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![TunRa TunRa](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
TunRa
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.12 05:02:00 -
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Can we finally rename the assault rifle to the plasma rifle? You even put plasma rifle into the numbers for hotfix bravo!
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![Apothecary Za'ki Apothecary Za'ki](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_minmatar_128.jpg)
Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
46
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Posted - 2014.06.12 13:09:00 -
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i somewhat agree, weapons need a more clear definition of what weapon type they are as im still perplexed as to weather AR is blaster type or projectile type.. im just working off the assumption since gallente = blasters in EVE they mean AR=blaster in dust
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![Lorhak Gannarsein Lorhak Gannarsein](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3476
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Posted - 2014.06.12 13:12:00 -
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Apparently he doesn't want to do it because of potential ripples with skill effects and things like that.
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![ResistanceGTA ResistanceGTA](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1275
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Posted - 2014.06.12 14:10:00 -
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Yea, we don't want to change the name because of having to change descriptions and skills and what not.
Though calling it the Plasma Rifle seems to be Rattati's thing, as he labels it as such.
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![TunRa TunRa](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_minmatar_128.jpg)
TunRa
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
650
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Posted - 2014.06.12 18:15:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:Yea, we don't want to change the name because of having to change descriptions and skills and what not.
Though calling it the Plasma Rifle seems to be Rattati's thing, as he labels it as such. So they don't want to change it because they are lazy? Alright.
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![Cyrus Grevare Cyrus Grevare](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Cyrus Grevare
warravens Final Resolution.
225
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Posted - 2014.06.12 20:10:00 -
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68 entries on the last SDE for 'Assault Rifle' going from item names to descriptions to skill entries, if the change was only needed there it would be relatively easy, but there could be more obscure code that references to the NAME instead of typeIDs.
Changing the name in the database without testing it could break more than it's worth, now with the shortage of hands there might not be someone with the required expertise on board to make the changes if it entails tweaking in places other than the database.
Also time might be a factor, meaningful hotfixes are coming at a rapid pace so I agree with Rattati on it being more important, this from a supporter of the name Plasma Rifle :)
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![Arkena Wyrnspire Arkena Wyrnspire](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_gallente_128.jpg)
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.06.12 22:11:00 -
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@Cyrus - Thank you for the more informed opinion.
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![Goat of Dover Goat of Dover](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_gallente_128.jpg)
Goat of Dover
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.12 22:28:00 -
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I think it would help new players just a little most see assault rifle and go yea I like that, but then it really turns out to be the shortest range rifle in the game. Quite different than where they probably came from.
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![CCP Logibro CCP Logibro](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
CCP Logibro
C C P C C P Alliance
8116
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Posted - 2014.06.12 22:39:00 -
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When we have a choice spending time renaming the Assault Rifle to the Plasma Rifle (including localisation!) or fixing something else, the preference is to fix something else. We support changing it, it's just a matter of priority at the moment.
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
2597
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Posted - 2014.06.12 22:49:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:i somewhat agree, weapons need a more clear definition of what weapon type they are as im still perplexed as to weather AR is blaster type or projectile type.. im just working off the assumption since gallente = blasters in EVE they mean AR=blaster in dust
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![I-Shayz-I I-Shayz-I](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/female_minmatar_128.jpg)
I-Shayz-I
I-----I
3662
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Posted - 2014.06.12 23:37:00 -
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The basic answer to this is that there are so many places in the game where the name "Assault Rifle" is used, that trying to track down and find all of these instances (and then changing them in the code), would just be more work than it needs to be.
Not to mention that the Assault Rifle is the most common item in the game (there are more blueprints and variants of the AR than any other weapon).
While yes they could probably just change the AR to the PR for the item names and skills, it would cause some confusion for new players when it comes to descriptions and what not.
You also have to remember that the SMG, HMG, Sniper Rifle, and Combat Rifle are all generic names too. While they might not be as much of an issue, it just goes to show that re-naming these things isn't as important as making the game actually work. CCP agrees about that as well.
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![medomai grey medomai grey](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
medomai grey
warravens Final Resolution.
809
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Posted - 2014.06.12 23:50:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:When we have a choice spending time renaming the Assault Rifle to the Plasma Rifle (including localisation!) or fixing something else, the preference is to fix something else. We support changing it, it's just a matter of priority at the moment. I'm going to assume that there's a lot more complications involved that your not telling us. Because from my limited past experience with programing, replacing a name with another name within an entire program should take less than 5 minutes. ![Straight](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_straight.png)
1. Copy and paste the code to Word or some similar program. 2. Use the find and replace tools to find all instances of "assault rifle" and replace with "plasma rifle". 3. Copy and paste the code back to where ever it came from.
Again, my experience with programing is very limited and I don't know if there's complications preventing it from being that easy.
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![Ryder Azorria Ryder Azorria](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_amarr_128.jpg)
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1005
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Posted - 2014.06.13 01:26:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:When we have a choice spending time renaming the Assault Rifle to the Plasma Rifle (including localisation!) or fixing something else, the preference is to fix something else. We support changing it, it's just a matter of priority at the moment. I'm going to assume that there's a lot more complications involved that your not telling us. Because from my limited past experience with programing, replacing a name with another name within an entire program should take less than 5 minutes. ![Straight](https://forums.dust514.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_straight.png) 1. Copy and paste the code to Word or some similar program. 2. Use the find and replace tools to find all instances of "assault rifle" and replace with "plasma rifle". 3. Copy and paste the code back to where ever it came from. Again, my experience with programing is very limited and I don't know if there's complications preventing it from being that easy. You don't need to use word, but yes, in theory it should just be a simple find and replace job - though it'd take more than five minutes as I imagine there are several different databases and the like that would also need updated.
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![CCP Rattati CCP Rattati](https://web.ccpgamescdn.com/dust/img/character_creator/male_caldari_128.jpg)
CCP Rattati
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.13 01:47:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:The basic answer to this is that there are so many places in the game where the name "Assault Rifle" is used, that trying to track down and find all of these instances (and then changing them in the code), would just be more work than it needs to be.
Not to mention that the Assault Rifle is the most common item in the game (there are more blueprints and variants of the AR than any other weapon).
While yes they could probably just change the AR to the PR for the item names and skills, it would cause some confusion for new players when it comes to descriptions and what not.
You also have to remember that the SMG, HMG, Sniper Rifle, and Combat Rifle are all generic names too. While they might not be as much of an issue, it just goes to show that re-naming these things isn't as important as making the game actually work. CCP agrees about that as well.
Exactly, I have answered this before.
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ResistanceGTA
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.06.13 01:53:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:The basic answer to this is that there are so many places in the game where the name "Assault Rifle" is used, that trying to track down and find all of these instances (and then changing them in the code), would just be more work than it needs to be.
Not to mention that the Assault Rifle is the most common item in the game (there are more blueprints and variants of the AR than any other weapon).
While yes they could probably just change the AR to the PR for the item names and skills, it would cause some confusion for new players when it comes to descriptions and what not.
You also have to remember that the SMG, HMG, Sniper Rifle, and Combat Rifle are all generic names too. While they might not be as much of an issue, it just goes to show that re-naming these things isn't as important as making the game actually work. CCP agrees about that as well. Exactly, I have answered this before.
Meanwhile, the Imperial Commando Ak.0 still has 3 weapon slots...
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m621 zma
Seraphim Initiative..
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Posted - 2014.06.15 12:01:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:The basic answer to this is that there are so many places in the game where the name "Assault Rifle" is used, that trying to track down and find all of these instances (and then changing them in the code), would just be more work than it needs to be.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3559
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Posted - 2014.06.15 16:35:00 -
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m621 zma wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:The basic answer to this is that there are so many places in the game where the name "Assault Rifle" is used, that trying to track down and find all of these instances (and then changing them in the code), would just be more work than it needs to be. Have you never heard of 'find and replace'?
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