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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.06.12 23:38:00 -
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I know of the Amarr assault getting a buff, but I couldn't find any other info.
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.06.12 23:50:00 -
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They mentioned that a complete rework of the slot layouts was planned for a future hotfix...
But the main reason they're adding the additional low slot for the Amarr assault was because every other assault had 7 slots, while the Amarr had only 6
The Amarr Logi has one less slot only because it has a sidearm, but I think they forgot about that when making the Assault version.
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.06.13 00:07:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:They mentioned that a complete rework of the slot layouts was planned for a future hotfix...
But the main reason they're adding the additional low slot for the Amarr assault was because every other assault had 7 slots, while the Amarr had only 6
The Amarr Logi has one less slot only because it has a sidearm, but I think they forgot about that when making the Assault version. I'm cool with that, but I'm hoping the Cal/Gal get a CPU/PG buff and I have no idea what to do with the Minny Assault.
Not to mention I think all Assaults need a ehp buff.
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Posted - 2014.06.13 00:15:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote: I'm cool with that, but I'm hoping the Cal/Gal get a CPU/PG buff and I have no idea what to do with the Minny Assault.
Switching the Cal and Min slot layouts seems like the most obvious thing to do.
Although I don't understand why they need a buff to fittings, as they already have the skill bonus towards fitting weapons.
I think that with the new shield buffs, it will be more viable to drop down one complex to one enhanced extender (instead of taking up so much space with 3+ complex shields)...and the recharger buffs will do the same thing in terms of not having to use complex modules that take up so much cpu.
I'm gonna wait until Bravo before I make any real decisions though.
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2014.06.13 00:21:00 -
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I'd prefer a damage bonus or rof. I'd also say change the highs/lows with the logi but I fear that might hurt logis to much.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.06.13 00:46:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:They mentioned that a complete rework of the slot layouts was planned for a future hotfix...
But the main reason they're adding the additional low slot for the Amarr assault was because every other assault had 7 slots, while the Amarr had only 6
The Amarr Logi has one less slot only because it has a sidearm, but I think they forgot about that when making the Assault version.
Amarr Slot layout really should be 2/5 with slightly less PG to balance out in favour of the increased armour module slots
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.06.13 01:26:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Cody Sietz wrote: I'm cool with that, but I'm hoping the Cal/Gal get a CPU/PG buff and I have no idea what to do with the Minny Assault.
Switching the Cal and Min slot layouts seems like the most obvious thing to do. Although I don't understand why they need a buff to fittings, as they already have the skill bonus towards fitting weapons. I think that with the new shield buffs, it will be more viable to drop down one complex to one enhanced extender (instead of taking up so much space with 3+ complex shields)...and the recharger buffs will do the same thing in terms of not having to use complex modules that take up so much cpu. I'm gonna wait until Bravo before I make any real decisions though. Just because the Cal/Gal have the lower CPU/PG of every single Proto suit across all tiers. 394/79 with max skills.
Not to mention the CPU/PG increase to plates(which was meant to make them least attractive to scouts) hurt assaults a bit.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2014.06.13 02:45:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:They mentioned that a complete rework of the slot layouts was planned for a future hotfix...
But the main reason they're adding the additional low slot for the Amarr assault was because every other assault had 7 slots, while the Amarr had only 6
The Amarr Logi has one less slot only because it has a sidearm, but I think they forgot about that when making the Assault version. It not only has less module slots, but also less equipment; the gains vs losses is not justified.
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.06.13 03:51:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:They mentioned that a complete rework of the slot layouts was planned for a future hotfix...
But the main reason they're adding the additional low slot for the Amarr assault was because every other assault had 7 slots, while the Amarr had only 6
The Amarr Logi has one less slot only because it has a sidearm, but I think they forgot about that when making the Assault version. It not only has less module slots, but also less equipment; the gains vs losses is not justified. It gains a sidearm...I think that is a pretty good bonus.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2014.06.13 03:54:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:They mentioned that a complete rework of the slot layouts was planned for a future hotfix...
But the main reason they're adding the additional low slot for the Amarr assault was because every other assault had 7 slots, while the Amarr had only 6
The Amarr Logi has one less slot only because it has a sidearm, but I think they forgot about that when making the Assault version. It not only has less module slots, but also less equipment; the gains vs losses is not justified. It gains a sidearm...I think that is a pretty good bonus. A sidearm at the cost of both an equipment slot AND a module slot? one of those tradeoffs would have been fair, not both.
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.06.13 03:59:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:They mentioned that a complete rework of the slot layouts was planned for a future hotfix...
But the main reason they're adding the additional low slot for the Amarr assault was because every other assault had 7 slots, while the Amarr had only 6
The Amarr Logi has one less slot only because it has a sidearm, but I think they forgot about that when making the Assault version. It not only has less module slots, but also less equipment; the gains vs losses is not justified. It gains a sidearm...I think that is a pretty good bonus. A sidearm at the cost of both an equipment slot AND a module slot? one of those tradeoffs would have been fair, not both. Doesn't it also have the CPU/PG?
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.06.13 04:15:00 -
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I want the overall Gallente Assault Bonus to be a RoF bonus. The Caldari Assault needs to have a Shield Extender Bonus The Minmitar Assault should have a Regen and Depletion bonus (Shields) and 1 hp/s armor regen.
I'm fine with Amarr having one less slot as long as they get a huge health boost but if not give them an extra low slot.
All of these bonuses would keep in line with the Assaults being the aggressive playstyle.
Even when Legion comes around you can easily move the mentioned bonuses to just suit stats and then include the Damage bonus and two light weapons.
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Posted - 2014.06.13 04:29:00 -
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.06.14 22:33:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I want the overall Gallente Assault Bonus to be a RoF bonus. The Caldari Assault needs to have a Shield Extender Bonus The Minmitar Assault should have a Regen and Depletion bonus (Shields) and 1 hp/s armor regen.
I'm fine with Amarr having one less slot as long as they get a huge health boost but if not give them an extra low slot.
All of these bonuses would keep in line with the Assaults being the aggressive playstyle.
Even when Legion comes around you can easily move the mentioned bonuses to just suit stats and then include the Damage bonus and two light weapons. I like all of them, but I feel like giving us a RoF bonus would quickly turn the GalAssault and AR into a super FoTM and be OP.
My poor ole GalScout felt the nerf hammer hard, I don't wanna see it happen to my other suits(I can guarantee we will see a nerf to the GalHeavy before the Amarr Heavy)
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Harpyja
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Posted - 2014.06.14 22:58:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:They mentioned that a complete rework of the slot layouts was planned for a future hotfix...
But the main reason they're adding the additional low slot for the Amarr assault was because every other assault had 7 slots, while the Amarr had only 6
The Amarr Logi has one less slot only because it has a sidearm, but I think they forgot about that when making the Assault version. I'm cool with that, but I'm hoping the Cal/Gal get a CPU/PG buff and I have no idea what to do with the Minny Assault. Not to mention I think all Assaults need a ehp buff. I think 30 more base armor to the Amarr assault (and Amarr basic mediums) would be a good start. That gives it 60 more base armor than Gallente (iirc) and with max armor skills is 75 armor on top of Gallente, almost a basic armor plate and thus makes it slowest speed more justifiable.
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Harpyja
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Posted - 2014.06.14 23:01:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:They mentioned that a complete rework of the slot layouts was planned for a future hotfix...
But the main reason they're adding the additional low slot for the Amarr assault was because every other assault had 7 slots, while the Amarr had only 6
The Amarr Logi has one less slot only because it has a sidearm, but I think they forgot about that when making the Assault version. It not only has less module slots, but also less equipment; the gains vs losses is not justified. It gains a sidearm...I think that is a pretty good bonus. A sidearm at the cost of both an equipment slot AND a module slot? one of those tradeoffs would have been fair, not both. Doesn't it also have the CPU/PG? But theoretically, that extra CPU/PG is for the capability of fitting the more resource-intensive laser weaponry.
I think that every suit should have a skill bonus to that race's weapon system, that way a suit meant to use more resource-intensive weaponry is encouraged to use those weapons instead of using something that costs less to fit and thus give it more leftover CPU/PG than other suits.
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.06.14 23:54:00 -
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Harpyja wrote: But theoretically, that extra CPU/PG is for the capability of fitting the more resource-intensive laser weaponry.
I think that every suit should have a skill bonus to that race's weapon system, that way a suit meant to use more resource-intensive weaponry is encouraged to use those weapons instead of using something that costs less to fit and thus give it more leftover CPU/PG than other suits.
That made sense before the ScR got a PG reduction and before the new bonus that lowers all fitting cost.
Gallente had that bonus before, so in theory, the suit kind of lost some fittings.
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HYENAKILLER X
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Posted - 2014.06.15 02:01:00 -
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I say give assaults range bonus. Increase breach ar rof and put a scope on it so its equal with the other rifles.
Bonus rep per sec is also a good idea. As for damage buff, not sure its even needed now that the ar is back.
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2014.06.15 02:03:00 -
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HYENAKILLER X wrote:I say give assaults range bonus. Increase breach ar rof and put a scope on it so its equal with the other rifles.
Bonus rep per sec is also a good idea. As for damage buff, not sure its even needed now that the ar is back. All rifles should have a scope tbh
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.06.15 04:12:00 -
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Heimdallr69 wrote:HYENAKILLER X wrote:I say give assaults range bonus. Increase breach ar rof and put a scope on it so its equal with the other rifles.
Bonus rep per sec is also a good idea. As for damage buff, not sure its even needed now that the ar is back. All rifles should have a scope tbh I think that's more a personal preference thing tho. I like the iron sights on the AR and hate the Acog looking thing.
A buddy of mine liked the LR before they changed the sights in 1.8
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.06.15 07:03:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:They mentioned that a complete rework of the slot layouts was planned for a future hotfix...
But the main reason they're adding the additional low slot for the Amarr assault was because every other assault had 7 slots, while the Amarr had only 6
The Amarr Logi has one less slot only because it has a sidearm, but I think they forgot about that when making the Assault version. Amarr Slot layout really should be 2/5 with slightly less PG to balance out in favour of the increased armour module slots
Slightly... less PG.
Yes, having more low slots to consume huge amounts of PG does logically extend to reducing total PG counts.
So does having the most PG-draining weapon in the game.
Now, a CPU nerf I could probably get behind.
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Harpyja
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Posted - 2014.06.15 13:40:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:True Adamance wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:They mentioned that a complete rework of the slot layouts was planned for a future hotfix...
But the main reason they're adding the additional low slot for the Amarr assault was because every other assault had 7 slots, while the Amarr had only 6
The Amarr Logi has one less slot only because it has a sidearm, but I think they forgot about that when making the Assault version. Amarr Slot layout really should be 2/5 with slightly less PG to balance out in favour of the increased armour module slots Slightly... less PG. Yes, having more low slots to consume huge amounts of PG does logically extend to reducing total PG counts. So does having the most PG-draining weapon in the game. Now, a CPU nerf I could probably get behind. Dem armor reps doe. Cost almost as much as extenders.
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Cody Sietz
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Posted - 2014.06.18 14:53:00 -
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Harpyja wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:True Adamance wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:They mentioned that a complete rework of the slot layouts was planned for a future hotfix...
But the main reason they're adding the additional low slot for the Amarr assault was because every other assault had 7 slots, while the Amarr had only 6
The Amarr Logi has one less slot only because it has a sidearm, but I think they forgot about that when making the Assault version. Amarr Slot layout really should be 2/5 with slightly less PG to balance out in favour of the increased armour module slots Slightly... less PG. Yes, having more low slots to consume huge amounts of PG does logically extend to reducing total PG counts. So does having the most PG-draining weapon in the game. Now, a CPU nerf I could probably get behind. Dem armor reps doe. Cost almost as much as extenders. Tell me about, my GalAssault can barely fit 2.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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