posted - 2014.06.22 01:55:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:IraqiFriendshipExplosive wrote:No way. As EVE players we already had to buy one useless console to play DUST. I would never buy a ps4 to play Legion. (Even though the PS4 is the better console out).
Bring it back to PC CCP! Back to home, where it should have always been! ur the idiot that bought a console nearing its end to play 1 game ur the one at fault acting like u were forced to buy it lmao You're still alive?
you stole my line!
rip ccp. it was a good run.
www.forum.eternalcrusade.com
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low genius
The Sound Of Freedom
1989
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Posted - 2014.06.22 01:56:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:Jack McReady wrote:CCP Iceland is not CCP Shanghai. CCP Shanghai still has to prove they can deliver what they promised. What makes you think that Legion will be what promised, regardless of platform, after being let down and being lied to several times?
Btw, we wont see a fully released Legion version for atleast 1 year, if not 2 years, anyway.
PS: going for PC instead of PS4 is a missed opportunity but I think even a donkey realizes that. Because the PS3 is an outdated, crappy piece of hardware, and it was a pipe dream to think that all the stuff they wanted to build for Dust was possible on it?
well, that's pretty bold. they developed on the unreal engine on the ps3 because it would be so easy to move onto another system, or to move to pc.
do your homework kiddo.
rip ccp. it was a good run.
www.forum.eternalcrusade.com
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Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
3540
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Posted - 2014.06.24 21:02:00 -
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Zyrus Amalomyn wrote:
Because the PS3 is an outdated, crappy piece of hardware, and it was a pipe dream to think that all the stuff they wanted to build for Dust was possible on it?
the many good FPSes on PS3 says Hi
u can call it a crappy piece of hardware but they never even got the basic FPS stuff to be good , yes id agree that the pipedreams they wanted werent gonna work on PS3 but to sit and tell me the basic FPS part is the PS3 fault id say ur another blinded idiot who just cant accept that CCP Shanghai are very bad at making a GOOD FPS.
MAG was what? 09? and that had solid FPS mechanics and 256 player battles, the other deeper stuff and clan support is where it failed.
BF3 and BF4 all run on PS3, 12v12 just a few short of 16v16 and they have much bigger maps, vehicles , destruction and look a HELL of alot better
KZ2....16v16 gorgeous game, solid FPS mechanics, KZ3 12v12 (poor balance on the marksman class but otherwise solid fps minus that)
Dont blame the hardware when the core stuff CCP did is ASS
low genius wrote:Aeon Amadi wrote:Mavado V Noriega wrote:IraqiFriendshipExplosive wrote:No way. As EVE players we already had to buy one useless console to play DUST. I would never buy a ps4 to play Legion. (Even though the PS4 is the better console out).
Bring it back to PC CCP! Back to home, where it should have always been! ur the idiot that bought a console nearing its end to play 1 game ur the one at fault acting like u were forced to buy it lmao You're still alive? you stole my line!
i never died :P im just not frustrating myself over this game like others :P having fun on PS4 playin other **** atm **** that i dont gotta wait 10yrs for it to be playable :P
Preacher of #Logic & Godfather of Molden Heath,
Playing better actually competitive games
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Spaceman-Rob
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
418
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Posted - 2014.06.24 21:17:00 -
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I do believe that it will end up on ps4, but it will definitely be on pc first. |
ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1365
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Posted - 2014.06.24 21:22:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:I know we all want it on PS4, but if you're a true fan of Dust, you want Legion to be on PC. For the vision of Dust 514 to be totally realized (in which Legion is its evolution) it is better that they go to PC. For one, the approval process for add ons and such from Sony is nonexistent in the PC world. The hot fixes can come quicker. The beauty and all the implementations to make Legion the game that CCP envisioned for Dust can be fully explored.
No doubt, I too would love it on PS4. But when you put all bullet points on the scale, you see that PC outweighs PS4.
Plus, I truly believe the PC crowd will be more accepting of Legion than the console crowd would be.
Not to be an ass, but hotfixes require no approval. They only take as much time as CCP requires... With no approval, they can also royally screw up (as CCP QA has proven to not notice jack squat of issues) just as easily... Which is then fixed with a hotfix that requires no additional time...
If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known.
Also, Raptors...
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ROEG X
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dirt Nap Squad.
78
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:44:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:Michael Arck wrote:I know we all want it on PS4, but if you're a true fan of Dust, you want Legion to be on PC. For the vision of Dust 514 to be totally realized (in which Legion is its evolution) it is better that they go to PC. For one, the approval process for add ons and such from Sony is nonexistent in the PC world. The hot fixes can come quicker. The beauty and all the implementations to make Legion the game that CCP envisioned for Dust can be fully explored.
No doubt, I too would love it on PS4. But when you put all bullet points on the scale, you see that PC outweighs PS4.
Plus, I truly believe the PC crowd will be more accepting of Legion than the console crowd would be.
Not to be an ass, but hotfixes require no approval. They only take as much time as CCP requires... With no approval, they can also royally screw up (as CCP QA has proven to not notice jack squat of issues) just as easily... Which is then fixed with a hotfix that requires no additional time...
I don't believe PC gamers really embrace shooters like console gamers do. Point and click with hot keys is easy compared to using DS3's which takes real skill to use on the console side. Next gen hardware from Sony I must say spec wise they got it right. I hope you remember PC gaming almost died 8 years ago, the console market almost killed it, Steam saved PC. The cool thing about PC is you do get some really good mmo/ action rpg games with tons of exploration and customization, next gen consoles technologically are pretty much on par with pc.
Everyone whose hardcore in gaming knows pc's evolves at a rapid pace which is great because console hardware will be improved to dedicate all of it's next gen hardware specs to gaming unlike pc. The mod community is the real brains behind gaming because they aren't afraid to try new things thats what I love about PC the most. One day consoles will be the God gaming machines every gamer dreams of until then I do agree PC is king of technological advancement in gaming. |
Kurai-Ronin
Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State
2
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Posted - 2014.06.25 14:46:00 -
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ROEG X wrote:CCP I disagree with you about putting LEGION on PC and heres why. 1. The Dust 514 community consist of console gamers 2. It was a great idea to link PC gamers and console gamers in one universe. 3 The PlayStation Gamer community is much larger than the PC elitist gamer community. 4.The future of Playstation 4 is looking good on the GPD forecast. I've invested so much time into Dust 514, though I do have a bad ass gaming rig, I'm a console gamer at heart. I found Dust 514 on PlayStation Home, got my closed beta key from the Dust 514 lounge on the PS3 and never looked back. I remember before Dust 514 even hit the scene people were recruiting heavy on PlayStation Home.
Now with Next Gen technology here and my Playstation 4 set for the next wave of Next Gen gaming. I was really hoping LEGION would be developed for the PlayStation 4. My investment to Dust 514 is major and I would hate if I couldn't be part of New Eden on the PlayStation 4. CCP reconsider what your doing and fight for development of LEGION for the PlayStation 4. I believe in you guys making a badass AAA title exclusive for the PlayStation 4. If you wanna crowd fund LEGION for the Playstation 4 to make the game every hardcore Dust 514 fan wants lets do this. You guys have horrible PR.
Mercenaries in the world of New Eden are saying Dust 514 is dead but I believe different. I'm screaming make LEGION for the PlayStation 4 let us continue our war. I found Dust 514 on PS3 not PC. The coolest experience was the cross platform link between a console and a PC from both types of gamers on both platforms. You made it happen CCP. LEGION should be a PS4 title. XD People like you. CCP said that legion is a 'prototype'. They're just going to make modifications and then they might make it on PS4 or PS5 if it comes out. |
Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance
709
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Posted - 2014.06.25 15:07:00 -
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There are like 10-15 games CCP has to compete with on PS4.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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