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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.10 08:59:00 -
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Read this
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/02/sorry-to-say-it-but-keyboard-and-mouse-are-losing-the-fps-market/
But hey live in denial al you want it's okey.
Troll way =ƒÿÄ
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.10 09:53:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:If you was CCP and just spent millions on a game you scrapped and most of your dedicated player base was on PC and another game you was creating couldn't reach it potential on a console would you.....
A: Re create the game on a platform that has no constraints, where 98%+ of your player base is and you don't have to worry about the platforms life cycle within 8 years. Your top game is also on this platform and you want to link both your games together.
B: Re create the game on a platform where you have a tiny player base of players (most of whom hate you now anyway) and most new players won't even know of the game you are trying to link this game with. You have to use a 3rd party network that means you can't realistically link both games because updates, patches and hotfixes would take longer and this platform will be out of date within 8 years and is already out of date by your preferred platforms standard.
You actually belive al that nonsense ?
Al and I mean al that have any insight in gaming, are al saying PC and KBM are shrinking. You may not like this you may even say that PC are more mothern/better etc etc it does not matter. Fact : PC gaming market is smaler that console and now even FPS are smaler on PC.
THATS the hard fact. THATS what CCP turned there back to. Of course the PC market is still big and have potential.
Have a look at the industry. A decade ( give or take a few years ) ago the biggest game franchises was PC games. Over the ps3 and Xbox 360 life time that have slowly shifted. Now the biggest games are console the most sales of games are also console. And that regardless of the fact that PC hardware are always going to have a edge and be bette.
To quote the link
"The point is that the players are dependent on the developers. If the developers start developing only for consoles or controllers, it won't matter how much you want to play with kb/mouse/PC... the games won't be there."
Any way I belive that was a good read withourt personal opinions of preference. It just list numbers and facts, you may not like those facts and numbers but they point towards somthing regardless personal opinion.
Regards
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.10 10:19:00 -
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Himiko Kuronaga wrote:This was a bad article that used peak concurrent numbers on launch day for console games in direct comparison to average numbers on older PC games. It also attempts to combine total game sales between all consoles as a singular figure for overcoming PC sales as a business argument, when the reality is that developing for each individual platform has its own development costs associated with it, thus negating that argument in its entirety. Developing for PC is cheaper and, assuming the numbers are correct, the return on PC would be greater for a lot of games. I'm all for putting Legion on console (especially the PS4, as it is currently has a massive install base with no games to play on it), but this article was crammed with bullshit.
So what's the truth are whatever out there ? That PC gaming is dominating the market? That the overall PC sales are increasing? That pure gaming PC rigs are also becoming more and more common?
Idk about the states but in Sweden the last 5 years the decline of sales of PC and PC rigs have forced many pure PC stores out of business. And pure gaming stores sell more console products than PC products. This is stated by the Confederation of Swedish Enterprise in 2012.
It may be other trends out there in other countries. I doubt that =ƒÿÄ
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.10 10:28:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Conclusions are drawn from the wrong data.
At any given moment hundreds of thousands are playing LoL and DotA 2. Probably more than 1M.
Why do they play games like these on PC? Because they don't exist on console.
The markets reached by BF4 and CoD are pathetic, across all consoles collectively, compared to DotA or LoL even individually.
The reason, then, that FPSes are a hit on console?
They're the only game you can play. RPG, RTS, sim... The only genre I can think of that is better played on console is fighting games.
That is literally it.
~ A Console Gamer
Read the link bro... Al of it
I will qoute a part. ( again) for you.
"I think some of the commenters who are using analogies like "Ferrari vs. Ford Focus" are missing a critical point: Of course there will always be people who have the budget and desire to play using kb/mouse on an expensive rig. But cars aren't a good analogy because the problem is the availability of the GAMES. It doesn't matter if you are willing to buy that PC and use it, if your market segment is so small that the developers abandon it. The car analogy would be if a Ferrari required special Ferrari fuel to run. If it did, guess what... the market for Ferrari's would pretty much vanish.
The point is that the players are dependent on the developers. If the developers start developing only for consoles or controllers, it won't matter how much you want to play with kb/mouse/PC... the games won't be there."
Kind of sums you post up? Maybe ! Almost ? lol
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.10 10:49:00 -
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Haerr wrote:Oroa sig inte Piraten, jag kommer i alla fall att spela Legion n+ñr det sl+ñpps till datorn! :-)
Om det sl+ñps till datorn =ƒÿé
Inget fel i att gilla att spela spel p+Ñ en dator.
Sj+ñlv kommer jag spela destiny p+Ñ min 128 tummare med fult bio ljud samt en f+Ñt+¦lj man kan d+¦ i. Har +¦l i kran i samma rum samt popcorn maskin...i samma rum
Ja jag har en dator kopplat till allt som man bara kunde dr+¦mma om som grabb =ƒÿï
Fast nu +ñr jag ute med min 64 princess.... Gotland n+ñsta =ƒÿå..., eller +àland
Tut tut =ƒÜú
PS har en ps3 i b+Ñten HAHAHA
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.10 11:36:00 -
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More complicated than BF3?
Dude I don't know if you are trolling or serious?
It does not matter really, it's hilarious to have ppl pulling out statements like that like a rabbit out of a hat. This is not about if PC a better platform or not than a console.
Lets once and for just make it clear PC will always be better than console hardware wise, it always has and will always be that.
But still the PC market is in decline and console is growing it's just a fact. You may putt your bet on that PC will make a big return or something, but nothing and I mean nothing is showing that regardless if some games are bigger on this or that platform, the overall tendency in the industry is pretty clear.
This is not saying that PC games will go away any time soon or even at al, however just stating that "PC is the better market and has more potential" ( or similar ) are to be TOTALY blind on what's going on.
Legion may be a huge PC success, it might even become the game of the year. But regardless I believe ( personal opinion now ) if it does that it will be remembered as one of the last AWSOME games on PC.
Oh and you may disagree it's okey =ƒÿé
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.10 12:12:00 -
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RogueTrooper 2000AD wrote:Op is dumb and trolling or just dumb.
Maybe a bit of both
Al I can do when my argument don't stick is to flame and cal my adversary dumb.
Oh wait... I did not do that
=ƒÿÄ
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Piraten Hovnoret
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.10 12:32:00 -
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LAVALLOIS Nash wrote:just cause something is mediocre enough to have mass market application does not make it a superior platform. Kbm is the standard of excellence. Controller is the outreach to the unsophisticated or inexperienced. Thats why every console FPS is pared with aim assist. Its meant to take the thinking power out of something and dumb it down to shapes and color coded buttons.
You know, I see more Toyota Corolla than BMW M3s around. Does that mean the Toyota is a superior car? No, it just means its a simpler, cheaper car for a simpler, cheaper market base.
Yeah but to state "because you are cheaper I am better and you don't matter" does not really work either does it?
My self I drive a Toyota, no I mean a extremely expensive Lexus.
Buy the way are not Toyota bigger and have a bigger profit then BMW ? =ƒÿï ( did not look into that so I may be wrong )
I apologise my intention was not to troll you bro.
Ps wife drives a BMW m3 =ƒÿÄ
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