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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.06.18 15:17:00 -
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*drama* LOL
OMS is generally a bit better with vehicles, there's usually a larger field in play, and there's enough time in the match to AV them down. IIRC, usually OMS matches actually spawn players decently apart from each other and such. All leaving OMS matches does is condemn the queue to constantly trying to fill them.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.06.18 16:24:00 -
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The problem is, leaving battle to all OMS matches does nothing but ruins the experience for ALL Ambush players. It ties the matchmaking system up constantly trying to refill the OMS matches, and ensures the OMS players get a worse experience through uneven and unfilled teams. Meanwhile, those wanting to play normal Ambush itself will have a harder time finding it because the matchmaking queue keeps trying to finish filling the OMS rooms.
Basically, you're telling everyone to ruin Ambush for everyone rather than advocate allowing the metrics from this patch to help determine where to go in the next one.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.06.18 17:29:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:The problem is, leaving battle to all OMS matches does nothing but ruins the experience for ALL Ambush players. It ties the matchmaking system up constantly trying to refill the OMS matches, and ensures the OMS players get a worse experience through uneven and unfilled teams. Meanwhile, those wanting to play normal Ambush itself will have a harder time finding it because the matchmaking queue keeps trying to finish filling the OMS rooms.
Basically, you're telling everyone to ruin Ambush for everyone rather than advocate allowing the metrics from this patch to help determine where to go in the next one. No one should play a game mode they do not like. If people want to leave. They should. I support anyone who finds an experience unenjoyable to abandon that experience. Are you seriously advocating people should play a mode they hate just so those in that mode, doing the things they hate, have a good time?
No. I'm pointing out that you will get more normal Ambush matches faster if people are just playing both. What you're promoting helps nobody.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.06.19 21:24:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:KEROSIINI-TERO wrote: the reason being that leavers ruin many games. So far we haven't had that infestation in dust so far (mainly due the win/loss rewards being so equal) So what are the options? I want to do an Ambush. I queue. Its OMS. I don't enjoy OMS. So... I should stay even though the current state of it is unenjoyable? It is the state of the game mode that causes people to leave. That is the base issue. My leaving is a symptom, not a cause. It's the secondary step in the causal chain you identify as existing, not the first step.
You leaving IS the cause. If people play Ambush/Ambush OMS normally, queuing will work normally. Which means, you'll have a better chance of getting normal Ambush, that match type you want. And furthermore, allowing queuing to working normally ensures that tankers have a lesser chance to get OMS, making them less likely to enter the Ambush queue, meaning you'll see less tankers even in Ambush OMS. Which means a better experience for you in OMS.
Ambush OMS will be more enjoyable if you just play it. And due to the queuing concerns I presented in my earlier post, you'll even get Ambush more often if you just play it.
So just freaking play it.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.06.19 21:30:00 -
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Funny enough, when I was playing last night, I never got put into OMS once. o_o
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Posted - 2014.06.19 22:00:00 -
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Gareth Verenar wrote:[You're so horribly wrong on all fronts Soraya Xel it's not even funny. 
Basic understanding of the queuing system proves that people like Judge are actually degrading the condition of their own gameplay so they can complain about it more. Unwillingness to try to use it as intended means he is not experiencing the intended result.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.06.20 02:19:00 -
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Gareth Verenar wrote:Soraya Xel wrote:Gareth Verenar wrote:[You're so horribly wrong on all fronts Soraya Xel it's not even funny. Basic understanding of the queuing system proves that people like Judge are actually degrading the condition of their own gameplay so they can complain about it more. Unwillingness to try to use it as intended means he is not experiencing the intended result. The only intended result should be the enjoyment of the player at the time of play.
Sure. My point is that he's ruining his own enjoyment, and then complaining that it's bad. He's defeating himself.
Yes, I'd like split queues too. I really hope CCP will consider a 1.9 patch so we can get that. But in the meantime, I will continue to point out silliness where I see it. And he's actually making it harder for himself to get into normal Ambush matches.
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Soraya Xel
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Posted - 2014.06.20 14:01:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Make up your mind. Is it :
a) The only intended result should be the enjoyment of the player at the time of play. or
b) So just freaking play it.
It cant be both but you seem to want to play both sides here.
If you can't understand what I'm explaining to you, I don't really know what to tell you. Your enjoyment at the time of play will be enhanced if you stop trying to game the system, and just play it.
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Posted - 2014.06.20 16:10:00 -
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Judge Rhadamanthus wrote:Soraya Xel wrote: Your enjoyment at the time of play will be enhanced if you stop trying to game the system, and just play it. Game the system? What are you going on about? Gaming the system is an exploitation of the rules to gain an advantage, How about you explain how you think I am exploiting the queue system and what advantage I gain over others using the queue system. Also how is playing a game mode I do not currently want to play enhancing my enjoyment? That statement makes no sense at all. Also you subscribed to too mutually exclusive statements. Which is it? a) The only intended result should be the enjoyment of the player at the time of play. or b) So just freaking play it.
Explained above, and asked and answered. I can't teach you reading/comprehension, man. The fact that you think those statements are mutually exclusive is demonstrating you don't understand what I said.
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