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H0riz0n Unlimit
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.06.17 06:32:00 -
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They need a nerf to their range. 300 metres is too much and idiots remain in red line with 2 or 3 dam mode,if they can shoot only 150 metres they still have an advantage on blaster but they have to move away from the redline;i know that forge will be op against them but i'm seeking tired of being killed by a tank that is quite in another distrect while i'm supporting my team (P.s. Sorry for bad english)
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.06.17 07:40:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote:Out of curiosity what vehicle or suit were you using when you were killed by the tank? For vehicles it is important to either stay away from their redline point when the rest of the map is controlled or have a friendly rail or forge engage him. Rail tankers didn't like the fact that they got their range reduced even though it was a justifiedroblem. Needing it more would be unnecessary. Madrugar blaster with ion cannon or gunlogi blaster is the same, the fact is that now you can't be sure that you win against militia tanks while in the past they were soon dead, the problem is that now everyone use a militia tankand in my opinion is unaccetable that they stayng in red linelet you have an impossible match...
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.06.17 08:17:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:H0riz0n Unlimit wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote:Out of curiosity what vehicle or suit were you using when you were killed by the tank? For vehicles it is important to either stay away from their redline point when the rest of the map is controlled or have a friendly rail or forge engage him. Rail tankers didn't like the fact that they got their range reduced even though it was a justifiedroblem. Needing it more would be unnecessary. Madrugar blaster with ion cannon or gunlogi blaster is the same, the fact is that now you can't be sure that you win against militia tanks while in the past they were soon dead, the problem is that now everyone use a militia tankand in my opinion is unaccetable that they stayng in red linelet you have an impossible match... if they nerfed the rail more there would be no way to shoot down assault dropships. if you are getting killed by redline rail tanks it might mean you are to close to the redline. so maybe std cannon and adv need a nerf ... I forgot ads
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.06.17 08:43:00 -
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In fact i really can't understand why they changed vehicles in 1.7
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.06.17 10:37:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:lol. The guy who sent me hatemail on my alt for killing them 5 times in a match with a railgun. Never happen and so if you are the best tanker in the world why don't you approve it ? are you one of this redline noob?
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.06.17 10:53:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:H0riz0n Unlimit wrote: Never happen and so if you are the best tanker in the world why don't you approve it ? are you one of this redline noob?
Because from one end of most maps to the other is usually between 600/1500 meters. Railguns are meant to engage their targets from range. Just be happy railguns no longer have 600 meter range like they did. So put rail range back so youcan eat an ice cream and two-shot a tank...mmm fantastic
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.06.17 11:38:00 -
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Maximos Forcus wrote:H0riz0n Unlimit wrote:THUNDERGROOVE wrote:H0riz0n Unlimit wrote: Never happen and so if you are the best tanker in the world why don't you approve it ? are you one of this redline noob?
Because from one end of most maps to the other is usually between 600/1500 meters. Railguns are meant to engage their targets from range. Just be happy railguns no longer have 600 meter range like they did. So put rail range back so youcan eat an ice cream and two-shot a tank...mmm fantastic Read the Bravo changes. And why are you engaging a redline tank? Is it affecting game play? Seems to me it is just another player not impacting the game results. Or do you want the kill, and get frustrated? Cause that happens to me, too. Then again, I am sometimes in the redline. Checking my best approach. Or when I am severely outnumbered. i' m not engaging redline tanks, i am sayng that every match in which there is not a jihad car magically appears a 2 dam mode sica or something similar that from 299,99 metres two-shot me and then he stay there all match long
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.06.17 12:14:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:once rail guns recive their over due reduction to base damage and re-fire rate reduction they will be effectively balanced. they will
have the range to kill dropships as well as the damage.
railguns will have to think twice about moveing to point blank ranges.
damage mods will suffer from stacking penalty and are having damge value % reduced. Thanks for the information
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.06.17 17:26:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:1. Damage mods are the problem, not the actual rail guns. A basic Sica with two damage mods and a militia rail gun can pop most anything if you get in the first shot. Either reduce the damage bonus/disable stacking mods or have a direct link between damage mods and reduced rate-of-fire (i.e. damage mod that increases damage by 30% results in a 30% slower RoF.)
2. Now that I'm actually messing around with tanks, I wouldn't be so quick to label rail gunners in the redline as "campers." If I bring in a rail tank it's due to the fact that I've either seen an enemy tank on the field or in the killfeed; obviously, the safest place to call it in is your redline. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean I'm just hanging back there to snipe at the enemy--I'm actually using the map (leaving me defenseless) to try and locate where the enemy tank is so that I can try and get the drop on him/her.
3. Railguns need MORE range, not LESS! I would gladly give up damage/rate of fire in return for the ability to actually destroy dropships that can now run unimpeded throughout the skies. Rail can have more range only if you get more hp on tanks, actually would mean give power to sica rail, but at the same time if ccp will nerf rail the ones who now are using 2 dam mode sica will came back to jihad cars because use a swarm or a forge id too difficult,for what concern ads in my opinion turrepts have to shot also just over the tank without a limit of inclination
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H0riz0n Unlimit
Nexus Balusa Horizon
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Posted - 2014.06.17 20:04:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:deezy dabest wrote:Railguns should have a total range a liitle over 400m but only deal 25% damage at that range.
The scale should look something like this to keep it simple:
0-150m = 100% damage 151m - 220m = 75% damage 221m - 349m = 50% damage 350m - 420m = 25% damage 421 + = 0% damage
This reduction should apply to total damage after damage mods and all are applied. I've advocated for drop-off damage at a rate of 1% for every 10 meters your shot goes; a railgun hitting a target at 500 meters would lose 50% of damage. If damage mods were reworked/replaced/removed, this could make railguns more of a defensive harassment weapon meant to keep enemy tanks at bay, while still making them dangerous in close-range combat. In another word op snd unattackable, a rail fight can go on from 2 different districts for about 2 match
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