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Egonz4
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Posted - 2014.06.06 16:17:00 -
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Good job ccp on alpha...so far everything is balanced....for beta these are some of the changes I feel need to happen:
Weapons:
Assualt Variants of the new pistols (if possible...but I don't think so)
Flaylock buff (you know this needs to happen)
Vehicles:
Rail gun tanks still seem to have to much damage
Dropships die when they barely touch the mcc or even sometimes supply depots
Other:
Corp battles please!!!!!!!!!!!
Thoughts?...
self proclaimed - Master of The Flaylock
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
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Posted - 2014.06.06 17:10:00 -
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The flay lock is viable as is, people just need to practice with it.
Edit: corp battles would be awesome |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
2751
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Posted - 2014.06.06 17:14:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:The flay lock is viable as is, people just need to practice with it.
Edit: corp battles would be awesome
just like the ion pistol 
supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
Dirt Nap Squad.
9162
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Posted - 2014.06.06 17:18:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:The flay lock is viable as is, people just need to practice with it.
Edit: corp battles would be awesome
So then you'd be willing to take it into a PC match?
Amarrians would prefer you be faithful. I'd rather you be logical.
Your friendly neighborhood Swarm Scrub.
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Pvt Numnutz
Watchdoge Explosives
1397
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Posted - 2014.06.06 17:30:00 -
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A fix to dropship collision damage would be nice |
Joel II X
Dah Gods O Bacon
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Posted - 2014.06.06 17:59:00 -
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Other pistols meaning Bolt Pistol? Because the Ion is already supposed to be the assault variant. That's why it has a "large" RoF. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.06.06 18:49:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:The flay lock is viable as is, people just need to practice with it.
Edit: corp battles would be awesome So then you'd be willing to take it into a PC match?
Yep.
... as an equipment clearer. Pretty much the only thing it's okay at.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
794
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Posted - 2014.06.06 18:53:00 -
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Swarms need fixing.
Dropship collision damage needs fixing.
Flaylock, I don't have personal experience but widely considered to need buffing, probably similar in degree to the MD changes.
Sniper rifles could use some tweaking.
Proxy mines need buff and some changes.
Installations could be changed and health buffed.
Those are probably the ones I want to see on the short list.
Because, that's why.
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
794
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Posted - 2014.06.06 18:56:00 -
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Oh, and yes, good job on HF Alpha, managed to fix several things, increase fitting options and didn't break anything or drastically shift the balance and lots of communication. Well done.
Because, that's why.
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Egonz4
325
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Posted - 2014.06.06 20:04:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:The flay lock is viable as is, people just need to practice with it.
Edit: corp battles would be awesome
False I have mastered it.....two proto rounds can't kill a militia heavy
self proclaimed - Master of The Flaylock
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PLAYSTTION
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
163
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Posted - 2014.06.06 20:05:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:The flay lock is viable as is, people just need to practice with it.
Edit: corp battles would be awesome
CEOPyrex is the best flay locker I know of and with high proficiency and dual flay locks he makes it look..meh.
It needs a buff and everyone knows it.
44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7)
Open Beta Vet 23mil sp
R.I.P Dust 514
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PLAYSTTION
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
163
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Posted - 2014.06.06 20:06:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:The flay lock is viable as is, people just need to practice with it.
Edit: corp battles would be awesome
CEOPyrex is the best flay locker I know of and with high proficiency and dual flay locks he makes it look..meh.
It needs a buff and everyone knows it.
44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7)
Open Beta Vet 23mil sp
R.I.P Dust 514
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PLAYSTTION
Capital Acquisitions LLC
General Tso's Alliance
163
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Posted - 2014.06.06 20:07:00 -
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oops put 2 posts^
44/4 in a BPO Scout (1.8) 40/5 in a Proto Assault (1.7)
Open Beta Vet 23mil sp
R.I.P Dust 514
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
1820
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Posted - 2014.06.06 20:09:00 -
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Everything is not balanced.
Assaults and Minjas need love.
Assaults need it first (should have been the Alpha fix IMHO).
Tanks are still OP (gamma/charlie or whatever comes after beta, unless it can be lumped in with beta).
The REAL Internet King
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Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
Lokun Listamenn
3297
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Posted - 2014.06.06 20:38:00 -
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Don't we have a assault ScP?
The Proto flaylock is great, I just think they need to buff the std and adv versions splash radius slightly.
Rails need to not be able to kill infantry so easily, don't know how they could fix that.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Byozuma Kegawa
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
274
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Posted - 2014.06.06 20:47:00 -
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I don't get this feeling about tanks. I mean, they're tanks. They're supposed to be hard to kill with grenades, a little less tough against forge guns and not so good against swarms (damage resistances permitting). And their weapons are meant to be AV, meaning infantry hit by it will have a future as red paint. This is the truth of tanks. I get it, and I don't even drive tanks! Not one SP spent on them! If anything, tanks need to be balanced against tanks, not against infantry. We're just the ants under their boots. |
The Infected One
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
1348
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Posted - 2014.06.06 21:12:00 -
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All the basic heavy frames except Amarr have the same CPU and PG as their STD level suit. Hopefully this will be fixed.
I am here to ask you one question, and one question only: EXPLOSIONS?
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2014.06.06 21:17:00 -
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Egonz4 wrote:
Weapons:
Assault Variants of the new pistols (if possible...but I don't think so)
Thoughts?...
I say no to this.
Why assault variants? Why not a burst flaylock or a breach Ion pistol or a tactical Bolt pistol?
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
543
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Posted - 2014.06.06 23:23:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:The flay lock is viable as is, people just need to practice with it.
Edit: corp battles would be awesome just like the ion pistol
Also fine. I use that on my gallente assault and it's been quite useful. Some scouts have had success running nothing but two ion pistols. I think the consensus (at least as far as I've gathered from forums) that the ion pistol is trash is unwarranted. I don't care if people want to tell me the scrambler pistol is better in every way, there are still many of us that enjoy using the ion pistol successfully.
Same goes with the flaylock. |
Toby Flenderson
research lab
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Posted - 2014.06.06 23:27:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:The flay lock is viable as is, people just need to practice with it.
Edit: corp battles would be awesome So then you'd be willing to take it into a PC match?
I don't play PC. Even if I did, I wouldn't judge weapons based on how effective they are in PC. I play this game to have fun. I can do much better with an AR than I can with a PLC but that doesn't mean that I think the PLC is a bad weapon. I'm sure the PLC doesn't appear in PC too often either, but it doesn't mean it needs to be buffed to the level of something as competitive as the ACR. I know this is not what you're implying, I'm just saying that I probably wouldn't feel on par with anyone in PC unless I was using an ACR. Clearly there are very good weapons in this game and average weapons. Judging them by PC standards basically means judge it against the most advantageous choice existing in the game. |
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TRA1LBLAZERS
552
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Posted - 2014.06.06 23:28:00 -
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Byozuma Kegawa wrote:I don't get this feeling about tanks. I mean, they're tanks. They're supposed to be hard to kill with grenades, a little less tough against forge guns and not so good against swarms (damage resistances permitting). And their weapons are meant to be AV, meaning infantry hit by it will have a future as red paint. This is the truth of tanks. I get it, and I don't even drive tanks! Not one SP spent on them! If anything, tanks need to be balanced against tanks, not against infantry. We're just the ants under their boots.
nice to see spkr made an alt
Dedicated heavy through the hard times, still supporter of A FULL 1.8 respec and MOAR HEAVY WEAPONS!
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Egonz4
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Posted - 2014.06.06 23:34:00 -
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Spademan wrote:Egonz4 wrote:
Weapons:
Assault Variants of the new pistols (if possible...but I don't think so)
Thoughts?...
I say no to this. Why assault variants? Why not a burst flaylock or a breach Ion pistol or a tactical Bolt pistol?
Yes I should've specified ....I meant just different vatants. A burst Flaylock would be awesome
self proclaimed - Master of The Flaylock
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Egonz4
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Posted - 2014.06.06 23:36:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:Atiim wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:The flay lock is viable as is, people just need to practice with it.
Edit: corp battles would be awesome So then you'd be willing to take it into a PC match? I don't play PC. Even if I did, I wouldn't judge weapons based on how effective they are in PC. I play this game to have fun. I can do much better with an AR than I can with a PLC but that doesn't mean that I think the PLC is a bad weapon. I'm sure the PLC doesn't appear in PC too often either, but it doesn't mean it needs to be buffed to the level of something as competitive as the ACR. I know this is not what you're implying, I'm just saying that I probably wouldn't feel on par with anyone in PC unless I was using an ACR. Clearly there are very good weapons in this game and average weapons. Judging them by PC standards basically means judge it against the most advantageous choice existing in the game.
True...but the thing is it shouldnt take two rounds of any weapon just to kill an infantry
self proclaimed - Master of The Flaylock
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
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Posted - 2014.06.07 14:36:00 -
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Egonz4 wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:Atiim wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:The flay lock is viable as is, people just need to practice with it.
Edit: corp battles would be awesome So then you'd be willing to take it into a PC match? I don't play PC. Even if I did, I wouldn't judge weapons based on how effective they are in PC. I play this game to have fun. I can do much better with an AR than I can with a PLC but that doesn't mean that I think the PLC is a bad weapon. I'm sure the PLC doesn't appear in PC too often either, but it doesn't mean it needs to be buffed to the level of something as competitive as the ACR. I know this is not what you're implying, I'm just saying that I probably wouldn't feel on par with anyone in PC unless I was using an ACR. Clearly there are very good weapons in this game and average weapons. Judging them by PC standards basically means judge it against the most advantageous choice existing in the game. True...but the thing is it shouldnt take two rounds of any weapon just to kill an infantry
That sounds fair but I think this weapon is best used as a clean up weapon. It's a backup in my arsenal and when I run out of SMG ammo it can clean up armor very quickly.
My problem with buffing the flay lock is that I can already use it effectively. It was my least favorite thin about this game when t was easy to use because it is totally a bailout weapon. You can sneak up on someone and they could just twist and jump and empy the clip on you and it would be over. Now it's harder to do that but the risk of missing your tree shots and being dead in the water is balanced right now by finishing off an enemy quickly after shields are down.
I'd say it's just a different type of weapon that requires a different approach to use effectively. People used to the scrambler pistol/SMG will have to adjust or be disappointed. But this doesn't mean that the weapon doesn't have its purpose. I don't think it should be buffed to be able to accomplish what a scrambler pistol currently does, for example |
Egonz4
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Posted - 2014.06.07 16:11:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:Egonz4 wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:Atiim wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:The flay lock is viable as is, people just need to practice with it.
Edit: corp battles would be awesome So then you'd be willing to take it into a PC match? I don't play PC. Even if I did, I wouldn't judge weapons based on how effective they are in PC. I play this game to have fun. I can do much better with an AR than I can with a PLC but that doesn't mean that I think the PLC is a bad weapon. I'm sure the PLC doesn't appear in PC too often either, but it doesn't mean it needs to be buffed to the level of something as competitive as the ACR. I know this is not what you're implying, I'm just saying that I probably wouldn't feel on par with anyone in PC unless I was using an ACR. Clearly there are very good weapons in this game and average weapons. Judging them by PC standards basically means judge it against the most advantageous choice existing in the game. True...but the thing is it shouldnt take two rounds of any weapon just to kill an infantry That sounds fair but I think this weapon is best used as a clean up weapon. It's a backup in my arsenal and when I run out of SMG ammo it can clean up armor very quickly. My problem with buffing the flay lock is that I can already use it effectively. It was my least favorite thin about this game when t was easy to use because it is totally a bailout weapon. You can sneak up on someone and they could just twist and jump and empy the clip on you and it would be over. Now it's harder to do that but the risk of missing your tree shots and being dead in the water is balanced right now by finishing off an enemy quickly after shields are down. I'd say it's just a different type of weapon that requires a different approach to use effectively. People used to the scrambler pistol/SMG will have to adjust or be disappointed. But this doesn't mean that the weapon doesn't have its purpose. I don't think it should be buffed to be able to accomplish what a scrambler pistol currently does, for example
I do see your point.....it seems like now cuz not a lot of people use it, it makes u proud and its the best feeling when someone sees u using a Flaylock and they come at you cuz its a Flaylock and they end up dying......but I want a slight buff just because I can rule the world when it does get buffed
self proclaimed - Master of The Flaylock
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