May I suggest somewhere in the academy you let the new players know that as soon as they graduate they need AV cause after playing in there I had no idea and wasted all my so on other stuff. If I would have known more about the real situation I would have done my skills much differently.

And I guess you ignore 5 enemy vehicles how? Sit back in the redline and use a sniper rifle?

Seriously me and several other players were pushing every which way to get out of the redline to no avail. Jeeps, drop ships other tanks cloaked scouts.

I must be playing a different game than you?

I had the exact opposite Dom experience yesterday, anecdotal of course, but still. Broke through a 4 tank line, turned the tables completely, claimed the point, lost it, won it again and held on.

This is why I love this game like no other, every action I took meant something, from switching to dedicated AV in the beginning, to establishing a footholdhold with armor hives and uplinks, to breaching with my Duvolle AR and finally to stand and defend in a Sentinel.

You must have a lot of SP.


A logi suit with hives and uplinks

A heavy sentinel suit, a duvolle

I would be happy to have a heavy suit and an advanced forge, I guess in a few months I can at least do one roll you have.

Seems legit unless you have millions of sp invested you can't do much in the game except die. OK I get it now.

Hmm maybe this game is not for me after all. I will keep trying but if the sentiment from the dev team is get good on 2.5 million SP

I just don't know what to say to that.

The one thing I do not understand about this community is that a good majority assume that vehicle users have either no gun play, or are simply bad at FPS games. I wonder if people ever considered the thought that some (or most) vehicle users were once mainly infantry in terms of playstyle, and decided to swtich it up a bit to keep things fresh.

I also do not understand why people assume that AV is still a complete joke. I do just fine with any ADV tier forge gun, and have no real reason to pull out proto varients...

I do not mean to be rude, but I wonder how much effort people actually bother to put into destroying vehicles. It's not meant to be strenuously difficult, but not especially easy either. There are still issues regarding swarm launchers and dropship resistances, which are unintended, but surely isn't the end of the world and needlessly needs to be complained about.

I'm a scout, sentinel, commando, part time logi, and Incubus pilot. I tend to favor well and usually place in the top 6, usually amongst other squad members and close friends, who also endeavor in both vehicles and infantry, and are exceptional in both departments.

Anecdotal indeed, here's my anecdotal evidence from Hotfix Alpha. I plan on recording another video for Hotfix Bravo but as this video indicates, don't have to worry so much about "helping cap objectives" when you control the majority of them in the first place.

EDIT: Bear in mind, I went negative about 100,000 ISK while the enemy team probably made a profit due to the pricing of vehicles versus AV infantry. The fact that our entire squad was dedicated AV that match and still had extreme difficulty just because of the -amount- of tanks we were facing, accompanied by infantry, made it nigh impossible to actually turn that match around.

Nah, he's a dumbass :)

Decent tanker tho :)



But seriously, it doesn't take a lot of SP to kill a tank. The less you have, of course, the harder it gets, but if I were to fit out a new olayer's AV setup it'd probably include Flux grenades, REs and an SL. Proxes too, if you can manage them.

Tactically, if you're running a scout suit then you can place the proxes on a heavily used road and camp them with an SL; try to make the driver aware that you're AVing him; you want him to think he's better off driving over the proxes than staying to fight.

If that's not possible, REs placed on the road detonated under a tank works nicely, in conjunction with some supplementary damage, as does placing them on the hull and doing the same (although the risks are rather greater of course).

Before firing the swarm launcher or detonating remotes, try to flux off as many shields as you can.


If you're a PLC user tactics are similar but you'll want AV nades instead of flux.

Don't expect to solo tanks easily with a single damage source until you get up to the Assault Forge Guns, especially the Ishukone. Which is to say that you should try to bring a reliable friend. (Even with IAFG it helps.)