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True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10660	Posted - 2014.06.16 11:11:00 - [1] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: And we told CCP it was a stupid and terrible idea and should have put efforts in the other suits besides making a useless, intrusive suit in the game. And CCP and it's muppets basically told us we didn't know what we were talking about and were just jumping to conclusions... Lets take a second to reflect on that. Then remember those foolish and brave souls who took those severely underwhelming suits, and they were pretty bad at the time, and made them powerful. Fire of Prometheus Aero Yassavi Grand Master Kubo Thanjac "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10661	Posted - 2014.06.16 11:27:00 - [2] - Quote Long Evity wrote: True Adamance wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: And we told CCP it was a stupid and terrible idea and should have put efforts in the other suits besides making a useless, intrusive suit in the game. And CCP and it's muppets basically told us we didn't know what we were talking about and were just jumping to conclusions... Lets take a second to reflect on that. Then remember those foolish and brave souls who took those severely underwhelming suits, and they were pretty bad at the time, and made them powerful. Fire of Prometheus Aero Yassavi Grand Master Kubo Thanjac Nope, still bad. Just pub stomping. There's literally no chance for your larger-hitbox, not quite enough health and no weapon to make up for it, suit to compete against PC ready suits and players. The Commandos role is rooftop camping and nothing else. Remember when CCP announced Commandos have no nade slot? Lets take a second to reflect upon that. I dunno I remember when Aldin Kan challenged Aero to a Commando off and got wrecked.....so much for superior PC player skill...... "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10662	Posted - 2014.06.16 11:41:00 - [3] - Quote Long Evity wrote: True Adamance wrote: Long Evity wrote: True Adamance wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: And we told CCP it was a stupid and terrible idea and should have put efforts in the other suits besides making a useless, intrusive suit in the game. And CCP and it's muppets basically told us we didn't know what we were talking about and were just jumping to conclusions... Lets take a second to reflect on that. Then remember those foolish and brave souls who took those severely underwhelming suits, and they were pretty bad at the time, and made them powerful. Fire of Prometheus Aero Yassavi Grand Master Kubo Thanjac Nope, still bad. Just pub stomping. There's literally no chance for your larger-hitbox, not quite enough health and no weapon to make up for it, suit to compete against PC ready suits and players. The Commandos role is rooftop camping and nothing else. Remember when CCP announced Commandos have no nade slot? Lets take a second to reflect upon that. I dunno I remember when Aldin Kan challenged Aero to a Commando off and got wrecked.....so much for superior PC player skill...... II hope you're not basing that crapy line of suits off a single confrontation. Care to face me 1v1? I'll even use STD vs your PROTO to prove a point. It's not like this wouldn't be the 10th or so try a commando suit user says he's decent because of lolpubs. Not that 1v1 vs commando is fair, what a crappy suit. Depends on how you want to play it..... personally me duking it our with you up close and personal is not how the Amarr Commando is meant to be played. I personally find the Commando suit to be a great line of suits, they have all the things I want in a suit, DPS, heavy Armour, and Secondary Light Weapon slot for adaptability. Sorry if I don't take you at your word when you say PC is the be all end all, last I checked it was a cesspit of Rail Tank playing safe at the redline, nades left right and centre, Combat rifles everwhere, etc,etc, etc. Been in PC before, its not all its cracked up to be and neither are the self aggrandising players who base their egotistical personas off of it. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10675	Posted - 2014.06.16 20:00:00 - [4] - Quote CHANCEtheChAn wrote: Long Evity wrote: I'll take this as a joke reply, of course PC is the do all be all in this game. If you aren't good you won't survive, no team will want to continue carrying someone not keeping up. And, last I checked, you barely PC. Ever. Lol Saying the commando is adaptable because of two weapons is also a stretch. The SMG is powerful, easily replaces AR. How is that + any other weapon combo you make any different? The weapon balance isn't there to make commandos worth it and your stats make it even harder. Commandos have no real place in this game. Meh not meant to be the bearer of bad news But honestly the ONLY role of a commando is A/V specialist Whether you are in pubs or PC A medium/light frame having to bring out swarms makes them basically useless PvP A heavy suit bringing out a forge gun makes him basically a tank with an SMG for PvP A commando on the other hand can carry hives in his equipment slot and swarms on his back with a rifle in hand to be effective vs infantry in combat And as soon as that **** Soma/ADS roles up, the commando throws down the hive and unleashes the swarm (Quite literally) If your running a Commando without swarms as your secondary your doing it wrong Commando is a support role (Not enough HP to counter a sentinel, not enough speed to beat an assault frame, not enough equipment slots to beat a logi, not enough stealth to beat a scout) Therefore all that's left seems pretty logical to me If you have a squad of 6 of all other classes and one commando Your **** when that X-t 1 middle ADS roles up and kills all your teammates All when you could have just simply put a swarm launcher in the second slow slot Feel bad for giving out trade secrets but oh well Heed them wisely Yeah I shall definitely listen to you over all six of those players who picked it up, proto'd it, and were wrecking people long before the damage increase and its resurgence..... no the Commando is not about two damage types or Swarm AV capacity though those are very good reasons to pick up the suit. I wouldn't even consider the Commando suit an AV unit most of the time though I only use the Amarr Commando due to PIE Inc regulations. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10678	Posted - 2014.06.16 20:35:00 - [5] - Quote Aero did you just.....hashtag......AND lay out a Get good? SCHNAP SHOTS FIRED! "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10679	Posted - 2014.06.16 21:08:00 - [6] - Quote Long Evity wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Long Evity wrote: The Commandos role is rooftop camping and nothing else. Oh come on, the Commando role never was limited to rooftop camping even when it was a terrible suit. If that's all you could use it for, well, then #getgood Also everyone who says Commando is an AV specialist, I do not believe you ever put much time into the suit. AV specialist is what I thought of it at first, but it is pretty underwhelming in that role and can do much, much better as an anti-infantry wrecker. Similarly, everyone who says the commando is about using weapons with different damage profiles also clearly hasn't put much time into the suit. Again, we can solo to prove my point if you want. I don't mind. My main is SoTa PoP. :3 Commando does not do well under fire, too big of a hitbox making him too easy of a target, and when you receive hits it jukes your gun. Your strafe is also weaker. Everything about your suit works against you in range combat. Your enemy will be both smaller and more agile. This is why Commandos should be on roofs, take what advantages they can get from terrain. So we fundamentally disagree about positioning which is fair, but I have to agree on you about speed and frame size....this however doesn't make them uncompetitive as with the full 10% extra damage and faster reload speeds makes you significantly more sustainable in long fire fights. Also Sota you know if you come at me and Aero its going to end in all your hexes being absorbed by the Red Autocratic East Europan Imperial Alliance. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10682	Posted - 2014.06.16 21:33:00 - [7] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Don't forget the Hash-Tagkon Imperium of Beige Don't forget the Tash-Murkon of Beige! "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10685	Posted - 2014.06.16 21:46:00 - [8] - Quote Long Evity wrote: True Adamance wrote: Long Evity wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Long Evity wrote: The Commandos role is rooftop camping and nothing else. Oh come on, the Commando role never was limited to rooftop camping even when it was a terrible suit. If that's all you could use it for, well, then #getgood Also everyone who says Commando is an AV specialist, I do not believe you ever put much time into the suit. AV specialist is what I thought of it at first, but it is pretty underwhelming in that role and can do much, much better as an anti-infantry wrecker. Similarly, everyone who says the commando is about using weapons with different damage profiles also clearly hasn't put much time into the suit. Again, we can solo to prove my point if you want. I don't mind. My main is SoTa PoP. :3 Commando does not do well under fire, too big of a hitbox making him too easy of a target, and when you receive hits it jukes your gun. Your strafe is also weaker. Everything about your suit works against you in range combat. Your enemy will be both smaller and more agile. This is why Commandos should be on roofs, take what advantages they can get from terrain. So we fundamentally disagree about positioning which is fair, but I have to agree on you about speed and frame size....this however doesn't make them uncompetitive as with the full 10% extra damage and faster reload speeds makes you significantly more sustainable in long fire fights. Also Sota you know if you come at me and Aero its going to end in all your hexes being absorbed by the Red Autocratic East Europan Imperial Alliance. All my hexes absorbed by the Red Autocratic East European Imperial Alliance? The hex is that lol Slay was the ** when we got all 6 of us playing until Beach Alliance came and **** us all up....... bloody Blue and Yellow. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon

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