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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.06.07 08:11:00 -
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Was the HMG buffed somehow to make it appear it has longer range? It's not by much - but it seems i'm hitting people almost as hard from distances as if they were up close.
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I-Shayz-I
I-----I
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Posted - 2014.06.07 09:43:00 -
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Have you checked the efficiency rating to see if it stays at 100% past 30 meters?
The only thing they changed was the removal of the stunlock, which should make it feel like you're doing less damage...
idk, I saw some guy the other day go 45/10 with a C-I standard sentinel and an MH-82. Every time I tried getting close to him in my proto amarr sentinel I would die before I could even return fire from around 30-40 meters...so I have no idea what's going on.
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Baal Omniscient
L.O.T.I.S.
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Posted - 2014.06.07 11:13:00 -
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I've noticed the same actually. Maybe 30m in game is further away than you imagine when you think of it in your head. I get insta-popped by HMG's all the time and go "wtf, from all the way over there???", then see 30ish meters on the death report and confusion ensues.
Edit: Also noticed the same while using one.
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Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.07 11:15:00 -
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As a full time heavy
No. If so, not significant. In the slightest.
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CCP Rattati
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.07 11:33:00 -
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No
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
1073
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Posted - 2014.06.07 11:50:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:As a full time heavy
No. If so, not significant. In the slightest.
/sigh with posts like this no one can take anything you say seriously.
"No nothing has changed. But if it did because I can't tell and don't want to be wrong, then it'll be a slight difference".
It either did change, and regardless of the difference, be noticeable. Or it didn't change at all.
In this case the answer is no. The range hasn't increased. |
ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
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Posted - 2014.06.07 12:08:00 -
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HMG is powerful, I hate running into it but its fine. Working as intended. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
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Posted - 2014.06.07 14:50:00 -
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My squishy Scout routinely dies to HMG fire.
* Totally expect to get smashed at 0-20 meters.
* Somewhat irritating to die at 20-30 meters.
* Dying > 30 meters ... a problem, IMHO.
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Heimdallr69
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Posted - 2014.06.07 15:13:00 -
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Hey what are your plans for assaults? I heard you guys were looking into fixing them.
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jaksol JAK darnson
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.07 16:15:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:I've noticed the same actually. Maybe 30m in game is further away than you imagine when you think of it in your head. I get insta-popped by HMG's all the time and go "wtf, from all the way over there???", then see 30ish meters on the death report and confusion ensues.
Edit: Also noticed the same while using one.
the burst seem to work just the same as before but i believe that HMGS received a all around buff i mean i drive my tank past 3 of them with half shields and they just shred me
thou that might have just been a glitch........ 3 times in one day......... possably
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.06.07 16:23:00 -
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There are two explanations here after doing some testing (Efficinacy rating was the same since 2 weeks ago btw, so no range increase)
1) Everyone else has less HP and aren't adapting to the hot fix yet, making HMG appear more powerful then it is vs scout spam.
2) CCP are terrible programmers and accidentally, again, trying to fix something broke something else.
My guess is that the bullet fall-out damage that gives reduced damage at range was messed with. HMG probably does closer to full damage at range then it used too.
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Soreconyr
Rise Of Old Dudes
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Posted - 2014.06.07 16:31:00 -
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Happy to test this out...
Will report back with Assault, Burst, and Standard HMG findings, SoonGäó. |
jaksol JAK darnson
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.07 16:33:00 -
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Soreconyr wrote:Happy to test this out...
Will report back with Assault, Burst, and Standard HMG findings, SoonGäó.
thx
though the burst will lose to a plain hmg every time even thou it has higher rate of fire and cost more dos'nt make since
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Everything Dies
Inner.Hell
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Posted - 2014.06.07 16:36:00 -
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jaksol JAK darnson wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:I've noticed the same actually. Maybe 30m in game is further away than you imagine when you think of it in your head. I get insta-popped by HMG's all the time and go "wtf, from all the way over there???", then see 30ish meters on the death report and confusion ensues.
Edit: Also noticed the same while using one. the burst seem to work just the same as before but i believe that HMGS received a all around buff i mean i drive my tank past 3 of them with half shields and they just shred me thou that might have just been a glitch........ 3 times in one day......... possably
I believe CCP mentioned that vehicle damage from HMGs were being tweaked to make them more effective, particularly against LAVs. Haven't had any tank/HMG experience as of yet...
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.06.07 16:37:00 -
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Everything Dies wrote:jaksol JAK darnson wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:I've noticed the same actually. Maybe 30m in game is further away than you imagine when you think of it in your head. I get insta-popped by HMG's all the time and go "wtf, from all the way over there???", then see 30ish meters on the death report and confusion ensues.
Edit: Also noticed the same while using one. the burst seem to work just the same as before but i believe that HMGS received a all around buff i mean i drive my tank past 3 of them with half shields and they just shred me thou that might have just been a glitch........ 3 times in one day......... possably I believe CCP mentioned that vehicle damage from HMGs were being tweaked to make them more effective, particularly against LAVs. Haven't had any tank/HMG experience as of yet...
There was a damage increase for HMG vs vehicles.
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Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
552
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Posted - 2014.06.07 16:45:00 -
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SoTa PoP wrote:Everything Dies wrote:jaksol JAK darnson wrote:Baal Omniscient wrote:I've noticed the same actually. Maybe 30m in game is further away than you imagine when you think of it in your head. I get insta-popped by HMG's all the time and go "wtf, from all the way over there???", then see 30ish meters on the death report and confusion ensues.
Edit: Also noticed the same while using one. the burst seem to work just the same as before but i believe that HMGS received a all around buff i mean i drive my tank past 3 of them with half shields and they just shred me thou that might have just been a glitch........ 3 times in one day......... possably I believe CCP mentioned that vehicle damage from HMGs were being tweaked to make them more effective, particularly against LAVs. Haven't had any tank/HMG experience as of yet... There was a damage increase for HMG vs vehicles.
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
7962
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Posted - 2014.06.07 17:26:00 -
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Personally I'm thinking it's more people switching to either lower tier plates or ferroscales after the armour plate changes. I will go and double check the numbers for the HMG though just to be sure, but the general HP decrease would be what my money would be on.
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pagl1u M
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
876
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Posted - 2014.06.07 18:48:00 -
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It is just that HMG is so OP it destroy everyone even at 40+ metres...
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Vitharr Foebane
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
1295
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Posted - 2014.06.07 18:53:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:It is just that HMG is so OP it destroy everyone even at 40+ metres...
Try to do something besides standing there like an idiot and you find that you almost never die at those ranges to an HMG unless you have like 5 hp
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pagl1u M
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.07 18:56:00 -
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Vitharr Foebane wrote:pagl1u M wrote:It is just that HMG is so OP it destroy everyone even at 40+ metres... Try to do something besides standing there like an idiot and you find that you almost never die at those ranges to an HMG unless you have like 5 hp
Ahahahaha sure.... Are you really saying it isnt OP?? It has double the dps of every over weapon while being the easiest to use, you just have to presso R1 and it does everything else.....
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SoTa PoP
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.06.07 19:01:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:pagl1u M wrote:It is just that HMG is so OP it destroy everyone even at 40+ metres... Try to do something besides standing there like an idiot and you find that you almost never die at those ranges to an HMG unless you have like 5 hp Ahahahaha sure.... Are you really saying it isnt OP?? It has double the dps of every over weapon while being the easiest to use, you just have to presso R1 and it does everything else.....
Please, stop posting. If it was really as OP as you say why are heavies never on top of leaderboards in PC????
Or even have highest kills???
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F0X-TR0T
Company of Marcher Lords
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.06.07 19:21:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Have you checked the efficiency rating to see if it stays at 100% past 30 meters? I've been too busy messing around with the PLC to actually pull out my heavy much post-alpha lol http://youtu.be/vVXnIb1zh5Ahttp://youtu.be/JS8LAlWrKEEThe only thing they changed was the removal of the stunlock, which should make it feel like you're doing less damage...but ? idk, I saw some guy the other day go 45/10 with a C-I standard sentinel and an MH-82. Every time I tried getting close to him in my proto amarr sentinel I would die before I could even return fire from around 30-40 meters...so I have no idea what's going on.
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Duran Lex
Fraternity of St. Venefice
Amarr Empire
1076
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Posted - 2014.06.07 19:24:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:Vitharr Foebane wrote:pagl1u M wrote:It is just that HMG is so OP it destroy everyone even at 40+ metres... Try to do something besides standing there like an idiot and you find that you almost never die at those ranges to an HMG unless you have like 5 hp Ahahahaha sure.... Are you really saying it isnt OP?? It has double the dps of every over weapon while being the easiest to use, you just have to presso R1 and it does everything else.....
If you think it's OP now, a shame you weren't around when it could easily shred people 70-80 yards out due to the sharpshooter skill.
It's a walk in the park now.
HMG is probably the only weapon I can currently say is in the right spot.
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I-Shayz-I
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Posted - 2014.06.07 19:33:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Personally I'm thinking it's more people switching to either lower tier plates or ferroscales after the armour plate changes and because of that it feels like you're doing more damage at range (close range you were killing them pretty quickly anyway, so you don't feel it as much there). I will go and double check the numbers for the HMG though just to be sure, but the general HP decrease would be what my money would be on.
Could also be players using armor repairers instead of plates.
That's where most of my HP went anyways.
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D4GG3R
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.06.07 19:36:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:Personally I'm thinking it's more people switching to either lower tier plates or ferroscales after the armour plate changes and because of that it feels like you're doing more damage at range (close range you were killing them pretty quickly anyway, so you don't feel it as much there). I will go and double check the numbers for the HMG though just to be sure, but the general HP decrease would be what my money would be on. Could also be players using armor repairers instead of plates. That's where most of my HP went anyways.
Or the fact that scouts have a shorter cloak time. you might be seeing more flimsy scouts uncloaked
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Smoky Fingers
Red Star.
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.06.07 19:40:00 -
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Here's My theory you space pirates. The HMG spread was so bad at 30 m pre alpha, that stunlock worked against it. Now that its gone, more movement = more random hmg spread to run into 
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Espartoi
Orkz Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.07 20:12:00 -
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But maybe is the Assault variant of the HMG....
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Grimmiers
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Posted - 2014.06.07 20:16:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:Have you checked the efficiency rating to see if it stays at 100% past 30 meters? I've been too busy messing around with the PLC to actually pull out my heavy much post-alpha lol http://youtu.be/vVXnIb1zh5Ahttp://youtu.be/JS8LAlWrKEEThe only thing they changed was the removal of the stunlock, which should make it feel like you're doing less damage...but ? idk, I saw some guy the other day go 45/10 with a C-I standard sentinel and an MH-82. Every time I tried getting close to him in my proto amarr sentinel I would die before I could even return fire from around 30-40 meters...so I have no idea what's going on.
I was a witness to that unfortunately. I swear I thought he killed me with six kin burst before the kill feed updated.
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KEROSIINI-TERO
The Rainbow Effect
1061
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Posted - 2014.06.07 22:08:00 -
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I had one long range death experience by normal HMG.
But that tells us nothing.
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