DUST Search - [Suggestion] Flaylock Buff

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

PLAYSTTION wrote:

Ghost Kaisar wrote:

Buff Splash to 1.5 , 1.75, 2.0

Buff Direct Damage to 250, 275, 300

Buff Splash to 150, 175, 200

Never ever touch the ROF. NEVER AGAIN.

Apart from that, these changes will suffice. Splash makes it a bit easier to use, but the real buff is in direct damage.

With Explosive damage buff and proficiency, you can deal ~405 damage a shot to armor. Enough to make any Armor tanker rue the day he met you.

Yeah i agree with you but I think it should have a 2-3m splash radius and the damage you showed. maybe a little more for splash.

These numbers might be higher than the original flay lock but i dunno.

2.5m splash radius.

150, 200, 250 splash damage.

250, 300, 350 direct damage.

You HAVE to make sure that splash is kept low. If you don't it just gets spammed.

200 is perfect, it means that to kill the average dropsuit, you have to land three splash shots, which is the full clip.

But the real POWER of the flaylock needs to be in direct hits. I actually like the higher numbers you have posted.

If people start complaining about how these "Direct Shots" are OP, I might quit Dust. Direct shots are insanely hard to pull of at ANY distance.

Pages: 1 2 :: [one page]

Author	Thread Statistics \| Show CCP posts - 0 post(s)
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 165	Posted - 2014.06.09 22:56:00 - [1] - Quote Thats right. Read the title i think this is long overdue. I suggest a huge radius buff and a 50hp or more damage buff. Ill check the stats and write a more detailed suggestion. Please put your suggestions. 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 23mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 364	Posted - 2014.06.10 00:50:00 - [2] - Quote 25% buff to all damage 2.5 m blast radius as base for all tiers Kills-Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
BL4CKST4R WarRavens Final Resolution. 2762	Posted - 2014.06.10 01:27:00 - [3] - Quote Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: 25% buff to all damage 2.5 m blast radius as base for all tiers HELLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THATS LIKE REVERSING THE NERF TO THE FLAYLOCK AND THEN BUFFING THE OLD FLAYLOCK ARE YOU INSANE? supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 367	Posted - 2014.06.10 02:33:00 - [4] - Quote BL4CKST4R wrote: Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: 25% buff to all damage 2.5 m blast radius as base for all tiers HELLLLLLL NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THATS LIKE REVERSING THE NERF TO THE FLAYLOCK AND THEN BUFFING THE OLD FLAYLOCK ARE YOU INSANE? yes. 26-2 ambush with militia minmitar heavy, no relevant skills 9-3 proto minmitar scout Scount OP nurf it to grownd
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 367	Posted - 2014.06.10 02:34:00 - [5] - Quote it'd almost be like asking for a buff to gallente frames and the AR 26-2 ambush with militia minmitar heavy, no relevant skills 9-3 proto minmitar scout Scount OP nurf it to grownd
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5167	Posted - 2014.06.10 05:31:00 - [6] - Quote Buff Splash to 1.5 , 1.75, 2.0 Buff Direct Damage to 250, 275, 300 Buff Splash to 150, 175, 200 Never ever touch the ROF. NEVER AGAIN. Apart from that, these changes will suffice. Splash makes it a bit easier to use, but the real buff is in direct damage. With Explosive damage buff and proficiency, you can deal ~405 damage a shot to armor. Enough to make any Armor tanker rue the day he met you. Headed to Destiny, To Hell with CCP PSN: EVL_Elgost105 RIP Dust514 05/02/14 GG CCP
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 173	Posted - 2014.06.10 12:34:00 - [7] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Buff Splash to 1.5 , 1.75, 2.0 Buff Direct Damage to 250, 275, 300 Buff Splash to 150, 175, 200 Never ever touch the ROF. NEVER AGAIN. Apart from that, these changes will suffice. Splash makes it a bit easier to use, but the real buff is in direct damage. With Explosive damage buff and proficiency, you can deal ~405 damage a shot to armor. Enough to make any Armor tanker rue the day he met you. Yeah i agree with you but I think it should have a 2-3m splash radius and the damage you showed. maybe a little more for splash. These numbers might be higher than the original flay lock but i dunno. 2.5m splash radius. 150, 200, 250 splash damage. 250, 300, 350 direct damage. 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 23mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
Denchlad 7 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 306	Posted - 2014.06.10 12:49:00 - [8] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: Buff Splash to 1.5 , 1.75, 2.0 Buff Direct Damage to 250, 275, 300 Buff Splash to 150, 175, 200 Never ever touch the ROF. NEVER AGAIN. Apart from that, these changes will suffice. Splash makes it a bit easier to use, but the real buff is in direct damage. With Explosive damage buff and proficiency, you can deal ~405 damage a shot to armor. Enough to make any Armor tanker rue the day he met you. That would be adequate. Bringing back the glory days I will be the only player to Prototype every single god damn weapon before Dust dies. I swear to it.
Ghost Kaisar The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5172	Posted - 2014.06.10 13:16:00 - [9] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Buff Splash to 1.5 , 1.75, 2.0 Buff Direct Damage to 250, 275, 300 Buff Splash to 150, 175, 200 Never ever touch the ROF. NEVER AGAIN. Apart from that, these changes will suffice. Splash makes it a bit easier to use, but the real buff is in direct damage. With Explosive damage buff and proficiency, you can deal ~405 damage a shot to armor. Enough to make any Armor tanker rue the day he met you. Yeah i agree with you but I think it should have a 2-3m splash radius and the damage you showed. maybe a little more for splash. These numbers might be higher than the original flay lock but i dunno. 2.5m splash radius. 150, 200, 250 splash damage. 250, 300, 350 direct damage. You HAVE to make sure that splash is kept low. If you don't it just gets spammed. 200 is perfect, it means that to kill the average dropsuit, you have to land three splash shots, which is the full clip. But the real POWER of the flaylock needs to be in direct hits. I actually like the higher numbers you have posted. If people start complaining about how these "Direct Shots" are OP, I might quit Dust. Direct shots are insanely hard to pull of at ANY distance. Headed to Destiny, To Hell with CCP PSN: EVL_Elgost105 RIP Dust514 05/02/14 GG CCP
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 173	Posted - 2014.06.10 21:05:00 - [10] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: PLAYSTTION wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: Buff Splash to 1.5 , 1.75, 2.0 Buff Direct Damage to 250, 275, 300 Buff Splash to 150, 175, 200 Never ever touch the ROF. NEVER AGAIN. Apart from that, these changes will suffice. Splash makes it a bit easier to use, but the real buff is in direct damage. With Explosive damage buff and proficiency, you can deal ~405 damage a shot to armor. Enough to make any Armor tanker rue the day he met you. Yeah i agree with you but I think it should have a 2-3m splash radius and the damage you showed. maybe a little more for splash. These numbers might be higher than the original flay lock but i dunno. 2.5m splash radius. 150, 200, 250 splash damage. 250, 300, 350 direct damage. You HAVE to make sure that splash is kept low. If you don't it just gets spammed. 200 is perfect, it means that to kill the average dropsuit, you have to land three splash shots, which is the full clip. But the real POWER of the flaylock needs to be in direct hits. I actually like the higher numbers you have posted. If people start complaining about how these "Direct Shots" are OP, I might quit Dust. Direct shots are insanely hard to pull of at ANY distance. Yes i just looked at the stats in game and I think 200 does fit, along with the 150,175,200 progression. I think the problem with the flay lock right now is the splash radius. With the controller, the flay lock is hard to aim at the feet with the tight 1.5m radius and the time it takes for the missile to travel could let the target run away and dodge the small radius. with a slight buff to splash and doubling the radius or just a little lower will make it much more viable. And the direct hit damage being way higher than splay still adds the need for skill that CCP wants this gun to have. 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 23mil sp R.I.P Dust 514

PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 173	Posted - 2014.06.10 21:41:00 - [11] - Quote Numbers so far: Splash Radius 3m Splash Damage 150, 175, 200 Direct damage 250, 300, 350 Ill look into and try out the other variants of the flay lock and purpose new numbers for them later 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 23mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 177	Posted - 2014.06.11 22:31:00 - [12] - Quote Bump, Bump, can we get some conversation on the splash radius and some Dev thoughts??? 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 23mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 403	Posted - 2014.06.12 00:40:00 - [13] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: Numbers so far: Splash Radius 3m Splash Damage 150, 175, 200 Direct damage 250, 300, 350 Ill look into and try out the other variants of the flay lock and purpose new numbers for them later seems about right 26-2 ambush with militia minmitar heavy, no relevant skills 9-3 proto minmitar scout Scount OP nurf it to grownd
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 179	Posted - 2014.06.12 11:52:00 - [14] - Quote so...anyone else? 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 23mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 3690	Posted - 2014.06.12 19:20:00 - [15] - Quote Can you post the pre nerf number, the current numbers, and your proposed numbers for easy comparison? Hand/Eye coordination cannot be taught. For everything else there is the Learning Coalition.
Boot Booter Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 568	Posted - 2014.06.12 19:36:00 - [16] - Quote I provided a buff with spreadsheet included here SMG Specialist
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 465	Posted - 2014.06.12 20:11:00 - [17] - Quote How about we turn it into a sidearm AV option (or create an AV variant at least)? That would give the Flaylock a new lease of life and provide infantry with additional access to AV weaponry: it'd likely require multiple AV-Locks to kill a fully kitted out HAV, but it would be a way to apply additional damage without sacrificing infantry-on-infantry power.
Dexter307 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar 1596	Posted - 2014.06.12 21:05:00 - [18] - Quote Im thinking 1.5m/1.75m/2m splash 175/183.75/192.5 splash damage 250/262.5/275 direct damage
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14447	Posted - 2014.06.12 21:23:00 - [19] - Quote I have no problem with it having massive direct hit damage. Buffing that loads would be the way to go. Suggesting it should be more powerful on splash (and have a larger radius) than the old days is completely stupid, though. That was a time where people used the things as main weapons on logis in PC because they could just splat anyone with it while barely aiming. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 179	Posted - 2014.06.12 22:10:00 - [20] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: How about we turn it into a sidearm AV option (or create an AV variant at least)? That would give the Flaylock a new lease of life and provide infantry with additional access to AV weaponry: it'd likely require multiple AV-Locks to kill a fully kitted out HAV, but it would be a way to apply additional damage without sacrificing infantry-on-infantry power. Its pretty good on vehicles already. Flux or plasma cannon a cal LAV and then Flay lock it up 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 23mil sp R.I.P Dust 514

PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 179	Posted - 2014.06.12 22:12:00 - [21] - Quote Anyone have the old flay lock numbers? 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 24mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 179	Posted - 2014.06.12 22:37:00 - [22] - Quote Aha! i got some of the original numbers. Based on these and my memories of back then I now suggest, un-nerfing it and seeing how it works. BUT I would not announce this. I would let the regular flay lock users (Like me) notice the difference. 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 24mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 179	Posted - 2014.06.13 00:32:00 - [23] - Quote Any thoughts? Devs is a buff even a possibility? 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 24mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
Xmar Handfelid Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 25	Posted - 2014.06.13 16:11:00 - [24] - Quote the slash damage would have to be resonable. "If you thought my vizsam lazer rifle wasn`t enough just look at my scrambler rifle on my commando." -Xmar Handfeild
Boot Booter Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 569	Posted - 2014.06.13 16:14:00 - [25] - Quote It might come in the next hotfix...hopefully. SMG Specialist
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 184	Posted - 2014.06.14 13:55:00 - [26] - Quote How about Dexters splash damage idea this my splash radius idea and high direct hit? splash damage 175, 183.75, 192.5 splash radius 2.5m direct damage 250, 300, 350 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 24mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
Demon-Venom Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.06.14 14:52:00 - [27] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: Thats right. Read the title i think this is long overdue. I suggest a huge radius buff and a 50hp or more damage buff. Ill check the stats and write a more detailed suggestion. Please put your suggestions. No. This will cause chaos again do you know why they nerfed it? It was the best sidearm it was too OP
Egonz4 339	Posted - 2014.06.14 20:41:00 - [28] - Quote PLAYSTTION wrote: Thats right. Read the title i think this is long overdue. I suggest a huge radius buff and a 50hp or more damage buff. Ill check the stats and write a more detailed suggestion. Please put your suggestions. They do know it needs a buff.....but logibro said not in bravo....so hopefully in charlie or delta....keep our fingers crossed fellow flaylockers self proclaimed - Master of The Flaylock
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 185	Posted - 2014.06.15 13:36:00 - [29] - Quote Demon-Venom wrote: PLAYSTTION wrote: Thats right. Read the title i think this is long overdue. I suggest a huge radius buff and a 50hp or more damage buff. Ill check the stats and write a more detailed suggestion. Please put your suggestions. No. This will cause chaos again do you know why they nerfed it? It was the best sidearm it was too OP It was only OP when everyone was using it in August 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 24mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 200	Posted - 2014.08.18 12:36:00 - [30] - Quote bump 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 26mil sp R.I.P Dust 514

PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 200	Posted - 2014.08.18 12:37:00 - [31] - Quote bump 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 26mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
PLAYSTTION GamersForChrist 200	Posted - 2014.08.18 12:41:00 - [32] - Quote My Suggested numbers, Splash Damage, 175/185/200 Splash radius, 3m Direct Damage, 250, 300, 350 44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7) Open Beta Vet 26mil sp R.I.P Dust 514
jace silencerww Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 30	Posted - 2014.08.18 19:43:00 - [33] - Quote I know a bunch of people who use it and they are deadly with it and it was over power before. but maybe a 10% buff to radius & 5% damage buff at the very most.


Pages: 1 2 :: [one page]